Cruise Control Help

colsoncj · 06-13-2004, 12:56 PM

I've got an 87 Runner and I think the cruise control was a dealer installed unit. The control box says made in the USA and nothing matches the system in the FSM. Has anyone ever seen this or know anything about it? Mine stopped workin and I'm tryin to figure out how to fix it. The on/off/set lever is a third lever sticking out of the steering column, behind the light combo switch. The control unit is on the pass side of the truck, it has no main cruise switch on the dash, and no vaccum actuator on the drivers side by the firewall. I haven't looked to see if its got a cruise control brain in the drivers kick panel, but i'd put my money on it that it doesn't. Anyone know anything about this, or better yet know the diagnostics to the system?

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Flamedx4 · 06-13-2004, 01:29 PM

Is there any manufacturers name on any of the parts? (Rostra, OEM, SCS, Audiovox etc?)
Defo not a factory unit, you hit all the indicators.

colsoncj · 06-13-2004, 02:02 PM

Ok I looked high and low for a manufacturer's name. All I could find is Made in the USA and Patent Pending on the "controller" box under the hood.
How do you add pictures to a reply? I have pic of the control lever and "controller" box.

colsoncj · 06-13-2004, 02:23 PM

here's the controller box. its the thing in the center next to the diagnostic connector

another pic of it

here's the control lever on the column

Flamedx4 · 06-13-2004, 06:56 PM

Haven't seen that particular unit before. Sorry to be no help...

I assume you've checked to see if it's getting power (must be a fuse somewhere) and checked all the connections etc.

If you can't diagnose it as a bad connector or something, your best bet is to yank the whole thing and buy a whole new one. They're only about $129, complete!

RedRunner_87 · 06-13-2004, 06:59 PM

I will get some pics up. I have a '87 Runner w/Cruise control.

colsoncj · 06-13-2004, 07:17 PM

Thank you all for your help so far. I would like to see what your 4Runner's cruise looks like, and if you know anything about it. Should I have to get a new cruise setup, does anyone have any suggestions for a reliable unit?

RedRunner_87 · 06-13-2004, 07:27 PM

Here is the LINK to the phote ablum.

Here is the Cruise Control stick

Me and my step-dad think this is related to the Cruise Control, but are unsure.

colsoncj · 06-13-2004, 07:48 PM

Yep, all that stuff is in the FSM, and my truck doesn't have it. Thanks for the pics! Does anyone know if it is easier to use all factory components and convert the truck if I can't get my sytem working again; or is it easier to just use an aftermarket kit?

Marc · 06-14-2004, 08:35 AM

I would use an aftermarket unit. I'm sure they are less expensive and also sure they will work better.

Flamedx4 · 06-14-2004, 09:34 AM

Just for grins you might call a dealer and see if they are even available (good bet they are not) and then ask the price. Then go shopping for an aftermarket unit. They're all similar, nothing special about them, the engineering hasn't changed for decades and they're all pretty reliable. I've installed dozens of them, takes a couple hours. Anyone could do it.

Flamedx4 · 06-14-2004, 09:48 AM

Here's a source or two:
http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/s...isecontrol.asp
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...asp&d=11&s=185

Good ol' Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33595
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

4Runner 4Play · 06-14-2004, 10:06 AM

hey, colsoncj.... just a thought... I think all cruise control units whether OEM or aftermarket will have a shut off control. One of the things that would cause your cruise control to stop working would be 1 or 2 brake lights to be out. As in broken bulb or fuse etc... hope this helps. cheers

Flamedx4 · 06-14-2004, 05:02 PM

You're right!! I've forgotten so much of this stuff over the years. Could be as simple as the brake light fuse, brake light switch out of adjustment, or if it's a vacuum op unit, the vacuum line on the brake switch loose, or even a bad vacuum switch (used to be very common...)

colsoncj · 06-16-2004, 05:07 AM

Well this weekend I'm going to have some time, so I'll take a look at it. If I figure out the in's and out's of this system I'll post it, in case someone else has the same system. Thanks for your help and I'll let you know what I find out.

colsoncj · 06-20-2004, 09:31 PM

Well i figured out what the problem was. The cruise control itself is fine., it just thinks that the clutch is depressed. All I need to do is adjust the clutch switch so that the cruise doesn't think that I'm pushing on the clutch and everything will be a-ok. I still don't have the foggiest idea who manufactures the cruise control unit, so if anyone does, let me know. Thanks to everyone for your help and input.

06-13-2004, 01:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Flamedx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 100 miles offshore as much as possible, & Springfield Oregon USA Posts: 3,285	Is there any manufacturers name on any of the parts? (Rostra, OEM, SCS, Audiovox etc?) Defo not a factory unit, you hit all the indicators. __________________ All my Yotas are gone. Stuff to sell: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...39#post1009839 -Phil

06-13-2004, 02:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	Ok I looked high and low for a manufacturer's name. All I could find is Made in the USA and Patent Pending on the "controller" box under the hood. How do you add pictures to a reply? I have pic of the control lever and "controller" box. __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

06-13-2004, 02:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	here's the controller box. its the thing in the center next to the diagnostic connector another pic of it here's the control lever on the column __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

06-13-2004, 06:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
Flamedx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 100 miles offshore as much as possible, & Springfield Oregon USA Posts: 3,285	Haven't seen that particular unit before. Sorry to be no help... I assume you've checked to see if it's getting power (must be a fuse somewhere) and checked all the connections etc. If you can't diagnose it as a bad connector or something, your best bet is to yank the whole thing and buy a whole new one. They're only about $129, complete! __________________ All my Yotas are gone. Stuff to sell: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...39#post1009839 -Phil

