Ceramic Brake Pads?

BeevDawg · 10-25-2004, 02:12 PM

I have a 93 2wd 4runner and I've heard multiple things about the ceramic brake pads, but I decided to hit it straight at the source. What are your guys' opinions on ceramic brake pads? Braking Power? Long lasting? Lemmie know, cya.

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KING · 10-25-2004, 02:16 PM

Ceramic pads meet or exceed all original equipment standards for durability, stopping distance and noise. According to durability tests, ceramic compounds extend brake life compared to most other semi-metallic and organic materials and outlast other premium pad materials by a significant margin – with no sacrifice in noise control, pad life or braking performance.

X-AWDriver · 10-25-2004, 03:24 PM

How about brake dust?

My new Runner does need front brakes and I'm considering options.

jimbo74 · 10-25-2004, 03:37 PM

ceramic pads are supposed to have very low amounts of dust when compared to standard semi metallic type pads

Silver_Truck · 10-25-2004, 03:50 PM

EBC pads are the way to go!!!

yamarocket630 · 10-25-2004, 06:29 PM

Not on the Yota, but I have ceramic pads on my Imprezaru, and I love them more every time I stop the car. I have done track days and insane speed mountain passes (The Dragon at Deal's Gap NC) multiple times on these pads and I love them. They are a little vague for that first stop of the day, but once even a little heat gets to them they are fine, and they have POSITVE fade charactoristics, i.e. the hotter they get, the better they work. Brake dust is almost non-existant too. In about 35k miles of use I have managed to wear them about 50%, so I'm pretty happy for my $40 investment.

KING · 10-25-2004, 07:30 PM

Another characteristic that makes ceramic materials attractive is the absence of noticeable dust. All brake pads produce dust as they wear. The ingredients in ceramic compounds produce a light colored dust that is much less noticeable and less likely to stick to the wheels.

This is quite an improvement over organic and semi-metallic brake materials that typically sacrifice pad life to reduce noise, or vice versa.

4RUNR · 10-25-2004, 07:54 PM

I had ceramic pads for a week. Tried everything short of a vodoo ritual. They always squealed. Now they sit quietly in a box.

Gadget · 10-25-2004, 10:29 PM

Link???

Gadget

zebra1550 · 10-26-2004, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4RUNR

I had ceramic pads for a week. Tried everything short of a vodoo ritual. They always squealed. Now they sit quietly in a box.

I'm surprised to hear that. I had semi-metallic pads on my T100 that sqeaked like crazy, even though they were pretty new. I bought a set of ceramic brake pads from Advanced Auto and like magic the sqeak is gone. I've put about 2K miles on the ceramic pads so far. The stopping power is great and I don't notice hardly and brake dust.

Chapman88SR5 · 10-26-2004, 05:27 AM

whats the price difference?

4RUNR · 10-26-2004, 08:10 AM

I don't believe ceramic were getting up to their designed operating temperature on the 4Runner. The brakes are well sized and run fairly cool, as indicated by many getting 80k+ miles on a set of OEM pads. They did feel better than OEM pads.

Stump1883 · 10-26-2004, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4RUNR

I don't believe ceramic were getting up to their designed operating temperature on the 4Runner. The brakes are well sized and run fairly cool, as indicated by many getting 80k+ miles on a set of OEM pads. They did feel better than OEM pads.

I LOVE mine, they stop like no other, and there is no break dust what so ever, I haven't cleaned the wheels in at least 2 months and they still look new. Now if I could just find the $$$ to fix my warped rotors and I would be even better off.

donc · 10-28-2004, 04:57 AM

Installing new Brembo rotors and ceramic pads this week. I have TRD pads on stock rotors and have 102K miles on the rotors - turned them twice for warpage issues. Anyone have a procedure for changing rotors?

X-AWDriver · 10-28-2004, 07:14 AM

I'm getting my brakes done tomorrow and it'll be the ceramic pads.

MTL_4runner · 10-28-2004, 05:28 PM

What brands of ceramics are you guys using?
I am looking to do my fronts soon too.

2001Millrunner · 10-29-2004, 12:09 PM

what do you guys use for the rear drums? how often do you need to replace those?

X-AWDriver · 10-29-2004, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTL_4runner

What brands of ceramics are you guys using?
I am looking to do my fronts soon too.

My truck will be done in the next hour and I'll see what brand they are.

cox380 · 04-27-2007, 01:45 AM

[quote=4RUNR;435510]I had ceramic pads for a week. Tried everything short of a vodoo ritual. They always squealed. Now they sit quietly in a box.[/QUOT

There is this stuff you can buy at any auto part store that you put on the back of the pads before you install them in the caliper. It suppose to stop the squealing. Its kinda like high temp silicone. I don't know what its called exactly.

