Adventure/Outdoor Clothing

***Corey*** · 04-06-2009, 04:23 PM

What brands/models do you like to get for camping?
I have some really nice Columbia cotton cargo pants called the GPS, but alas they quit making them.
I bought three pair a few years ago to wear to work, kick back on the weekends, go wheeling in them, and also take camping.

I get Deluths Trading magazine via mail, and I decided to try out some of their gear.
This store comes highly regarded on other forums.
I just placed an order at Deluth for:
CoolMax® Action Shirt

Performance Ripstop Pants

MN Performance Ripstop 9" Shorts

I am not a fan of the pants not having a zipper in them, but I will give them a try.
I also liked getting helped after the second phone ring, and no transferring or phone menu to wade through.

Deluth also makes very nice work pants that stand up to abuse, much like Carhartts do.

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a4runnerfreak · 04-06-2009, 04:28 PM

Just regular jeans and t-shirts for me, and a decent pair of hiking boots. Oh, and my Carhartt jacket, of course....

Godzilla · 04-06-2009, 05:06 PM

It really all depends on what you are doing when you go camping. I shy away from cotton materials of course and try to focus on layers. Always bring 2 pairs of shoes/boots and the proper socks! Good socks are a must.
Not sure what you Am'ricans have, but alot of canucks shop at mec (www.mec.ca) since they have clothing and gear for many applications at a reasonable cost.
You may want to check them out since they do have an online store.
And if you like carharts, check out dickies instead. Same product, sometimes better, and much cheaper.

bigt · 04-06-2009, 05:45 PM

cargo's i love pockets.. also stuff from dick stoprts they have warm hoodies and jacket type things.. for up in canada its COLD..

corey always has the low down on the camping situation...
we got some really cool cups that dont spil and keep drinks warm/cold at my work.. they might be called congos but i they are pretty cool.

***Corey*** · 04-06-2009, 05:46 PM

I quit wearing jeans years ago.
I do not like the heavy stiff cotton, although I do wear cotton pants like the GPS pants I mentioned above.

Plus jeans if they get wet, they are useless and can cause hypothermia.
The nice thing about nylon or cotton/nylon blend is they dry very quickly if they get wet.

I have two pair of nice Columbia nylon cargo shorts I bought years ago.
Again, Columbia quit making them.
I wish they would quit doing that when they have a good product then quit making it and offer something else that is not as good.

I practically live in shorts from April to October with the exception of going to work.
The buildings I support now the boss frowns upon wearing shorts at them.

**aviator** · 04-06-2009, 10:49 PM

Back when I had time to go camping I used to wear my Tough Duck heavy canvas work pants they are double layered from mid-thigh to mid-calf and can really take a lot of abuse and they stay warm when damp... Also mil surplus stuff... wool sweaters... flannel shirts... cotton t's, fleecies, nylon flight jacket... I try to avoid nylon it does'nt breath well and likes to melt into your skin if it catches fire...

***Corey*** · 04-07-2009, 02:21 AM

Here is a brand some may like.
Extra material in all the right places, these are used for mountaineering.

Mountain Khakis company

Alpine pant

Original Mountain pant

jjrgr21 · 04-07-2009, 04:13 AM

patagonia all the way, their wool series, capaline, and R series. def some of the best made

arc teryx is way up on the list too.

toyospearo · 04-07-2009, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjrgr21

patagonia all the way, their wool series, capaline, and R series. def some of the best made

arc teryx is way up on the list too.

I agree!

jjrgr21 · 04-07-2009, 11:13 AM

for work pants MK destroys carhart, carharts have a breakin, and when they are broken in they're already worn out. MK's are already comfy, and burly tough. my only complaint is limited size. i'm 6'2 and 155. but MK's are leaps and bounds better.

jjrgr21 · 04-07-2009, 11:15 AM

corey,

mountain hardware has some nylon pants that are great, and can be found @ STP for around $30

***Corey*** · 04-07-2009, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjrgr21

corey,

mountain hardware has some nylon pants that are great, and can be found @ STP for around $30

I have a pair that came last week from REI, they are called the Mesa.
They are to small, I have to ship them back.

not crazy about the buckle/snap they use, plus the belt was all twisted up inside the pants, and there is no way to get to the belt to really straighten it out.
These are the ones sitting on my couch waiting to be returned.

http://www.rei.com/product/779764

***Corey*** · 04-21-2009, 08:46 AM

An update to this thread:

A few weeks back I ordered some clothing from Duluth Trading, their Rip Stop Performance pants and shorts, both items I shipped back as I swam in them.

