BigBallsMcFalls

nitrogen for the racetrack only, so you get more consistent results with specific tires and track conditions. all other uses, a waste of money

RustBucket

iTrader: (1)

Except for the fact that N2 is a noble gas that doesn't react with anything, and O2 causes all kinds of things to rust and oxidize. I would imagine that if the inside of your tires only encountered N2, it's useful like would be much much greater since the compounds of the tire would not break down. However, seeing as how we use up the useful tread in just a few years and it takes more like 8 for a tire to start to get "old", it's probably not worth it. But maybe if a person is planning to use the same tires for more than a decade it could be a good option?

BigBallsMcFalls

a decade ? the cost of entry to nitrogen for a decade would buy a lot of tires.


no it is not a good option unless you like throwing money away.

buy your own nitrogen generator for home. about $2200 dollars.

AxleIke

Except for the fact that N2 is most certainly, most definitely, most ultimately NOT a noble gas.

The noble gases are as follows: Helium, Neon, Argon, Krypton, Xenon, and Radon.

Not to mention that what makes a tire "old" is UV radiation from being in the sun, not the air inside.

As for oxidation, sure. Except that only really affects your wheels, and the OUTSIDE of your wheels will degrade LONG before the interior.

For your everyday use, you are wasting your money.

Mic09dcsm

So then all densities are constant in the world. I get it i get it.

AxleIke

Huh?

What does what I said have to do with density?

Density is mass per unit volume. Density is mass dependent in a fixed volume like a tire. I was not discussing density.

People, if you don't believe me, this stuff is readily available on Wikipedia!

DailyDrive

The Jiffy Lube stuff is junk. I fill up with Synthetic Nitrogen, it costs 3 times as much, but well worth it if you really care about your car. You want problems down the road, like your tires popping at 90mph? Don't cut corners when it comes to the important stuff.

AxleIke

I put synthetic Neon in my tires! Costs 100 times as much, but then my tires glow when I hook up my under truck glowz man!!!

LOL

904_runner

I put free air in my tires, seems like to much a waste of money to pay to inflate your tires imo.

Especially when airing up and down when wheeling.

But call me cheap if you want

Boukrev

The nitrogen in your tires will not change the roll resistance so it cannot increase gas millage running appropriate tire press. I am an aircraft maintenance tech and we run nitrogen in the tires but it is for preservation of the rubber. Nitrogen may as well leak out slower than air as a side benefit. Hope this helps.


Gregg

forbiddenera

there was a gas station in my town with a compressor and it said 'please insert $1'

there was also a tiny sticker on the inside that said 'please see cashier for complimentary air'

i had to go inside twice to get my tires up

Embfixer

I too am in aviation (A&P) and we have to use it in aircraft tires and in accumulators due to the fact that it is has no moisture in it to freeze in the extreme cold of high altitude flights.

As far as cars and trucks I do not see any advantage that would be worth the cost of doing it. The only reason I do it is because I have a nitrogen tank for aircraft use with a chuck and pressure gauge already on it and I am too lazy to drag out my air compressor. BTW I have not seen any MPG increase since I did it.

I call BS on the service shops for there claims!

DailyDrive

we need more real world testing results to prove that something that according to all laws of physics should not make one bit of a difference, does indeed not make one bit of a difference

dirtoyboy

god i hope you are joking!

Embfixer

Dude... Thats my pipe....I need it back!

AxleIke

This makes perfect sense to me. Nitrogen has a ridiculously low freezing point, and thus it would be ideal for aircraft.

I don't buy the degradation of tires. Someone is going to need to show me some data or testing that was done to prove that.

I cannot believe that air would degrade tires fast enough, even in airplanes, to be an issue when compared to the time the tire is actually used before it is worn out by the road or runway.

Embfixer

"I cannot believe that air would degrade tires fast enough, even in airplanes, to be an issue when compared to the time the tire is actually used before it is worn out by the road or runway."

Exactly! Good point!

The tires on the aircraft in our fleet are on wing an avrage of 2-4 weeks. Alot of times less then that if they encounter FOD (forgin object damage). at $12,000 a piece... well we spend alot on tires.

So if you figure your tires on a car or truck might last for 60,0000 miles and you drop $25 twice a year to air up (much more in you air down to go off road.) That still is alot of money to spend on something usless for cars. Wet nasty water and air will not degrade a tire any real amount in 10 years. The road will wear out your tires before air and moisture will.

3w41d

air is 78% nitrogen to begin with.........

SoCalPaul

AxelIke will probably correct me if I'm wrong (It's nice to have real Xperts on the forum) , but here's my 2 cents. The nitrogen has less to do with the gas molecules & more to do with the lack of water vapor. Water vapor causes greater expansion when the tires get hot than does "dry" gas. If you live in a dry climate, no point in nitrogen. If you live in a humid climate make sure your compressor has a moisture trap (mine does) & you should be O.K.

Paul

waskillywabbit

iTrader: (-1)

Hell no nitrogen provides no added benefits. Checking your tire pressure regularly is much more important.

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