SAS Build-up

YeloSub7 · 03-10-2008, 06:37 PM

Well I might as well start this thread now...

SAS and RLS on my '90 4Runner 22re 5speed

3" TG front SAS
4" TG rear leaf swap
4.88 thirds from Mattb124 (thanks mat!)
Detroit Tru-Trac front
Precision Gear Limited Slip rear
33x12.5x15 GT Radial M/T
15x8 steelies (3.5" backspacing)

My truck as it sits right now, stock on 31's

'85 4runner front axle...

33's

my freshly painted steelies...

now just waiting for the TG delivery

PoleVaulter95 · 03-10-2008, 06:39 PM

i cant wait for this. I've been wanting to sas but most i see are up to 35's. and i think 33's will be great. looking forward to measurement heights. Subscribed.

**UKMyers** · 03-10-2008, 06:43 PM

Look up Mark P he has a sweet set up on 33's.

YeloSub7 · 03-10-2008, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoleVaulter95

i cant wait for this. I've been wanting to sas but most i see are up to 35's. and i think 33's will be great. looking forward to measurement heights. Subscribed.

Ya I had a '94 4runner on 33's with ifs lift and like the height, even though this will actually be more like 5in front what I've heard. It is going to be my daily also for about a couple years, so wanna keep it low for now. Don't drive much or far anyways. Will go bigger later on (of course), but for now we'll see how this turns out...

PoleVaulter95 · 03-10-2008, 06:47 PM

thanks UKMyers. you got a sweet setup too. that last pic of your 4runner sittin on a trailer behind a new tacoma is depressiong. (but in a good way)

PoleVaulter95 · 03-10-2008, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YeloSub7

Ya I had a '94 4runner on 33's with ifs lift and like the height, even though this will actually be more like 5in front what I've heard. It is going to be my daily also for about a couple years, so wanna keep it low for now. Don't drive much or far anyways. Will go bigger later on (of course), but for now we'll see how this turns out...

well i hope its not too big, because my 4runner is my daily driver. lol

YeloSub7 · 03-10-2008, 06:53 PM

like I said I don't drive much anyways...

**UKMyers** · 03-10-2008, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoleVaulter95

thanks UKMyers. you got a sweet setup too. that last pic of your 4runner sittin on a trailer behind a new tacoma is depressiong. (but in a good way)

What do ya mean?

PoleVaulter95 · 03-10-2008, 07:04 PM

its a beautiful sight. a 4runner fully built on a trailer pulled by a new toyota is depressing to anyone who cant afford it.

Marc P · 03-10-2008, 07:11 PM

Sounds like a nice build. I think the 3inch springs will not work well for you...especially if you ever put a winch up front.

I see you have a 22RE, so it may be ok for a while. I just bought some 5inch springs because my 4in ones have gone flat with the addition of a bumper and winch.

PoleVaulter95 · 03-10-2008, 07:17 PM

Marc P you are saying that a 3vze bumper and winch will be too much for the 3inch springs? do you feel with the larger springs your tires will appear too small?

Marc P · 03-10-2008, 07:32 PM

Not really, they will settle. If it is real bad I can remove a leaf also.

Here is how mine looks now...I figure the 5inch springs will pick up the front about 2 inches

yotaman · 03-10-2008, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc P

Not really, they will settle. If it is real bad I can remove a leaf also.

Here is how mine looks now...I figure the 5inch springs will pick up the front about 2 inches

Man that truck is tall right now and you plan to go taller?

I had 4" TG springs up front with 35" and I think my truck is TALLLL. I'm moving up to 38"-40" Iroks and 4+" wider axles and plan to lower my truck at the same time. Some

will happen of course.

YeloSub7 · 03-10-2008, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc P

Sounds like a nice build. I think the 3inch springs will not work well for you...especially if you ever put a winch up front.

I see you have a 22RE, so it may be ok for a while. I just bought some 5inch springs because my 4in ones have gone flat with the addition of a bumper and winch.