I also got their CoolMax short sleeved shirt which I kept.
I wore the shirt to work yesterday, one of the hottest days yet here in Western Washington.
The shirt rocks, it kept me very cool, and not clammy like an all cotton T shirt which I normally wear to work.
I work outside all the time at work, and I can appreciate a shirt that I do not get clammy sweaty in.

Here is the shirt.

Short Sleeve CoolMax Action Shirt

I like it so well I ordered two more this morning, and I also ordered the pants again in a size smaller.

Performance Ripstop Pants

I decided to try one of their hats too for keeping the sun off my noggin'.

The Crusher

If the pants fit, I will let you know how I like them.
I will test them out at work like I did the shirt.
The pants will be for both work and play, so if I like them, I will be ordering more.

Hopefully the hat works out too.

***Strap22*** · 04-21-2009, 09:14 AM

The problem with those pants and shorts besides the buckle, they are not made for serious drinkers....no zipper. Of course if you sit to pee I guess it doesn't matter.

***Corey*** · 04-21-2009, 01:00 PM

Phil, there is a cure for the no zipper part.

***Strap22*** · 04-21-2009, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey

Phil, there is a cure for the no zipper part.

It sucks getting old.......

nieuwendyk-25 · 04-21-2009, 07:47 PM

The North Face! Mountain Jacket and Mountain Light Jacket for rain/snow protection, Denali fleece (my absolute favorite jacket) for insulation layer or light warm jacket. Moisture wick pants with Hyvent pants as the final layer. Most of my camping outerwear I also use for skiing, etc..

I mostly wear Polo cargo shorts for everything no matter how cold it is for camping and everyday wear at home. Being form Texas, I hate being hot so I love it when I get to experience anything cold... so even in Colorado in the fall...I wear shorts and sandals all the time...I never get cold unless I am skiing. I've even given up my waders for fly fishing...I just stand in the water. I like the cut of the Polos and the way they are built to last...I buy them of course at the outlet and on E-bay. I have big upper legs and most pants are too tight on me unless the waist is too big.

I went to IL one time to visit my wifes family....it started sleeting and was about 28 degrees outside...all the "Northerners" were bundled up. I was in my shorts and sandals. We went into a Olive garden and it was like 80 in there! I was sweating through my T-shirt...what is up with that! I really thought they would be more tolerant of the cold.

Like I said, I love my North Face gear and it lasts forever. I have three Denalis just because I wanted different colors. I can't seem to wear them out.

I do however have a Boat House Gortex suit also. It is a great all around suit! If you are not familiar with Boathouse, just watch a College football game. 95% of all College football coaches jackets are made by Boat House...They may say NIKE or ADIDAS on them, but that logo is sewn on because they are sponsored by those companies and have to advertise. The Parkas and pants are made by Boat House and are far superior to anything the sporting good companies make.

I do like some of the Columbia pants, shorts and shirts...and I do have a couple of pair of Columbia shorts....they work better for fishing since the cargo shorts just get in the water and get heavy....the columbia shorts dry really fast and are shorter. I have not been impressed with their fleece, it is too stiff and not soft...pills really bad too.

If it was really cold, I would probably just wear jeans, but I don't like them and they are a little rough on my boys...sweats are more cumfy! I'll take a good hoodie anytime!

nieuwendyk-25 · 04-21-2009, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey

Phil, there is a cure for the no zipper part.

Corey that looks like the women's version to me....

By the way, don't forget your toothbrush when camping!

