2+2=4Runner

hello everyone, its been a while since I posted anything on here. I have an 88 4runner that has the 3vze in it that I've had for about 3 years now. It is currently in decent working condition, except for the rusty frame and body. Over this past weekend, I picked up another 88 4runner, with the 22re? in it. It is from Canada and is mostly rust free, frame is mint, previous owner sprayed oil on the frame and kept it in good shape. only rust is on the front fenders, minor, and a little under the rear fenders, also minor. Interior smells like dog, and while my cleaning frenzy, i noticed that the ECU says 22r on it. did they use the same ecu for the 22r and 22re? it is definitely efi engine, sticker is peeling off and faded, so that is no help. My real question for this post is, that I am going to most likely be using the 3vze truck for parts, and was wondering if I could/it is worth swapping out the rear axles for better gear ratio. what about the transmission, 5spd in both trucks, or the transfer case? Anything else that I might want to think about swapping over? thank you for your help

2+2=4Runner

anybody have answers to these questions?

MudHippy

You want to swap everything you can from the one with the 3VZ-E, including the engine IMO. Most things powertrain related, including both the front and rear axles, will be bigger/better/stronger(in one way or another). If the axles have a different gear ratio, and that appeals to you, then why would it not be worth it? It's worth it either way is what I'm getting at.

However, getting anything to bolt up from the engine rearward, will almost certainly require a trick or two. That's part of why I'm saying you should swap everything(motor included).The ones that will definitely cost you extra money in modifications to run behind a 22R-E are the transmission and transfer case. And possibly the rear prop shaft. You can swap the companion flanges on the rear axles to make them match a different prop shaft bolt hole pattern though, if you need to. That's no biggie. Hell, sometimes you'll find a rear prop shaft behind a 22R-E with a V6/Turbo bolt hole pattern(so I've been told).

85TurboRunner

I'd have to disagree with swapping over the 3vze but thats just me.

As for the axles, if the gearing between the 2 trucks is different you will have to swap front and rear diffs.

Don't need to switch out the actual axle housings or axles themselves.

About the only thing worth anything on the 3vze truck is the v6 rear 3rd member.

Odds are both trucks have 4:10 gears.

MudHippy

The R150 transmission is WAY stronger than anything found behind a 22R-E. And the transfer case has lower low range gearing too. The front axle also has larger carrier bearings(for a reason). I still stand behind what I said. But whatever...not gonna argue with the 22R-E fan club.

Anyhow, what I forgot to mention was the fact that a 22R doesn't have a ECU.

EDIT: Just checked, ALL 88 4Runners have 4.10s, except for those with a 22R-Es and automatic transmissions which have 4.30s. But always refer to the axle code for verification, because it's bound to be the most accurate source of such information.

stngllhm

as far as if you have a 22r or 22re if yours is efi it is the 22re. The 22r is the carb version of the same moter

85TurboRunner

I may be wrong but doesn't the R150f have a chain drive t-case and a higher 1st gear then a w56?

As for strength I dunno but you never hear too much of them being swapped into 22r or 22re rigs.

Now the R151 is a different story.