Going from 3rd gen 3.4 V6 to 1st gen 4 cyl : will I save gas?

Hugo · 09-02-2005, 12:23 PM

I'm probably gonna have to sell my truck due to rising gas prices. I have other debts to clear, and I can't since all my savings go into the oil companies' pockets...

So I'm contemplating getting a 1st gen. What kind of mileage did these get, compared to the 3.4 V6?

Will running 31s hurt a lot? Will I need to re-gear.?

I'm devastated at the idea of selling the 3rd gen.

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bob200587 · 09-02-2005, 12:29 PM

i get between 17-22 mpg, 22RE 5spd with 31s @32psi and 4.10s w/ front hubs unlocked, and drive light on the throttle, I also have a K&N airfilter, and no muffler. I think its decent for a 4x4....I dont know what kind of mileage you're gettting. I'm not sure if i should regear or not....

Lone4runner · 09-02-2005, 12:34 PM

honestly would you really wanna give up your truck for another?? would you really be happy with another truck and is the savings worth it? gas sucks but i bought my truck to play with so its a luxury expense. now its one thing if you said you wanted better gas mileage and then went to a corolla. well hopefully these are questions you thought of.

Hugo · 09-02-2005, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lone4runner

honestly would you really wanna give up your truck for another?? would you really be happy with another truck and is the savings worth it? gas sucks but i bought my truck to play with so its a luxury expense. now its one thing if you said you wanted better gas mileage and then went to a corolla. well hopefully these are questions you thought of.

Yes. I need a truck to haul the kids around, and I want something that will allow me to keep buying home improvement stuff. I also modded my 3rd gen to play off road with it. I would do the same with the 1st gen.

So I need a truck.

It is a luxury expense, yes, but so is my Z3, and I'm not selling that one. Besides, I HAD to pay for a bunch of stuff lately : my home air conditioner broke twice, 50% of my city taxes are unpaid, I had to buy a new shed, my landscaping finally got done but there were 2 000$ of extras, and I bought a lot in Costa Rica. So everything fell on me face at the same time.

Every penny I planned to use for this now vanished as gas. I can't afford it anymore. And I need a 4x4 due to winter here. So a truck is my only option.

99_Runner · 09-02-2005, 01:04 PM

I would say do things to increase the gas milage of the 4Runner that you have. I don't think that a 4cylinder 1st gen is going to get better gas millage. Do a cat-back, an Amsoil air filter, electric fan, and maybe even some headers. Why sell a really nice 4Runner, to just buy another one that you don't even know if it will be as reliable.

If you are going for gas milage, but want all wheel drive then maybe a 4cylinder Rav4 or something that is light like that so the motor doesn't have to work so hard.

Roadtripr · 09-02-2005, 01:06 PM

"Yes. I need a truck to haul the kids around, and I want something that will allow me to keep buying home improvement stuff. I also modded my 3rd gen to play off road with it. I would do the same with the 1st gen."
Then you milage will evt. suck in the 1st gen also. Plus you will spend new money to mod it.

Loose the Samurai. Keep the 3rd gen for play on weekends only. Commute in the Z3.

DavidA · 09-02-2005, 01:11 PM

I get the same gas mileage in my 3.4 as I did on my 22RE. So would not be worth it. If I could I would buy a motorcycle or a Toyota Corolla.

Hugo · 09-02-2005, 01:13 PM

The Samurai is for my gf to use when we go off road. I already commute in the Z3 - which gets mileage just as bad as the 4runner BTW.

99 runner, I already have an Amsoil filter, and I have absolutely no money left for any type of mods. I'll be lucky to be able to buy winter tires - on my credit card, of course.

Roadtripr · 09-02-2005, 02:10 PM

can't she drive with you? Let her drive some of the time?
Don't get to far into dept.

Or more be practical sell the Z3 as this can't get you through winter anyhow and buy a used one later when you can afford it.

jimbo74 · 09-02-2005, 02:45 PM

get an awd subaru....

mileage probably wont be too different to justify buying anotehr truck and selling your current one......

86 TurboSR5 · 09-02-2005, 02:59 PM

86 2wd turbo 5 speed. 22-25city 31+ highway Worth it? Barely tolerable for me. Most vehicles dont do much better I suppose, but they have more comfort.

Lone4runner · 09-02-2005, 03:21 PM

guess my thing is that you already spent the money on your 3rd gen and even if you were a mechanic by trade the money you save if any on gas might go to repair bills and mods. but thats me.

GodwinAustin · 09-02-2005, 03:26 PM

yeah, I think the consensus is that the 5VZE is almost as efficient as a 22r from 1st gens...there are some people on both ends of the spectrum but in general the 3.4 is a pretty efficient engine. You will not be saving much if any by switching, unless your 3.4 is a total dog for whatever reason.