***Corey*** · 04-22-2009, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nieuwendyk-25

Corey that looks like the women's version to me....

By the way, don't forget your toothbrush when camping!

He he, I just grabbed the first Google pic I found.

I know what you mean about jeans above.
I do not like jeans, quit wearing them years ago.
I like looser fitting lighter clothes.
Plus jeans are worthless if they get wet.

Belize Off Road Team · 04-22-2009, 05:05 AM

When i would go on camp trips into Jasper/Banff i would trust Ripzone snowboarding equipment/clothing. I have used others in the past but non kept me warm while i either slept or was boarding.

refried · 04-22-2009, 10:01 AM

I've become addicted to Arc'teryx gear for about the last 10 years, the quality of thier gear is way above anything that Columbia, Mountain Hardware, or The North Face produces. You can see the difference in the stitching (smaller, tighter stitches, in a straight line) and taping of the seams, You will never find a loose thread on an Arc jacket, If there's not enough thread on a machine to sew an entire jacket the spool gets tossed and replaced with a new one. I spend the winter snowboarding at Mt. Baker and it's known for having some of the worst wet weather (along with 1170 inches of snow in one season), So I need gear that will keep me dry and I never have gotten wet wearing Arc'teryx outerwear. Staying warm and dry is priceless. Westbeach also makes great stuff, When Arc'teryx moved most of thier production to China from Vancouver a few years ago a couple guys left and started thier own company with the same seamstresses who sewed for Arc'.
For baselayers I like Smartwool or Icebreaker, You can wear wool for days (if necessary) and it doesn't get funky . I have a bunch of Patagonia Capilene (and Polystinkaline as it's referred to it the kayak community) and it doesn't get used much at all now, wool works much better.
I've had my TNF Denali jacket for about 20 years now and it's still going strong. It's too warm to wear as a mid layer but it's a great work jacket, or for sitting around the fire.
For everyday workware I like Carhartt, I can abuse it for years and it keeps going.

***Corey*** · 04-22-2009, 01:26 PM

I have heard of Arc'teryx, I will check them out to see if they offer any cool pants/shorts too.

***Corey*** · 04-28-2009, 03:24 PM

Yeah, they fit.
I knew the two shirts I just ordered from Duluth would fit, as the first one did.
The pants came today, and they indeed fit very well.
I hate buying pants where you have to get them by the waist size in inches.
I prefer to order/buy pants/shorts via size such as small, medium, you get the idea.

The hat I got rocks.
The brim is a little big, but it will sure keep the sun off of me.

I also ordered another pair of the Mountain Hardwear Mesa Pants - Men's 30'' Inseam from REI.
A pair I got a few weeks back I had the opposite problem than I did with Deluth.

The Mesas I got earlier from REI were to tight.

The ones that came today fit very well with one size bigger than the returned pair.
These too you order by small, medium, ect, and not by inches.

They are all in the wash right now.
The pants will be great for camping, and maybe try them at work too.
Both have a sunscreen factor built into them.

DocWard · 04-30-2009, 01:45 PM

I tend to wear stuff I have acquired through the military over the years, BDUs that I have picked up at Clothing Sales, along with a fair amount of polypro. I've also got clothing that I have purchased from L.L. Bean, always my "Go To" place for outdoors things, as well as some great pants from 5.11 Tactical that I got while in Kuwait.

***Corey*** · 05-08-2009, 05:44 PM

I got some new stuff from Cabelas today.

Outback Trading Willis Breezer Hat

Columbia® Cliff Lakes™ II Shorts

Cabela's T-Lock Web Belt

As seen in a post above I got the Crusher hat from Duluth.
It is a nice hat, but I do not really care for the 3" brim, it is a little to big for my taste.

The Outback Breezer hat I got today is way nicer, and only $10 more, plus it has a 2" brim.
I must say I look very studly in it

It has oil skin too, so it will shed water.

The shorts I took a gamble on because they sell them as small, medium, large, ect, and I am glad I bought them.
Easier to buy this way than having to go by waist size.

