View Poll Results: Header decision. What do you think?
TRD all the way.
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Edelbrock headers with Toyota gaskets.
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I dont like either of these options, wait for something else to come out.
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Header decision time...TRD vs. Edelbrock
05-09-2003, 07:28 AM
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Header decision time...TRD vs. Edelbrock
Ok guys, its time to start saving my bonuses and OT for headers. I will be installing them myself. Here are the differences I know of:
TRD: Better fit, higher quality, about $1000
Edelbrock: Comparable HP gains to TRD, $350 + $75 for Toyota gaskets.
So, help me out. I am leaning towards Edelbrocks, but am open to any suggestions. I am also open to waiting for other companies who have indicated they may release headers for the 3.4L in the near future.
Thanks guys.
TRD: Better fit, higher quality, about $1000
Edelbrock: Comparable HP gains to TRD, $350 + $75 for Toyota gaskets.
So, help me out. I am leaning towards Edelbrocks, but am open to any suggestions. I am also open to waiting for other companies who have indicated they may release headers for the 3.4L in the near future.
Thanks guys.
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05-09-2003, 07:51 AM
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You might want to check out Stan's Headers:
http://www.stans-headers.com/
He's supposed to be a bit of legend, Cory could probably vouch for him. I've thought about going to him myself whenever I get mine done.
-David
http://www.stans-headers.com/
He's supposed to be a bit of legend, Cory could probably vouch for him. I've thought about going to him myself whenever I get mine done.
-David
05-09-2003, 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by SLC Punk
I know nothing about headers, but if you spend $1,000 for TRD ones, why not just buy a S/C??
I heard that the header install is hell!
I know nothing about headers, but if you spend $1,000 for TRD ones, why not just buy a S/C??
I heard that the header install is hell!
Yeah, I here the install is hell too. But, I have access to a sawzall and a lot of tools, and we carpool. So I can leave the Runner in the garage as long as I want.
Trust me, the SC would be very very cool to have, but it wouldnt be smart for us economically.
05-09-2003, 08:35 AM
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I would get the headers for the exact same reasons you mentioned = cost. As much as a SC would be nice, it does require Premium fuel, maintenance at some point, replacement parts, etc. With the header, I would imagine maintenance would be much, much less, if any.
I did a lot of research and my conclusion was that the TRDs were better b/c of the quality of the Edelbrocks aren't that great. If I can find the word doc where i compiled all the opinions from various threads, ill send it to you.
I believe if you do some hunting, you can get them less than $1000. Maybe around $850-ish w/ shipping. I recall some folks getting theirs for $780-ish + shipping.
I'd say go w/ the TRDs w/ the stock gaskets. Oh, go check on Gadget's webpage. He went w/ the TuRDs.
http://www.gadgetonline.com/exhaust....ust%20Headers:
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I would get the headers for the exact same reasons you mentioned = cost. As much as a SC would be nice, it does require Premium fuel, maintenance at some point, replacement parts, etc. With the header, I would imagine maintenance would be much, much less, if any.
I did a lot of research and my conclusion was that the TRDs were better b/c of the quality of the Edelbrocks aren't that great. If I can find the word doc where i compiled all the opinions from various threads, ill send it to you.
I believe if you do some hunting, you can get them less than $1000. Maybe around $850-ish w/ shipping. I recall some folks getting theirs for $780-ish + shipping.
I'd say go w/ the TRDs w/ the stock gaskets. Oh, go check on Gadget's webpage. He went w/ the TuRDs.
http://www.gadgetonline.com/exhaust....ust%20Headers:
Bob
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05-09-2003, 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by <96 Runner>
Well, mainly because the SC is another $1K. And, I am leaning toward the Edelbrocks anyway.
Yeah, I here the install is hell too. But, I have access to a sawzall and a lot of tools, and we carpool. So I can leave the Runner in the garage as long as I want.
Trust me, the SC would be very very cool to have, but it wouldnt be smart for us economically.
Well, mainly because the SC is another $1K. And, I am leaning toward the Edelbrocks anyway.
Yeah, I here the install is hell too. But, I have access to a sawzall and a lot of tools, and we carpool. So I can leave the Runner in the garage as long as I want.
Trust me, the SC would be very very cool to have, but it wouldnt be smart for us economically.
I am a fan of the TRD stuff so that's where my vote is.
05-09-2003, 09:04 AM
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I just realized that I have 15% off "any one TRD part or accessory" at the dealerships here in AZ. Of course, that means its 15% off of $1200, as they are overpriced to say the least.