EWAYota · 09-02-2005, 03:36 PM

if you sold the 3rd gen. then bought a 1st and modded it for playing on the weekends, how much ahead are you really gonna be? tires/gears/locker/lift plus the initial price of the purchase and replacing anything that needs to be replaced or rebuilt.

Hugo · 09-02-2005, 06:05 PM

Case closed...

http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=66645

02SE · 09-02-2005, 08:31 PM

FWIW, I doubt you will get any improvement in mileage with a 1st gen, vs. your 3rd gen. That's based on my own experience.

Hugo · 09-02-2005, 09:02 PM

It's ok, I'm selling it anyway. I just won't get a 1st gen.

Bumpin' Yota · 09-02-2005, 09:36 PM

im keeping my 2nd gen. No matter what I will never let her go....however I AM buying a crotch rocket...R6 or gsxr600 or cbr600....dunno yet.

Adam F · 09-02-2005, 09:43 PM

With the money you have selling the 99, get a 1st gen for offroad and a Honda or something that gets 25+ mpg for your daily commute.

Hugo · 09-02-2005, 10:26 PM

No money for that, I'm afraid. I need 4wd for winter (or AWD), so I'll likely get some Honduh CR-Ghey or something until I get more cash.

dragr1 · 09-04-2005, 11:57 AM

Sell the '99, the Sammi, and the Z3 and get a BMW 330IX Wagon-speed, awd, kid hauling, and good mpg.

4-RUNNIN' FREAK · 09-05-2005, 12:32 AM

Keep it all, and get a part time job just to pay for gas.

09-02-2005, 12:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
bob200587 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,853	i get between 17-22 mpg, 22RE 5spd with 31s @32psi and 4.10s w/ front hubs unlocked, and drive light on the throttle, I also have a K&N airfilter, and no muffler. I think its decent for a 4x4....I dont know what kind of mileage you're gettting. I'm not sure if i should regear or not.... __________________ 87 4runner 4x4 SR5 22RE ARB Bull Bar, 31X10.50 Mastercraft M/T's, Stock 4.10 Gears, Flowmaster Muffler, LCE Header AISIN Manual Hubs, Marlin Crawler Sliders 190XXX miles

09-02-2005, 01:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
99_Runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 1,115	I would say do things to increase the gas milage of the 4Runner that you have. I don't think that a 4cylinder 1st gen is going to get better gas millage. Do a cat-back, an Amsoil air filter, electric fan, and maybe even some headers. Why sell a really nice 4Runner, to just buy another one that you don't even know if it will be as reliable. If you are going for gas milage, but want all wheel drive then maybe a 4cylinder Rav4 or something that is light like that so the motor doesn't have to work so hard. __________________ Drew 99 4Runner SR5, auto, 3.4 V6, factory rear locker, 265/75 Yokohama Geolander AT+II Stock for now, but hopefully not for long.

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Roadtripr Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 927	"Yes. I need a truck to haul the kids around, and I want something that will allow me to keep buying home improvement stuff. I also modded my 3rd gen to play off road with it. I would do the same with the 1st gen." Then you milage will evt. suck in the 1st gen also. Plus you will spend new money to mod it. Loose the Samurai. Keep the 3rd gen for play on weekends only. Commute in the Z3. __________________ Carsten -------------------------- 99 4runner SR5 4x4 5spd

09-02-2005, 01:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
DavidA Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 919	I get the same gas mileage in my 3.4 as I did on my 22RE. So would not be worth it. If I could I would buy a motorcycle or a Toyota Corolla. __________________ 2002 Stellar Blue 4Runner Sport Edition Cold Air Intake Magnaflow Exhaust Iridium Sparkplugs Kenwood KDC-MP628 Blaupunkt Separates in all of the doors Two RF P2002 amps Kenwood 12" Subwoofer My baby: Pics

09-02-2005, 01:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hugo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Charlesbourg (Qc) Posts: 181	The Samurai is for my gf to use when we go off road. I already commute in the Z3 - which gets mileage just as bad as the 4runner BTW. 99 runner, I already have an Amsoil filter, and I have absolutely no money left for any type of mods. I'll be lucky to be able to buy winter tires - on my credit card, of course. __________________ Hugo Lafreniere 1999 Toyota 4runner SR5 V6 5 speed - not stock - sold FTL :( 1999 BMW ///M3 convertible 5 speed - not stock 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Limited Wagon 5 speed - not stock

09-02-2005, 12:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lone4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Quincy, MA Posts: 608	honestly would you really wanna give up your truck for another?? would you really be happy with another truck and is the savings worth it? gas sucks but i bought my truck to play with so its a luxury expense. now its one thing if you said you wanted better gas mileage and then went to a corolla. well hopefully these are questions you thought of.