The shorts are nice, I got the olive green ones.
I wanted a second pair in the flax color, but they were out.
Since the shorts worked out to be the correct size for me, I will order a few more.

And yes, the Performance pants from Duluth fit this time, but I like the Mountain Hardware ones a little better.

04-06-2009, 05:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
bigt Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chippawa niagara falls ontario Posts: 3,200	cargo's i love pockets.. also stuff from dick stoprts they have warm hoodies and jacket type things.. for up in canada its COLD.. corey always has the low down on the camping situation... we got some really cool cups that dont spil and keep drinks warm/cold at my work.. they might be called congos but i they are pretty cool. __________________ 1991 HILUX SURF SSR-X turbo diesel right hand drive toyota imported in 2005 from japan, 130,000 km 31 bfg a/t auto current build 1987 LWB suzuki samurai. turning 2 into one.. yota axles welded front to back, yota springs , ifs steering box,, this bad boy will not only eat jeeps but toyotas aswell \m/

04-06-2009, 05:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	I quit wearing jeans years ago. I do not like the heavy stiff cotton, although I do wear cotton pants like the GPS pants I mentioned above. Plus jeans if they get wet, they are useless and can cause hypothermia. The nice thing about nylon or cotton/nylon blend is they dry very quickly if they get wet. I have two pair of nice Columbia nylon cargo shorts I bought years ago. Again, Columbia quit making them. I wish they would quit doing that when they have a good product then quit making it and offer something else that is not as good. I practically live in shorts from April to October with the exception of going to work. The buildings I support now the boss frowns upon wearing shorts at them. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

04-06-2009, 10:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,469	Back when I had time to go camping I used to wear my Tough Duck heavy canvas work pants they are double layered from mid-thigh to mid-calf and can really take a lot of abuse and they stay warm when damp... Also mil surplus stuff... wool sweaters... flannel shirts... cotton t's, fleecies, nylon flight jacket... I try to avoid nylon it does'nt breath well and likes to melt into your skin if it catches fire... __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

04-07-2009, 02:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	Here is a brand some may like. Extra material in all the right places, these are used for mountaineering. Mountain Khakis company Alpine pant Original Mountain pant __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

04-07-2009, 04:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
jjrgr21 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,520	patagonia all the way, their wool series, capaline, and R series. def some of the best made arc teryx is way up on the list too. __________________ 2003 4WD TRD Tacoma 1986 4Runner

04-06-2009, 05:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
Godzilla Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,151	It really all depends on what you are doing when you go camping. I shy away from cotton materials of course and try to focus on layers. Always bring 2 pairs of shoes/boots and the proper socks! Good socks are a must. Not sure what you Am'ricans have, but alot of canucks shop at mec (www.mec.ca) since they have clothing and gear for many applications at a reasonable cost. You may want to check them out since they do have an online store. And if you like carharts, check out dickies instead. Same product, sometimes better, and much cheaper.

04-07-2009, 11:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
jjrgr21 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,520	for work pants MK destroys carhart, carharts have a breakin, and when they are broken in they're already worn out. MK's are already comfy, and burly tough. my only complaint is limited size. i'm 6'2 and 155. but MK's are leaps and bounds better. __________________ 2003 4WD TRD Tacoma 1986 4Runner

04-07-2009, 11:15 AM	#11 (permalink)
jjrgr21 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,520	corey, mountain hardware has some nylon pants that are great, and can be found @ STP for around $30 __________________ 2003 4WD TRD Tacoma 1986 4Runner

04-21-2009, 08:46 AM	#13 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	An update to this thread: A few weeks back I ordered some clothing from Duluth Trading, their Rip Stop Performance pants and shorts, both items I shipped back as I swam in them. I also got their CoolMax short sleeved shirt which I kept. I wore the shirt to work yesterday, one of the hottest days yet here in Western Washington. The shirt rocks, it kept me very cool, and not clammy like an all cotton T shirt which I normally wear to work. I work outside all the time at work, and I can appreciate a shirt that I do not get clammy sweaty in. Here is the shirt. Short Sleeve CoolMax Action Shirt I like it so well I ordered two more this morning, and I also ordered the pants again in a size smaller. Performance Ripstop Pants I decided to try one of their hats too for keeping the sun off my noggin'. The Crusher If the pants fit, I will let you know how I like them. I will test them out at work like I did the shirt. The pants will be for both work and play, so if I like them, I will be ordering more. Hopefully the hat works out too. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