I want to stick with the 33's though, and I won't be able to afford a bumper and winch anytime soon anyways

But seriously? IMO I think your rig is too tall with the 33's, at least for what I want. But it is something to consider, thanks...

Marc P · 03-10-2008, 08:26 PM

That pic is before I added the 80lb winch. I also have nothing in the back. I usually carry my tools and recovery gear

Mine is not very tall....just that pic makes it look big

this may give a better perspective

4RunnerKid · 03-10-2008, 09:02 PM

SAS 4Runners all look tall. it's just the nature of an SUV. being as narrow as Toyotas are doesn't help either. the TG 3" springs usually run tall, from what i've seen. i've also read that they have the second highest spring rate of all the TG springs too (5" HDs are first). if you really want it to be low get a set of springs made, go the JY route, or pull some leaves. pulling leaves is going to kill your spring rate, custom springs are going to be costly, and JY springs are kind of a trial and error thing.

i've found that the 5" HDs are perfect for my rig. they sit a little taller than i'd like to be (26" frame height on 35s) but the spring rate is perfect (i like to pre-run/go-fast a little too), shackle angle is perfect, and they hold up to the V6 weight and my heavy bumper.

whatever you do, good luck. it's going to be tough to get the best of both worlds, but i'm sure with enough research and tinkering you'll find something. maybe look into a stock front spring with some leaves added?

YeloSub7 · 03-10-2008, 10:05 PM

Thanks for the input guys! All we can do now is wait for the TG shipment and see how this baby turns out

YeloSub7 · 03-13-2008, 08:06 PM

The delivery came! Hopefully get a good start on it this weekend! Will post some pics as things happen...

PoleVaulter95 · 03-13-2008, 08:11 PM

Good luck cant wait to watch this unfold. be sure to take alot of pictures (and as im sure ive said measurements!).

YeloSub7 · 03-16-2008, 09:06 PM

here is a bit of progress I made over the weekend...

rebuilt knuckles

axle cut and cleaned up

new rotors

my buddy helping me with some welding

primed axle

painted axle!!! (sorry pic taken at night)

hopefully will get the SAS mostly done tomorrow...

fillsrunner4 · 03-16-2008, 10:06 PM

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03-10-2008, 06:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 850	SAS Build-up Well I might as well start this thread now... SAS and RLS on my '90 4Runner 22re 5speed 3" TG front SAS 4" TG rear leaf swap 4.88 thirds from Mattb124 (thanks mat!) Detroit Tru-Trac front Precision Gear Limited Slip rear 33x12.5x15 GT Radial M/T 15x8 steelies (3.5" backspacing) My truck as it sits right now, stock on 31's '85 4runner front axle... 33's my freshly painted steelies... now just waiting for the TG delivery __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold) Last edited by YeloSub7 : 03-10-2008 at 07:55 PM.

03-10-2008, 06:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
PoleVaulter95 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 229	i cant wait for this. I've been wanting to sas but most i see are up to 35's. and i think 33's will be great. looking forward to measurement heights. Subscribed. __________________ 95 4runner 3.0 auto downey torsion bars and hd springs 32 khumos and way to much spray paint

03-10-2008, 06:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
PoleVaulter95 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 229	thanks UKMyers. you got a sweet setup too. that last pic of your 4runner sittin on a trailer behind a new tacoma is depressiong. (but in a good way) __________________ 95 4runner 3.0 auto downey torsion bars and hd springs 32 khumos and way to much spray paint

03-10-2008, 06:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 850	like I said I don't drive much anyways... __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

03-10-2008, 07:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
PoleVaulter95 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 229	its a beautiful sight. a 4runner fully built on a trailer pulled by a new toyota is depressing to anyone who cant afford it. __________________ 95 4runner 3.0 auto downey torsion bars and hd springs 32 khumos and way to much spray paint

