What is the diff? W 56, R150, 151
01-13-2006, 07:09 AM
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What is the diff? W 56, R150, 151
I have a 93 a/t and planning on doing a m/t swap. I have found some info about these transmissions but I am stumped as to the details about them. What are the differences and similarities? Which one should I be looking for?
Also, There is someone local who has a m/t (don't know what type yet) from a 4 cyl but he says I would need a bell housing for a 6 cyl for it to work with my truck. Then I read a post about a guy who did a a/t to m/t swap and he did not need to replace the bell housing at all. Can anyone who knows what they are talking about shed light on this subject?
Also, There is someone local who has a m/t (don't know what type yet) from a 4 cyl but he says I would need a bell housing for a 6 cyl for it to work with my truck. Then I read a post about a guy who did a a/t to m/t swap and he did not need to replace the bell housing at all. Can anyone who knows what they are talking about shed light on this subject?
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Hmm.. I did look previously at Marlin site but somehow missed that information. Thanks.
I believe this means that the R150F is the most compatible 5 speed with the 93 3.0. What about gear ratio?
"We can rebuild the stock 3.83 first gear with a 4.31 first gear from a R151F turbo tranny
First gear ratio is 13% lower than stock ratio (4.31 vs. 3.83).
Cost $385."
Does this mean more tourque or lower end tourque? (Or maybe it has nothing to do with tourque at all) What I'm asking is, what would I experience with a 13% lower gear ratio than stock?
I believe this means that the R150F is the most compatible 5 speed with the 93 3.0. What about gear ratio?
"We can rebuild the stock 3.83 first gear with a 4.31 first gear from a R151F turbo tranny
First gear ratio is 13% lower than stock ratio (4.31 vs. 3.83).
Cost $385."
Does this mean more tourque or lower end tourque? (Or maybe it has nothing to do with tourque at all) What I'm asking is, what would I experience with a 13% lower gear ratio than stock?
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If you have a V6, you can only put a 150 or 151 behind your engine. There is no bellhousing to adapt a W56/G52 to your engine. There is a bellhousing to adapt a 150/151 to a 22rx engine that came factory behind the 22ret.
The 151 is Toyota's best tranny, IMHO. Lower first gear, 23 spline, no adapter needed to mate to a 4-cyl, gear driven tcase.
The 151 is Toyota's best tranny, IMHO. Lower first gear, 23 spline, no adapter needed to mate to a 4-cyl, gear driven tcase.
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Originally Posted by Schooler
I have a 93 a/t and planning on doing a m/t swap. I have found some info about these transmissions but I am stumped as to the details about them. What are the differences and similarities? Which one should I be looking for?
Also, There is someone local who has a m/t (don't know what type yet) from a 4 cyl but he says I would need a bell housing for a 6 cyl for it to work with my truck. Then I read a post about a guy who did a a/t to m/t swap and he did not need to replace the bell housing at all. Can anyone who knows what they are talking about shed light on this subject?
Also, There is someone local who has a m/t (don't know what type yet) from a 4 cyl but he says I would need a bell housing for a 6 cyl for it to work with my truck. Then I read a post about a guy who did a a/t to m/t swap and he did not need to replace the bell housing at all. Can anyone who knows what they are talking about shed light on this subject?
The bellhousing for a manual if different, it has to have provision for the clutch for example.
I suspect what he said was that he didn't swap bellhousings from one trans to the other - he probably took out the auto w/bellhousing and put in the manual w/bellhousing.
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Originally Posted by Flamedx4
Also, I wouldn't believe that bit about not replacing the bellhousing.
The bellhousing for a manual if different, it has to have provision for the clutch for example.
I suspect what he said was that he didn't swap bellhousings from one trans to the other - he probably took out the auto w/bellhousing and put in the manual w/bellhousing.
The bellhousing for a manual if different, it has to have provision for the clutch for example.
I suspect what he said was that he didn't swap bellhousings from one trans to the other - he probably took out the auto w/bellhousing and put in the manual w/bellhousing.
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