04-21-2009, 09:14 AM	#14 (permalink)
*Strap22* Sponsoring Vendor Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 1,328	The problem with those pants and shorts besides the buckle, they are not made for serious drinkers....no zipper. Of course if you sit to pee I guess it doesn't matter. __________________ *Phil* Toyota & TRD Parts Wholesale www.FJCruiserOffroad.com www.trdparts4u.com www.toyotapartsales.com Authorized ARB/OldManEmu Dealer Authorized *OASIS* Air Deflators Dealer

04-21-2009, 01:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	Phil, there is a cure for the no zipper part. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

04-21-2009, 07:47 PM	#17 (permalink)
nieuwendyk-25 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Republic Texas Posts: 872	The North Face! Mountain Jacket and Mountain Light Jacket for rain/snow protection, Denali fleece (my absolute favorite jacket) for insulation layer or light warm jacket. Moisture wick pants with Hyvent pants as the final layer. Most of my camping outerwear I also use for skiing, etc.. I mostly wear Polo cargo shorts for everything no matter how cold it is for camping and everyday wear at home. Being form Texas, I hate being hot so I love it when I get to experience anything cold... so even in Colorado in the fall...I wear shorts and sandals all the time...I never get cold unless I am skiing. I've even given up my waders for fly fishing...I just stand in the water. I like the cut of the Polos and the way they are built to last...I buy them of course at the outlet and on E-bay. I have big upper legs and most pants are too tight on me unless the waist is too big. I went to IL one time to visit my wifes family....it started sleeting and was about 28 degrees outside...all the "Northerners" were bundled up. I was in my shorts and sandals. We went into a Olive garden and it was like 80 in there! I was sweating through my T-shirt...what is up with that! I really thought they would be more tolerant of the cold. Like I said, I love my North Face gear and it lasts forever. I have three Denalis just because I wanted different colors. I can't seem to wear them out. I do however have a Boat House Gortex suit also. It is a great all around suit! If you are not familiar with Boathouse, just watch a College football game. 95% of all College football coaches jackets are made by Boat House...They may say NIKE or ADIDAS on them, but that logo is sewn on because they are sponsored by those companies and have to advertise. The Parkas and pants are made by Boat House and are far superior to anything the sporting good companies make. I do like some of the Columbia pants, shorts and shirts...and I do have a couple of pair of Columbia shorts....they work better for fishing since the cargo shorts just get in the water and get heavy....the columbia shorts dry really fast and are shorter. I have not been impressed with their fleece, it is too stiff and not soft...pills really bad too. If it was really cold, I would probably just wear jeans, but I don't like them and they are a little rough on my boys...sweats are more cumfy! I'll take a good hoodie anytime! __________________ DMN, D.D.S. "DOC" 2000 4Runner SR5 4WD- RADIANT RED, Toyota E-Locker, BFG AT's, Yakima Rocket Box, Toyota Ski Rack, Alpine Amp, iPhone interface, Focal 6.5" Components Front & REAR!, Monster Wiring, Husky Liners, Magellan Color GPS, Bilstein Sucks...I mean Shocks 2005 Sequoia SR5 4WD- BRILLIANT WHITE, Yakima RB, Husky Liners, 10.4" LCD/DVD Player, iPod interface, BFG AT's 1986 Jeep CJ-7- Hard & Soft Tops, Alpine CD, iPod interface, Polk Speakers, 31" BFG AT's, Bosch Lights, Mopar MPI

