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Old 02-03-2008, 08:30 PM
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I've also had these parts waiting to be installed for a couple weeks.

A few parts from Trail-Gear

Axle truss


Diff. Armor


Brake plate spacers (Remove's stock brake plate)




Knuckle ball gussets




Knuckle Re-build kit


Front shackles, 5"


Rock Rings




And of course, the ARP Knuckle studs

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Old 02-03-2008, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Volcom
You'll love the 30 spline Longfields. Just knowing the weakest link isn't the birfields and having to carry spares is great!! I need to order up the hub gears soon as well as some ARP knuckle studs and APR hub studs.

How's the snow been in Summit County? From the looks of it, you've been getting hammered this year
I need to order the hub studs from Front Range Off-Road, they are easy to install, so I have not been worried about having them here right away. I'll get them coming in the next week or two. As for the birfields, it's nice to know that I won't have to tear apart the front end THREE times on one trip .

It's snowing right now, and has been the last couple days. The snow is great right now, I just wish I had time to go snowboarding. Between work and getting the truck fixed I have not been able to get out.
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Originally Posted by fillsrunner4
Nice So beefy. I just need to make a trip down to Olympia and pick up a set myself. Maybe this summer

It will nice to not have to worry about them . A couple of my friends are running them and they seem to be well worth the money!
Old 02-06-2008, 05:04 PM
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I got Marlin's new front axle seals ordered, along with a pair of front brake lines. I had the Superlift lines but one of them was damaged when the leafspring broke and I don't really trust it. I will keep the other old one as a spare.

That should take care of the new parts for a while (I hope). Now it's time to start getting some work done.
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Looks like youve got some goodies to install get er done like I need to with mine. I want those ARP or dana studs you can use. I was looking at the 6stud nuckles but i hear they are a bit weaker than the 4stud plus since your using the 5th stud that long sells youll be golden with that front axle

Ya you wont really have to worry about the 30spline and if you get then inner hub too they are garenteed for life no question which is good to know.

Old 02-08-2008, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by fillsrunner4
Looks like youve got some goodies to install get er done like I need to with mine. I want those ARP or dana studs you can use. I was looking at the 6stud nuckles but i hear they are a bit weaker than the 4stud plus since your using the 5th stud that long sells youll be golden with that front axle

Ya you wont really have to worry about the 30spline and if you get then inner hub too they are garenteed for life no question which is good to know.

I thought about the six shooters but I really can't afford them. It's a lot of money to spend if you already have a highsteer kit. I think with the ARP studs and the fifth stud kit the stregth should be pretty close to the six shooters.
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Originally Posted by DIRTCO
I thought about the six shooters but I really can't afford them. It's a lot of money to spend if you already have a highsteer kit. I think with the ARP studs and the fifth stud kit the stregth should be pretty close to the six shooters.
The thing is though Marlin was gonna be the seller of them but when it came to the actual testing of them they proved to be weaker not much but enough to keep marlin from putting his name on them. Trail gear is the only seller I believe but they arent worth the money to use aspecialy since they are weaker than a stock 4bolt nuckle. youll be golden with the 5th stud and ARP studs

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I've working on the truck a little bit. Here's what has been done.

I started with a few simple projects. When I got my new daily driver I had to rob some parts off this truck. First item was the headlights, I had some really nice IPF H4 conversions, but since this is no longer my daily driver I did not need anything that fancy. Those went in the daily driver and got replaced with a set of Walmart specials They are suposed to be brighter but after the lights I had they seem pretty regular



I also had to steal the battery cables when the daily driver had some problems. Made up some new ones the same way I made the old set. The cables are 4 gauge with standard copper ring terminals, I covered the ends with tape to prevent shorts.





And here is the daily driver that got all the goodies
1986 Turbo SR5 4Runner



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Then I went to work on cutting down the driver's side rockslider, after cutting a couple of the bars the whole thing sprung apart. It seems that after a couple of years beating the crap out of them, they had some stored up energy Here is how much it moved.





After a bunch of grinding (of which I am really being to hate) this is how it looks.





I then cleaned up the old welds for the rear cage section.