Now I am thinking TRD, I like quality.
Now I am thinking TRD, I like quality.
05-09-2003, 09:39 AM
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Best price I found for the TRDs is $715 + shipping from Texas. Let me know if your interested as I still haven't purchased mine yet and maybe they'll give us an even better deal buying 2 sets. (wishful thinking). I will also be getting them ceramic coated by Jet-Hot.
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05-09-2003, 09:59 AM
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05-09-2003, 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by pfdaxe
Best price I found for the TRDs is $715 + shipping from Texas. Let me know if your interested as I still haven't purchased mine yet and maybe they'll give us an even better deal buying 2 sets. (wishful thinking). I will also be getting them ceramic coated by Jet-Hot.
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Best price I found for the TRDs is $715 + shipping from Texas. Let me know if your interested as I still haven't purchased mine yet and maybe they'll give us an even better deal buying 2 sets. (wishful thinking). I will also be getting them ceramic coated by Jet-Hot.
Paul
I will let you know. The only problem is that it is going to take me some time to save up for them. Figure 3 months. I have a friend who works for Toyota here in the Valley, and he claims he can get deals on TRD parts. I will let you know if the deal is significant.
05-09-2003, 10:31 AM
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Let me know what kind of price you get. I'm ready anytime to buy. I've been so busy working I haven't had time to play with my Toy. I have yet to do the ECT mod. I have all the parts but haven't had the time.
05-09-2003, 11:01 AM
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I've been thinking about the ECT mod myself- do you know if its something you have to constantly fiddle with (as the outside temp changes and engine runs warmer or colder?)?
05-09-2003, 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Mad Chemist
I've been thinking about the ECT mod myself- do you know if its something you have to constantly fiddle with (as the outside temp changes and engine runs warmer or colder?)?
I've been thinking about the ECT mod myself- do you know if its something you have to constantly fiddle with (as the outside temp changes and engine runs warmer or colder?)?
05-09-2003, 01:21 PM
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Let me start off by saying I have the Edelbrock's on my 98 and I have examined a set of TRDs at the dealership. Furthermore I am biased because I am a cheap mofo. So now that that's out in the open:
The quality of the TRDs from what I saw was better in the interior welds at the flanges, however, this was only because they were ground after they were welded. So the other interior welds could not be any better because they could not get a grinder on them, just like the Edelbrocks. Also the drill hole for the O2 sensor on the TRDs was just as crappy as the Edelbrocks so there is not a difference there. What this means is if you have a die grinder or a dremel you can fix up your Edelbrocks so that they are better/same than the TRDs in terms of welds and you will have paid less than half as much.
Good luck
The quality of the TRDs from what I saw was better in the interior welds at the flanges, however, this was only because they were ground after they were welded. So the other interior welds could not be any better because they could not get a grinder on them, just like the Edelbrocks. Also the drill hole for the O2 sensor on the TRDs was just as crappy as the Edelbrocks so there is not a difference there. What this means is if you have a die grinder or a dremel you can fix up your Edelbrocks so that they are better/same than the TRDs in terms of welds and you will have paid less than half as much.
Good luck
05-09-2003, 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by Mad Chemist
You might want to check out Stan's Headers:
http://www.stans-headers.com/
He's supposed to be a bit of legend, Cory could probably vouch for him. I've thought about going to him myself whenever I get mine done.
-David
You might want to check out Stan's Headers:
http://www.stans-headers.com/
He's supposed to be a bit of legend, Cory could probably vouch for him. I've thought about going to him myself whenever I get mine done.
-David
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05-09-2003, 01:40 PM
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Downey still makes them for this engine, dude. They are decent headers. They make just as much power as the TRD's. Check here for information and prices.
The ECT mod speeds up the idle actually, rather than slowing it down. It is not affected by outside temp. It's kind of a set and forget mod.
Hope this helps.
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The ECT mod speeds up the idle actually, rather than slowing it down. It is not affected by outside temp. It's kind of a set and forget mod.
Hope this helps.
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05-09-2003, 01:42 PM
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Thanks- it sounds like its easy enough to set to "zero" and run at stock settings, but I was curious if people constantly had to fiddle with knob to get better performance.
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Originally posted by Dr. Zhivago
The ECT mod speeds up the idle actually, rather than slowing it down. It is not affected by outside temp. It's kind of a set and forget mod.
The ECT mod speeds up the idle actually, rather than slowing it down. It is not affected by outside temp. It's kind of a set and forget mod.
Yeah, what he said.