04-22-2009, 05:05 AM	#20 (permalink)
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04-22-2009, 10:01 AM	#21 (permalink)
refried Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Republic of Cascadia Posts: 170	I've become addicted to Arc'teryx gear for about the last 10 years, the quality of thier gear is way above anything that Columbia, Mountain Hardware, or The North Face produces. You can see the difference in the stitching (smaller, tighter stitches, in a straight line) and taping of the seams, You will never find a loose thread on an Arc jacket, If there's not enough thread on a machine to sew an entire jacket the spool gets tossed and replaced with a new one. I spend the winter snowboarding at Mt. Baker and it's known for having some of the worst wet weather (along with 1170 inches of snow in one season), So I need gear that will keep me dry and I never have gotten wet wearing Arc'teryx outerwear. Staying warm and dry is priceless. Westbeach also makes great stuff, When Arc'teryx moved most of thier production to China from Vancouver a few years ago a couple guys left and started thier own company with the same seamstresses who sewed for Arc'. For baselayers I like Smartwool or Icebreaker, You can wear wool for days (if necessary) and it doesn't get funky . I have a bunch of Patagonia Capilene (and Polystinkaline as it's referred to it the kayak community) and it doesn't get used much at all now, wool works much better. I've had my TNF Denali jacket for about 20 years now and it's still going strong. It's too warm to wear as a mid layer but it's a great work jacket, or for sitting around the fire. For everyday workware I like Carhartt, I can abuse it for years and it keeps going. __________________ 1981 Shortbed 4x4 Buick 231 V6, Turbo 350 4" springs 35x12.50 15 Bfg MT 300,000+ miles

04-22-2009, 01:26 PM	#22 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	I have heard of Arc'teryx, I will check them out to see if they offer any cool pants/shorts too. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

04-28-2009, 03:24 PM	#23 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	Yeah, they fit. I knew the two shirts I just ordered from Duluth would fit, as the first one did. The pants came today, and they indeed fit very well. I hate buying pants where you have to get them by the waist size in inches. I prefer to order/buy pants/shorts via size such as small, medium, you get the idea. The hat I got rocks. The brim is a little big, but it will sure keep the sun off of me. I also ordered another pair of the Mountain Hardwear Mesa Pants - Men's 30'' Inseam from REI. A pair I got a few weeks back I had the opposite problem than I did with Deluth. The Mesas I got earlier from REI were to tight. The ones that came today fit very well with one size bigger than the returned pair. These too you order by small, medium, ect, and not by inches. They are all in the wash right now. The pants will be great for camping, and maybe try them at work too. Both have a sunscreen factor built into them. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

04-30-2009, 01:45 PM	#24 (permalink)
DocWard Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 45	I tend to wear stuff I have acquired through the military over the years, BDUs that I have picked up at Clothing Sales, along with a fair amount of polypro. I've also got clothing that I have purchased from L.L. Bean, always my "Go To" place for outdoors things, as well as some great pants from 5.11 Tactical that I got while in Kuwait. __________________ Courage is being scared to death… and saddling up anyway - John Wayne.

05-08-2009, 05:44 PM	#25 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 26,071	I got some new stuff from Cabelas today. Outback Trading Willis Breezer Hat Columbia® Cliff Lakes™ II Shorts Cabela's T-Lock Web Belt As seen in a post above I got the Crusher hat from Duluth. It is a nice hat, but I do not really care for the 3" brim, it is a little to big for my taste. The Outback Breezer hat I got today is way nicer, and only $10 more, plus it has a 2" brim. I must say I look very studly in it It has oil skin too, so it will shed water. The shorts I took a gamble on because they sell them as small, medium, large, ect, and I am glad I bought them. Easier to buy this way than having to go by waist size. The shorts are nice, I got the olive green ones. I wanted a second pair in the flax color, but they were out. Since the shorts worked out to be the correct size for me, I will order a few more. And yes, the Performance pants from Duluth fit this time, but I like the Mountain Hardware ones a little better. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser Built for 4wheelin', expedition, camping, and overlanding use PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse Part II ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge Blog About Roof Top Tents ☺ FJC Magazines Online Review Of My Tent ☺ 2009 Specialized Rockhopper Pro

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