advice for 2nd gen 4runner suspension

51 · 10-09-2007, 05:03 PM

I am a newbie to this site and i was looking for some advice about my 2nd gen 4runner it is a auto 4x4 and i want to get rid of my saggy but. nay advice is helpful to me. any thoughts on a 1"BL
please let me know if any one is selling anything that will help.
thanks everyone.....

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fillsrunner4 · 10-09-2007, 05:30 PM

Welcome

theres plenty of small lifts you could get for the back to get rid of the sag. do a few searches about coil lift blocks. youll find tons of info here. Sorry but asfar as the ifs and coil rears im not to much help cause i did a leaf sring conversion and a sas on my 2nd gen.

Brad. · 10-09-2007, 05:37 PM

I just got my truck back up to normal height with some new coil springs.
I bought Moog cargo coils. You can get them for about $70-$80 bucks on different auto parts sites. So far im very happy with them, the sag is gone and it a much more aggresive stance, and it rides better not so bouncy.
If you have some questions or want to see some pictures hit me up!.

Victor · 10-09-2007, 05:57 PM

sent a PM

RobD · 10-09-2007, 07:59 PM

I went with the Old Man Emu rear springs. They added about 2" of height to the back end. The truck actually looks level now and with me, my 3 kids, and our cargo, it stays about the same and rides very nicely on the highway. I highly recommend them.

jfreisner · 10-09-2007, 08:02 PM

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94Runner4x4 · 10-09-2007, 08:26 PM

I need to do the same thing to my saggy rear end, but I just haven't had the time to get around to it, I've been looking at either OME coils or Downey HD, I've heard good things about both so it's kind of a flip of a coin as to which I go with.

tc · 10-09-2007, 08:29 PM

I used the Eibach coils, came out great!

elripster · 10-09-2007, 08:41 PM

I have coil spacers and air shocks on the rear suspension. The spacers matched the rear suspension to the front (ball joint spacers) and the shock compensate for heavy load when I need them without decreasing flex in the way stiffer springs will.

Frank

94Runner4x4 · 10-09-2007, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tc

I used the Eibach coils, came out great!

Where did you get the Eibach coils, I just did a search for them online and it took me to Auto Parts Warehouse? But i can only find the 3.5" lift ones.

Flygtenstein · 10-09-2007, 09:08 PM

Just do this:

94Runner4x4 · 10-09-2007, 09:13 PM

I would and will do that eventually, it's in my plans, but right now i can't even find time to put coil springs in and with class everyday of the week it would be nearly impossible to find time for that.

44Runner · 10-10-2007, 07:40 AM

You can find time for swapping coils trust me. Not a long job.

Someone said Downey HD or OME. Having run both I say stick with OME. Another option would be a coil spacer. Would save you some cash and there isn't a down side unless you wanted to change spring rates.

51 · 10-10-2007, 09:09 AM

does any one know about 4crawler or Roger Brown? i have read alot about his products.. any one selling some coil spacers?
94 4runner 4x4 im in the same boat as you i have had my runner for almost a year and its time to lift the rear but school and work is always in the way
thanks everyone for the feedback il keep you all posted on what i do to the rear end....
oh yeah dude who did the leaf spring swap..i would love to do that to my rig but way to much money(i couldnt even afford the fox shocks)

do i need to switch the shocks out with 1.5" of rear lift??? or if i crank on the torsion bars in the front???

**Tofer** · 10-10-2007, 09:55 AM

First welcome to Yotatech!

a) yes 4crawler (the company) and Rodger Brown (the man) is loved around here. www.4crawler.com is a GREAT site. very fast response, and he knows his

b) thats a lil more than a leaf spring swap.

c) stock shocks will work but its always better to upgrade when you lift. lots of people here LOVE OME, when i had them i wasnt that impressed. i am much happier with my Procomp (procrap as people like to call it) ES9000s much stiffer, and helluva lot cheaper.

d) I just got my business license and will be setting up accounts with Trail-gear (www.trail-gear.com) here shortly. let me know if you need any thing from them, the dealership or baxters/autozone.

e) where in the NW are you?

and just forewarning......
how mine looked when i got her:

and after spending a 2 years on yotatech:

51 · 10-10-2007, 01:44 PM

i am in the port orchard area kinda by tahula. i hear tahula is sweet but i have never been in the trails. just the puddles... let me know when you get your lic. set up
you are in tacoma

**Tofer** · 10-10-2007, 01:56 PM

ya i'm in tacoma.... you have a PM

fillsrunner4 · 10-10-2007, 02:01 PM

ide have to vouge with tofer after doing alot of searching and reading it ended up taking me above and beyond just a mild lift and what i thought even posible. (sas, rear leafspring swap, lockers, dual tcases, motor swap + auto to manual conversion, really the list will keep on going and it wount fit on just one page however in the case of this thread it sounds like whats wanted at the moment is making the truck look better not necisarily all out rock crawler. IMO you have to do what you want now or the time may never happen. lift that rear. it may take a few hours but thats what the weekend is for. your enjoyment

do your homework and when it comes time to do the next big project youll be ready for it.