97Limited · 04-27-2007, 08:40 AM

I love mine too!! I would never run anything else!! I'm running Ceramics with the Tundra set-up on my 4Runner, I get awesome breaking performance, and as the ceramics heat up they grab even more, and yes they are low dust pads, and the dust does not etch your wheels

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2001Millrunner

what do you guys use for the rear drums? how often do you need to replace those?

The shoes on the drums pretty much never have to be touched, unless you run into axle seal issues, every time you use your E-brake it adjusts your shoes. They have a slow wear rate, A set of shoes will last a good 5 years under normal drive'n conditions on our trucks!!

Pest · 04-27-2007, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stump1883

I LOVE mine, they stop like no other, and there is no break dust what so ever, I haven't cleaned the wheels in at least 2 months and they still look new. Now if I could just find the $$$ to fix my warped rotors and I would be even better off.

Checker and other Auto parts stores will turn the rotors for you, like 10 bucks a rotor or something. Really cheap considering the alternative of taking it to a shop. However, if they're warped and too thin to be cut safely...

10-25-2004, 03:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,174	How about brake dust? My new Runner does need front brakes and I'm considering options. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

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10-25-2004, 06:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
yamarocket630 Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burton, MI Posts: 234	Not on the Yota, but I have ceramic pads on my Imprezaru, and I love them more every time I stop the car. I have done track days and insane speed mountain passes (The Dragon at Deal's Gap NC) multiple times on these pads and I love them. They are a little vague for that first stop of the day, but once even a little heat gets to them they are fine, and they have POSITVE fade charactoristics, i.e. the hotter they get, the better they work. Brake dust is almost non-existant too. In about 35k miles of use I have managed to wear them about 50%, so I'm pretty happy for my $40 investment. __________________ 2004 4WD Ext cab Taco TRD 5VZFE. - Lunar mist - mostly stock not so daily driver 1990 Subaru Legacy Wagon. - beater POS in 3 different colors of silver -

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10-25-2004, 02:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
KING Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PEORIA, AZ Posts: 1,853	Ceramic pads meet or exceed all original equipment standards for durability, stopping distance and noise. According to durability tests, ceramic compounds extend brake life compared to most other semi-metallic and organic materials and outlast other premium pad materials by a significant margin – with no sacrifice in noise control, pad life or braking performance.

10-25-2004, 03:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
jimbo74 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nor*Cal Posts: 6,582	ceramic pads are supposed to have very low amounts of dust when compared to standard semi metallic type pads

10-25-2004, 07:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
KING Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PEORIA, AZ Posts: 1,853	Another characteristic that makes ceramic materials attractive is the absence of noticeable dust. All brake pads produce dust as they wear. The ingredients in ceramic compounds produce a light colored dust that is much less noticeable and less likely to stick to the wheels. This is quite an improvement over organic and semi-metallic brake materials that typically sacrifice pad life to reduce noise, or vice versa.

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4RUNR Guest Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Pole Posts: 1,619	I had ceramic pads for a week. Tried everything short of a vodoo ritual. They always squealed. Now they sit quietly in a box.

10-26-2004, 08:10 AM	#12 (permalink)
4RUNR Guest Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Pole Posts: 1,619	I don't believe ceramic were getting up to their designed operating temperature on the 4Runner. The brakes are well sized and run fairly cool, as indicated by many getting 80k+ miles on a set of OEM pads. They did feel better than OEM pads.

10-28-2004, 04:57 AM	#14 (permalink)
donc Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle area Posts: 109	rotors and pads Installing new Brembo rotors and ceramic pads this week. I have TRD pads on stock rotors and have 102K miles on the rotors - turned them twice for warpage issues. Anyone have a procedure for changing rotors? __________________ 95 SR5 5sp Garnet Red, Bilstiens, Amsoil, synthetics in running gear, air bags in rear coils, silverstars, OME SS. Aisin hubs TBI: Hella 550s, backup lights SMT-5

10-28-2004, 07:14 AM	#15 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,174	I'm getting my brakes done tomorrow and it'll be the ceramic pads. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

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MTL_4runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 8,807	What brands of ceramics are you guys using? I am looking to do my fronts soon too. __________________ - Jamie 1996 4Runner SR5 4X4 Auto Deckplate Mod, Hayden Tranny Cooler, Amsoil Air Filter, OME 881/906 N86C/N91SC Lift Best OBD II scan tool I have used!. .....and I am AMERICAN!

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04-27-2007, 01:45 AM	#19 (permalink)
cox380 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hawaii Posts: 96	[quote=4RUNR;435510]I had ceramic pads for a week. Tried everything short of a vodoo ritual. They always squealed. Now they sit quietly in a box.[/QUOT There is this stuff you can buy at any auto part store that you put on the back of the pads before you install them in the caliper. It suppose to stop the squealing. Its kinda like high temp silicone. I don't know what its called exactly.

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