06-13-2004, 06:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
RedRunner_87 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 1,045	I will get some pics up. I have a '87 Runner w/Cruise control. __________________ *SOLD1987 4Runner SR5(Red), 22RE, 5-speed, 16" Taco rims.SOLD* PIC 1988 Pick Up Extra Cab l 22RE l 5- Speed l 2" Downy Springs l 1.5" BJ Spacers l Sway-barless Parts to Install: 33x10.50 BFG M/T KM2 l 5.29 Gears l Aussie Locker(Rear) PIC Myspace Yotatech group

06-13-2004, 07:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	Thank you all for your help so far. I would like to see what your 4Runner's cruise looks like, and if you know anything about it. Should I have to get a new cruise setup, does anyone have any suggestions for a reliable unit? __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

06-13-2004, 07:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
RedRunner_87 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 1,045	Here is the LINK to the phote ablum. Here is the Cruise Control stick Me and my step-dad think this is related to the Cruise Control, but are unsure. __________________ *SOLD1987 4Runner SR5(Red), 22RE, 5-speed, 16" Taco rims.SOLD* PIC 1988 Pick Up Extra Cab l 22RE l 5- Speed l 2" Downy Springs l 1.5" BJ Spacers l Sway-barless Parts to Install: 33x10.50 BFG M/T KM2 l 5.29 Gears l Aussie Locker(Rear) PIC Myspace Yotatech group Last edited by RedRunner_87; 06-13-2004 at 07:29 PM.

06-13-2004, 07:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	Yep, all that stuff is in the FSM, and my truck doesn't have it. Thanks for the pics! Does anyone know if it is easier to use all factory components and convert the truck if I can't get my sytem working again; or is it easier to just use an aftermarket kit? __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

06-14-2004, 08:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
Marc Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Posts: 688	I would use an aftermarket unit. I'm sure they are less expensive and also sure they will work better. __________________ '91 4Runner SR5 V6 4X4 Auto, A/C, 4.56, 31x10.5x15 Nokian Vatiiva Tires, Taurus fan (removed) '90 4Runner SR5 V6 4X4 Auto, A/C, 4.56 V6 power with V8 fuel mileage I've used Fram oil filters and dino oil in all my stuff for 30 years and never had trouble I bet MOST people who say "swap in a 3.4" have NEVER changed any engine nevermind converting to a different type

06-14-2004, 09:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
Flamedx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 100 miles offshore as much as possible, & Springfield Oregon USA Posts: 3,285	Just for grins you might call a dealer and see if they are even available (good bet they are not) and then ask the price. Then go shopping for an aftermarket unit. They're all similar, nothing special about them, the engineering hasn't changed for decades and they're all pretty reliable. I've installed dozens of them, takes a couple hours. Anyone could do it. __________________ All my Yotas are gone. Stuff to sell: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...39#post1009839 -Phil

06-14-2004, 09:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
Flamedx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 100 miles offshore as much as possible, & Springfield Oregon USA Posts: 3,285	Here's a source or two: http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/s...isecontrol.asp http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...asp&d=11&s=185 Good ol' Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33595 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW __________________ All my Yotas are gone. Stuff to sell: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...39#post1009839 -Phil

06-14-2004, 10:06 AM	#13 (permalink)
4Runner 4Play Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cloverdale, B.C., Canada Posts: 181	hey, colsoncj.... just a thought... I think all cruise control units whether OEM or aftermarket will have a shut off control. One of the things that would cause your cruise control to stop working would be 1 or 2 brake lights to be out. As in broken bulb or fuse etc... hope this helps. cheers __________________ '93 4Runner, 31'' BFG Muds, K-N Drop-In, Custom 2.25'' Exhaust, Flowmaster 40 series, Deckplate Mod, No Sway-bars Mod, OME Steering Stabilizer, Ome M72F Frt Shocks, SDORI 2" B.J. Spacers, OME 901 H.D. Coils, OME N98 Rr Shocks Backroads Mapbook =$25.00 BFG Mudders =$450.00 1 Big bag of sunshine =$180.00 Staying on the trail for 5 days with your closest buddies all driving Toyota's =Priceless

06-14-2004, 05:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
Flamedx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 100 miles offshore as much as possible, & Springfield Oregon USA Posts: 3,285	You're right!! I've forgotten so much of this stuff over the years. Could be as simple as the brake light fuse, brake light switch out of adjustment, or if it's a vacuum op unit, the vacuum line on the brake switch loose, or even a bad vacuum switch (used to be very common...) __________________ All my Yotas are gone. Stuff to sell: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...39#post1009839 -Phil

06-16-2004, 05:07 AM	#15 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	Well this weekend I'm going to have some time, so I'll take a look at it. If I figure out the in's and out's of this system I'll post it, in case someone else has the same system. Thanks for your help and I'll let you know what I find out. __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

06-20-2004, 09:31 PM	#16 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	Well i figured out what the problem was. The cruise control itself is fine., it just thinks that the clutch is depressed. All I need to do is adjust the clutch switch so that the cruise doesn't think that I'm pushing on the clutch and everything will be a-ok. I still don't have the foggiest idea who manufactures the cruise control unit, so if anyone does, let me know. Thanks to everyone for your help and input. __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

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