By the way i live in Sammamish, wa outside seattle if you need some help sometime let me know ive got plenty of tools to do just about anything

51 · 10-10-2007, 02:09 PM

sweet it is good to know there are people in wa. thanks for the offer of help i probibly will be pming you some time caus im sure i will get stuck trying to figure out what the hell i just did..thanks

tc · 10-10-2007, 05:11 PM

I got the Eibach springs from NOPI. I think they're listed as 1.5" lift.

Since all you're really doing is putting the truck "back to stock" the shocks will be fine.

10-09-2007, 05:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
fillsrunner4 Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Woodinville, wa Posts: 2,909	Welcome theres plenty of small lifts you could get for the back to get rid of the sag. do a few searches about coil lift blocks. youll find tons of info here. Sorry but asfar as the ifs and coil rears im not to much help cause i did a leaf sring conversion and a sas on my 2nd gen. __________________ 94' SAS, 39" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, Chevy 4.3L V6, 5spd swap, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly, custom skids, sliders, Chop, Bob, & so much more. 97 White 4runner, 5spd, 3.4 V6, leather. DD FOR NOW Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Fillsrunner4 3.4crawler Build Thread Fillsrunner4.3 crawler (Part Two) build thread OLYMPIC 4X4 SUPPLY 360-568-7728 ext. 19 http://www.oly4x4.com/

10-09-2007, 05:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
Brad. Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 130	I just got my truck back up to normal height with some new coil springs. I bought Moog cargo coils. You can get them for about $70-$80 bucks on different auto parts sites. So far im very happy with them, the sag is gone and it a much more aggresive stance, and it rides better not so bouncy. If you have some questions or want to see some pictures hit me up!. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander, 3.4L, 5-Speed, E-Locker ISR Mod, Wab-Fab Quick Disconnects, 265/75 Duratracs, Thule Rack '93 4Runner SR5, 3.0L, Auto, 4X4, SOLD

10-09-2007, 05:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Victor Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 1,705	sent a PM __________________ "Turtle" - Green 94 4Runner Looks like one and about as fast JDM altimeter/clinometer, 2002 Sport wheels, 265/75r16 MT/R, , OME stabilizer, BJ Spacers, Cruiser Coils, removed sway bars, rattle can paint for all that peeling clearcoat! Lockright front and rear.

10-09-2007, 07:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
RobD Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,244	I went with the Old Man Emu rear springs. They added about 2" of height to the back end. The truck actually looks level now and with me, my 3 kids, and our cargo, it stays about the same and rides very nicely on the highway. I highly recommend them. __________________ Replacement: 1999 4Runner Limited, eLocker, Pioneer head unit, JL Audio amplifier, Pioneer speakers, and XM Satellite radio Retired: 1991 4Runner, 3.4 5VZFE swap, OME suspension, 31" Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs, Pioneer head unit, JL Audio amplifier, Pioneer and Infinity speakers, XM Satellite radio

10-09-2007, 08:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
jfreisner Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Leawood, KS/Fayetteville, AR Posts: 579	http://www.yotatech.com/f31/cheapest...trucks-124467/ http://www.yotatech.com/f120/newbie-...mation-121264/ __________________ Sold the 4Runners.... 2000 ECSB z71 Silverado -Superlift 6-7.5" -35" Mud Grapplers -16x10 Weld Super Single II's -Straight Pipes w/ 5" Tips -Hypertech

10-09-2007, 08:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
94Runner4x4 Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lawrenceville/Statesboro, GA Posts: 625	I need to do the same thing to my saggy rear end, but I just haven't had the time to get around to it, I've been looking at either OME coils or Downey HD, I've heard good things about both so it's kind of a flip of a coin as to which I go with. __________________ 2004 4Runner SR5 4WD: 16x8 American Racing Wheels powder coated Harley Davidson Black, 32% (State Legal) Tint all the way around, Coleman Safari Roof Rack, Removed Mudflaps and Running Boards, Blacked out emblems, TRD Off-Road Stickers, Fog Light (Anytime) Mod, Full Time 12v Power Mod Soon to add: Daystar 2.5/1.5 or 3/2 Kit. FOR SALE-93 4Runner 4x4

10-09-2007, 08:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,875	I used the Eibach coils, came out great! __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

10-09-2007, 08:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
elripster Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,352	I have coil spacers and air shocks on the rear suspension. The spacers matched the rear suspension to the front (ball joint spacers) and the shock compensate for heavy load when I need them without decreasing flex in the way stiffer springs will. Frank __________________ 1985 FJ-60, 31's, roof rack, winch/bumper, casette deck. Sold but still in the family: 1994 4runner, 3.0, auto, 5.71's, Truetrac (rear), 33's, BJ spacers, Coil spacers, air shocks, D-ring anchors, 4Crawler F/R swaybar discos, Marlin rear bumper. www.sdori.com

10-09-2007, 09:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
Flygtenstein Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 4,216	Just do this: __________________ Ease on down the road.