09-02-2005, 02:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
Roadtripr Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 927	can't she drive with you? Let her drive some of the time? Don't get to far into dept. Or more be practical sell the Z3 as this can't get you through winter anyhow and buy a used one later when you can afford it. __________________ Carsten -------------------------- 99 4runner SR5 4x4 5spd

09-02-2005, 02:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
jimbo74 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nor*Cal Posts: 6,582	get an awd subaru.... mileage probably wont be too different to justify buying anotehr truck and selling your current one......

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86 TurboSR5 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Turlock, California Posts: 96	86 2wd turbo 5 speed. 22-25city 31+ highway Worth it? Barely tolerable for me. Most vehicles dont do much better I suppose, but they have more comfort.

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Lone4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Quincy, MA Posts: 608	guess my thing is that you already spent the money on your 3rd gen and even if you were a mechanic by trade the money you save if any on gas might go to repair bills and mods. but thats me.

09-02-2005, 03:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
GodwinAustin Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eagle County Colorado Posts: 1,149	yeah, I think the consensus is that the 5VZE is almost as efficient as a 22r from 1st gens...there are some people on both ends of the spectrum but in general the 3.4 is a pretty efficient engine. You will not be saving much if any by switching, unless your 3.4 is a total dog for whatever reason. __________________ -Jon Red 88 4runner - 5Spd - 22re

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EWAYota Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Richland, Washington Posts: 4,597	if you sold the 3rd gen. then bought a 1st and modded it for playing on the weekends, how much ahead are you really gonna be? tires/gears/locker/lift plus the initial price of the purchase and replacing anything that needs to be replaced or rebuilt. __________________ DJ 1994 Pickup 22RE, Engnbldr 261 cam, 5 speed. Tires that go around and around... Preping for SAS...... Originally Posted By Fustercluck "Proof that Gangus did not spontaneously generate....he has relatives." Originally Posted By Tacoclimber "My two year old better get a job, soon..." Reply Posted By Oly884 "I hear coal mining is a great career." Myspace

09-02-2005, 06:05 PM	#15 (permalink)
Hugo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Charlesbourg (Qc) Posts: 181	Case closed... http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=66645 __________________ Hugo Lafreniere 1999 Toyota 4runner SR5 V6 5 speed - not stock - sold FTL :( 1999 BMW ///M3 convertible 5 speed - not stock 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Limited Wagon 5 speed - not stock

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02SE Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 233	FWIW, I doubt you will get any improvement in mileage with a 1st gen, vs. your 3rd gen. That's based on my own experience.

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Hugo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Charlesbourg (Qc) Posts: 181	It's ok, I'm selling it anyway. I just won't get a 1st gen. __________________ Hugo Lafreniere 1999 Toyota 4runner SR5 V6 5 speed - not stock - sold FTL :( 1999 BMW ///M3 convertible 5 speed - not stock 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Limited Wagon 5 speed - not stock

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Bumpin' Yota Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 3,639	im keeping my 2nd gen. No matter what I will never let her go....however I AM buying a crotch rocket...R6 or gsxr600 or cbr600....dunno yet. __________________ 3vze, 4x4, sr5, 90, auto, LSD 2x dB Drag World Finalist 2003 Nopi Nat. Street B champ 2004 SBN Street C champ 2004 SBN Advncd NW Champ 2004 Former WR Holder in NW. SPL: 159.8db @ 42hz In loving memory of Jamie Riggs 5/15/85 - 10/8/04

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dragr1 Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Auburn, AL Posts: 3,627	Sell the '99, the Sammi, and the Z3 and get a BMW 330IX Wagon-speed, awd, kid hauling, and good mpg. __________________ 1985 4Runner Dual e-lockers, dual cases, yada yada 1996 4runner, lifted, 2 lockers, 315 KM2's, IFS and more '00 Suburban 2500 4x4 '07 Tacoma Double Cab 4wd TRD '02 Lexus IS300 1991 Tiffin Allegro 31' Class A

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09-02-2005, 09:43 PM	#19 (permalink)
Adam F Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 2,398	With the money you have selling the 99, get a 1st gen for offroad and a Honda or something that gets 25+ mpg for your daily commute. __________________ 88 4Runner. 350 V8, R150 5-speed. SAS, 36" TSL's, elocker rear

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Hugo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Charlesbourg (Qc) Posts: 181	No money for that, I'm afraid. I need 4wd for winter (or AWD), so I'll likely get some Honduh CR-Ghey or something until I get more cash. __________________ Hugo Lafreniere 1999 Toyota 4runner SR5 V6 5 speed - not stock - sold FTL :( 1999 BMW ///M3 convertible 5 speed - not stock 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Limited Wagon 5 speed - not stock

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