misfire on #2 and # 5
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Nope, I cleaned the connections with that electical spray. I thought maybe a coil when this all started. I swapped 3 and 5 around. I got the same code. #2 and #5 misfire.
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I'll check the connector out in the morning. I'm guessing the wire is coming out of the wiring harness. I guess I can follow it down as far as I can to see if it minght be broken somewhere along the way. I would think it would be kind of hard to tell though. I'm up for anyhting though. Thanks
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Hey trf4x4:
I would also take a good look at the coil paks, just to make sure they are OK. If you haven't already done so, I would check the primary and secondary resistance of the paks with a simple ohmmeter. (Switching the 3 and 5 paks like you did was good, but this is a more definitive test).
You mentioned cleaning the contacts between the wiring harness and coilpak, but did you also clean the contact area on the pak where the spark plug wire connects? The metal in the area should be shiny. (If it is corroded, it will take more than just spray contact cleaner to clean it up).
You also mentioned installing new NGK plug wires. Your old wires had clips on them that you probably removed and put on the new wires. The clips for coilpaks 3 and 5 are just a little different than the clip for coilpak 1--did you replace the clips correctly?
Finally, when you reinstalled the plugs, wires and coilpaks, did you use enough dielectic grease?
Anyway, these are some of the things that are quick and easy to check. btw, I was knocking my head for several months with misfires--all caused by me not using enough dielectric grease, which resulted in corrosion and poor contact between the coilpaks and the plug wires. Good luck, John
I would also take a good look at the coil paks, just to make sure they are OK. If you haven't already done so, I would check the primary and secondary resistance of the paks with a simple ohmmeter. (Switching the 3 and 5 paks like you did was good, but this is a more definitive test).
You mentioned cleaning the contacts between the wiring harness and coilpak, but did you also clean the contact area on the pak where the spark plug wire connects? The metal in the area should be shiny. (If it is corroded, it will take more than just spray contact cleaner to clean it up).
You also mentioned installing new NGK plug wires. Your old wires had clips on them that you probably removed and put on the new wires. The clips for coilpaks 3 and 5 are just a little different than the clip for coilpak 1--did you replace the clips correctly?
Finally, when you reinstalled the plugs, wires and coilpaks, did you use enough dielectic grease?
Anyway, these are some of the things that are quick and easy to check. btw, I was knocking my head for several months with misfires--all caused by me not using enough dielectric grease, which resulted in corrosion and poor contact between the coilpaks and the plug wires. Good luck, John
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Thanks John, Idid just about everything you mentioned above. I did'nt use any dielectric grease though. All I used was a little antiseize on the plugs. Is the dielectric grease used on all electrical connections? Thanks for the help. Tommy
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Well Tommy, I'm just a weekend mechanic at best, but here's what worked for me. On the 3.4 V6, I placed dielectric grease on a total of 9 areas:
If anyone knows a better method, chime in, cuz I got alot of conflicting info when I googled for methods to apply the grease. Anyway, its what worked for me, so good luck. John
- The ends of the plug wires, at the connections to plugs 2, 4 and 6.
- The ends of the plug wires, at the connections to coilpaks 1, 3, and 5.
- On the coilpaks, at their connections to plugs 1, 3, and 5.
If anyone knows a better method, chime in, cuz I got alot of conflicting info when I googled for methods to apply the grease. Anyway, its what worked for me, so good luck. John
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Ok John, Thanks. I'm fixin to head into town and pick up some of that grease. At this point, I'm up for anything. I'll let you know how it goes. Tommy
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make sure you dont get any of that anti-seize on the electrode of the plug. Also check connector pin fit on the connector to the coil pack, try wiggling around the wires with the truck running and see if you can get it to misfire.
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I went yesterday and bought some them $77 wires from the stealership. I figured even though I allready had the NGK wires on it, I go 100% OEM. I'm still getting the same code. I will try to wiggle the connectors and wires in the morning while it's running. Thanks for the imput. I think I'll find it eventualy. I may be broke by that time, but what can i say. I love driving this truck.
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I thought it was pretty steep my self. At this point I'm willing to try anything. As of right now I have a set of Iridium plugs, a set of NGK dual electrode plug, and a set of wires sitting in my garage. I have Denso plugs and OEM wires in the truck right now.