10-09-2007, 09:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
94Runner4x4 Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lawrenceville/Statesboro, GA Posts: 625	I would and will do that eventually, it's in my plans, but right now i can't even find time to put coil springs in and with class everyday of the week it would be nearly impossible to find time for that. __________________ 2004 4Runner SR5 4WD: 16x8 American Racing Wheels powder coated Harley Davidson Black, 32% (State Legal) Tint all the way around, Coleman Safari Roof Rack, Removed Mudflaps and Running Boards, Blacked out emblems, TRD Off-Road Stickers, Fog Light (Anytime) Mod, Full Time 12v Power Mod Soon to add: Daystar 2.5/1.5 or 3/2 Kit. FOR SALE-93 4Runner 4x4

10-10-2007, 07:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
44Runner Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mount Pleasant, SC Posts: 993	You can find time for swapping coils trust me. Not a long job. Someone said Downey HD or OME. Having run both I say stick with OME. Another option would be a coil spacer. Would save you some cash and there isn't a down side unless you wanted to change spring rates. __________________ Buggy in progress - 22RE on pane, A340, 4.7, 8"s, 4Ds 1989 4Runner 3.slow 5spd SAS 4.30s 255/85/16s 2005 Ram 2500 4x4 CTD 6spd QC SWB

10-10-2007, 09:09 AM	#14 (permalink)
51 Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 10	does any one know about 4crawler or Roger Brown? i have read alot about his products.. any one selling some coil spacers? 94 4runner 4x4 im in the same boat as you i have had my runner for almost a year and its time to lift the rear but school and work is always in the way thanks everyone for the feedback il keep you all posted on what i do to the rear end.... oh yeah dude who did the leaf spring swap..i would love to do that to my rig but way to much money(i couldnt even afford the fox shocks) do i need to switch the shocks out with 1.5" of rear lift??? or if i crank on the torsion bars in the front??? Last edited by 51; 10-10-2007 at 09:12 AM.

10-10-2007, 09:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Personal Sales Rating: (0) Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Puyallup WA. Posts: 9,160	First welcome to Yotatech! a) yes 4crawler (the company) and Rodger Brown (the man) is loved around here. www.4crawler.com is a GREAT site. very fast response, and he knows his b) thats a lil more than a leaf spring swap. c) stock shocks will work but its always better to upgrade when you lift. lots of people here LOVE OME, when i had them i wasnt that impressed. i am much happier with my Procomp (procrap as people like to call it) ES9000s much stiffer, and helluva lot cheaper. d) I just got my business license and will be setting up accounts with Trail-gear (www.trail-gear.com) here shortly. let me know if you need any thing from them, the dealership or baxters/autozone. e) where in the NW are you? and just forewarning...... how mine looked when i got her: and after spending a 2 years on yotatech: __________________ 94 4runner: all the good stuff... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 4.56 gears. 265/75r16 wildcountry ATs. - SOLD 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s..... SOLD. pacific-crawlers.com

10-10-2007, 01:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
51 Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 10	i am in the port orchard area kinda by tahula. i hear tahula is sweet but i have never been in the trails. just the puddles... let me know when you get your lic. set up you are in tacoma Last edited by 51; 10-10-2007 at 01:48 PM.

10-10-2007, 01:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Personal Sales Rating: (0) Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Puyallup WA. Posts: 9,160	ya i'm in tacoma.... you have a PM __________________ 94 4runner: all the good stuff... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 4.56 gears. 265/75r16 wildcountry ATs. - SOLD 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s..... SOLD. pacific-crawlers.com

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10-10-2007, 02:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
fillsrunner4 Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Woodinville, wa Posts: 2,909	ide have to vouge with tofer after doing alot of searching and reading it ended up taking me above and beyond just a mild lift and what i thought even posible. (sas, rear leafspring swap, lockers, dual tcases, motor swap + auto to manual conversion, really the list will keep on going and it wount fit on just one page however in the case of this thread it sounds like whats wanted at the moment is making the truck look better not necisarily all out rock crawler. IMO you have to do what you want now or the time may never happen. lift that rear. it may take a few hours but thats what the weekend is for. your enjoyment do your homework and when it comes time to do the next big project youll be ready for it. By the way i live in Sammamish, wa outside seattle if you need some help sometime let me know ive got plenty of tools to do just about anything __________________ 94' SAS, 39" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, Chevy 4.3L V6, 5spd swap, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly, custom skids, sliders, Chop, Bob, & so much more. 97 White 4runner, 5spd, 3.4 V6, leather. DD FOR NOW Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Fillsrunner4 3.4crawler Build Thread Fillsrunner4.3 crawler (Part Two) build thread OLYMPIC 4X4 SUPPLY 360-568-7728 ext. 19 http://www.oly4x4.com/

10-10-2007, 02:09 PM	#19 (permalink)
51 Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) [OP] Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 10	sweet it is good to know there are people in wa. thanks for the offer of help i probibly will be pming you some time caus im sure i will get stuck trying to figure out what the hell i just did..thanks

10-10-2007, 05:11 PM	#20 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,875	I got the Eibach springs from NOPI. I think they're listed as 1.5" lift. Since all you're really doing is putting the truck "back to stock" the shocks will be fine. __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

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