03-10-2008, 07:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
Marc P Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Santee, CA Posts: 2,732	Sounds like a nice build. I think the 3inch springs will not work well for you...especially if you ever put a winch up front. I see you have a 22RE, so it may be ok for a while. I just bought some 5inch springs because my 4in ones have gone flat with the addition of a bumper and winch. __________________ 1995 4Runner---SAS with goodies

03-10-2008, 07:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
PoleVaulter95 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 229	Marc P you are saying that a 3vze bumper and winch will be too much for the 3inch springs? do you feel with the larger springs your tires will appear too small? __________________ 95 4runner 3.0 auto downey torsion bars and hd springs 32 khumos and way to much spray paint

03-10-2008, 07:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Marc P Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Santee, CA Posts: 2,732	Not really, they will settle. If it is real bad I can remove a leaf also. Here is how mine looks now...I figure the 5inch springs will pick up the front about 2 inches __________________ 1995 4Runner---SAS with goodies

03-10-2008, 08:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
Marc P Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Santee, CA Posts: 2,732	That pic is before I added the 80lb winch. I also have nothing in the back. I usually carry my tools and recovery gear Mine is not very tall....just that pic makes it look big this may give a better perspective __________________ 1995 4Runner---SAS with goodies Last edited by Marc P : 03-10-2008 at 08:28 PM.

03-10-2008, 09:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
4RunnerKid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sac + SLO, CA Posts: 974	SAS 4Runners all look tall. it's just the nature of an SUV. being as narrow as Toyotas are doesn't help either. the TG 3" springs usually run tall, from what i've seen. i've also read that they have the second highest spring rate of all the TG springs too (5" HDs are first). if you really want it to be low get a set of springs made, go the JY route, or pull some leaves. pulling leaves is going to kill your spring rate, custom springs are going to be costly, and JY springs are kind of a trial and error thing. i've found that the 5" HDs are perfect for my rig. they sit a little taller than i'd like to be (26" frame height on 35s) but the spring rate is perfect (i like to pre-run/go-fast a little too), shackle angle is perfect, and they hold up to the V6 weight and my heavy bumper. whatever you do, good luck. it's going to be tough to get the best of both worlds, but i'm sure with enough research and tinkering you'll find something. maybe look into a stock front spring with some leaves added? __________________ -Mikey- 1993 4Runner ~ TG 5" HD/RUF front \| All Pro ~4" rear \| 37" Krawlers \| bomb-proof front housing \| Marlin UM06s \| 12" Fox 2.0s \| Aussie front \| Lock-Right rear \| 5-speed swap \| TG 4.7s \| 5.29s \| bumpers \| sliders \| t-case skid \| K&N intake \| Flowmaster 40 \| Optima red top \| clear lenses \| PIAA 1400s \| KCs \| LED rock lights \| Midland CB \| Firestik 4' antenna \| PIAA superwhites \| stereo Polygoats 4-Wheel Drive Club -> check it yo

03-10-2008, 10:05 PM	#17 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 850	Thanks for the input guys! All we can do now is wait for the TG shipment and see how this baby turns out __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

03-13-2008, 08:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 850	The delivery came! Hopefully get a good start on it this weekend! Will post some pics as things happen... __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

03-13-2008, 08:11 PM	#19 (permalink)
PoleVaulter95 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 229	Good luck cant wait to watch this unfold. be sure to take alot of pictures (and as im sure ive said measurements!). __________________ 95 4runner 3.0 auto downey torsion bars and hd springs 32 khumos and way to much spray paint

03-16-2008, 09:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 850	here is a bit of progress I made over the weekend... rebuilt knuckles axle cut and cleaned up new rotors my buddy helping me with some welding primed axle painted axle!!! (sorry pic taken at night) hopefully will get the SAS mostly done tomorrow... __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

03-16-2008, 10:06 PM	#21 (permalink)
fillsrunner4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sammamish, wa Posts: 2,311	You shou