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Here's another picture of the front leafspring, or what's let of it I removed the shackle and the broken leaf just to get it out of the way.



I then added an extra rockslider support to the passenger side. It probably doesn't need it but I want to make some door bars off of the roll cage and these will be used as an extra suport.



You also have to love the dent in the frame

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And last, I started working the cage some more. I don't have any pictures of the progess yet (should have some tommorrow) but this will give you an idea of what I have so far.

I designed the cage to go through the dash.





Middle brace and supports





And why the doors still kind of work





I put these in to keep a windshield in the tuck (I hope)




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More pictures!

I got the side panels back in, they are made of some plywood I found and some black speaker box carpet.



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Then I started working on some of the tube work. I wanted to get the main cage section ready for the new rear cage.

This is a trick I used for complex tube work.

Start with a couple paper towel rolls, take two pieces and cut them down the middle. Then place them on top of each other on the tube and tape them together.







Then slide it off, hold up to where you want the tubing to be and start trimming until fits the way you want. Slide it back on the tube and trace the pattern out. Then start cutting



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And after a couple hours this is how it came out.









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And a some pictures after I pulled it out of the shop







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You should check into getting one of these
Pipemaster tube fitting tool



You could save yourself some TP and TP rolls

Cage looks sick. Love the dove-tail as well!! Nice work, can't wait to see it this summer on Indy
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Originally Posted by Volcom
You should check into getting one of these
Pipemaster tube fitting tool



You could save yourself some TP and TP rolls

Cage looks sick. Love the dove-tail as well!! Nice work, can't wait to see it this summer on Indy
Those are sweet, I've seen them before but forgot all about it. If you were always working with one size of tubing, or did this thing for a living, these would be a huge time saver. I tend to work with a lot of different sizes of tubing, so that would be a pretty big investment. If I was going to build a new rig or F-Toy those would be the first thing on my list

Thanks, I still have a lot of work to complete on the cage and dovetail. I'm looking forward to getting some new dents and scratches.
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My brother has the 1.75" tube version. He loves it and helped him with his cage big time! I need to borrow it when I go to build mine.

Nice front bumper also! Did you end up making your winch removable and just using a cradle?
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Originally Posted by Volcom
My brother has the 1.75" tube version. He loves it and helped him with his cage big time! I need to borrow it when I go to build mine.

Nice front bumper also! Did you end up making your winch removable and just using a cradle?
I can see how it would help a lot, even using the paper towel rolls take a lot of time. You get a nice pattern to work off of, but it takes some time cutting the template to get it right.

On another note, I don't know if you have a design for your cage but I love how I ran mine through the dash. A couple of my friends have the All-Pro cage and (while it's a good product) it's a real pain getting in and out of the truck. The heater still works great and if I would have spent some extra time I could have put the heater grills back in. It does take more time, but well worth it, a cage is one of those things that you usually only build once.

Thanks, the front bumper is one of my favorte parts of the truck. It just looks "mean" in person. I made it so that I can used a multi-mount winch, but I just havn't got one yet (it's going on 3 years ) You can also bash it into the rocks as much as you want and not have to woory about it. You can see all the rock rash in the photo, but I still have a headlight and nothing to worry about

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I got some more work done this weekend, I don't have pictures yet but should in the next day or two.

While working on the truck I ran into a issue. Ever since I deciced to under take this project, I've had a pretty clear picture of how the truck was going to look. I'm now having a hard time figuring out what to do.

Here is my original plan for the rear tube work, very buggy like, and I felt that the sloped back along with the dovetailed bed would follow each other. There will be more bracing and tubing, this is just to give you an idea (the passenger side looked really weird when I added the supports, so there is only the driver side).





Well, after climbing in and out of the truck two dozen times, I realized that there was a major flaw to my oringal idea. After I chopped the rock sliders down, it was a major PITA to get into the back of the truck. I then thought about how much fun it would as a jungle gym.

So this is the idea I had, super simple and should be just as strong for the main cage section. Again there will be more tubing, this is just the idea. It should make getting into the back of the truck a lot easier.





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