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Old 09-21-2010, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 99blackSE
Be careful there, from the Supra's only 82 is plug and play. The other years you have to re-solder in the 22R-E circuit board into the Supra AFM. I think all other years except 82 read the signals quite differently, hence your troubles.
As i said above, you can use an AFM from a mid 80`s cressida with a 5M-GE engine, it uses the same AFM as the 82 supra and its plug and play. Im running one on my 86 4Runner and it was plug and play.
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It may be running rich because the previous owner may have turned the little gear inside richining the AFM, just a thought









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i dont have a supra afm but i do have the lc engineering intake and its ok but i seen the post about the truck running rich and i think i might be too do you have to adjust your afm when installing an aftermarket intake? mine is still stock and my dad adjusted his on his 3.slow with his s&b intake and he said it made a big difference? just curious before i started to mess around with it
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Originally Posted by 808nickh
i dont have a supra afm but i do have the lc engineering intake and its ok but i seen the post about the truck running rich and i think i might be too do you have to adjust your afm when installing an aftermarket intake? mine is still stock and my dad adjusted his on his 3.slow with his s&b intake and he said it made a big difference? just curious before i started to mess around with it
You don`t have to adjust the AFM when installing an after market intake, but if you decide to do it don`t go more the two teeth rich, then drive it and see if you notice a difference.
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and just to be sure rich is making the spring loose right? oh the reason i ask is because my truck kinda has a studder when on the throttle lightly almost like its starving for air? thanks for the quick post by the way
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Rich is loose, turning the adjustment counter clockwise. So to lean it out turn it clockwise.
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so do you think to make the adjustment after the intake id want to lean it out or richen it, i was told to richen my afm
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You can try it 1-2 notches richer (counter clockwise) and see if you notice any gains. Let us know what you notice after doing this.
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yea for sure it might be a few days i dont think i have a day off tell thursday or friday next week
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can someone point me in the right direction and tell me where to buy one of these afm. i'm in fl. thanks
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I'd love to get my hands on one of these as well. I'm in Boulder, CO.
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so i richened it up a bit and it runs better for sure i think the throttle is more responsive and it doesnt miss at low rpms like its starving for air allthough it does miss a bit still at higher rpms on occasion i think im gonna replace my plugs wires and cap and rotor to see if it changes anything hope this helps
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Originally Posted by 808nickh
so i richened it up a bit and it runs better for sure i think the throttle is more responsive and it doesnt miss at low rpms like its starving for air allthough it does miss a bit still at higher rpms on occasion i think im gonna replace my plugs wires and cap and rotor to see if it changes anything hope this helps
Replace the fuel filter also.
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yea good idea ill do that too also i have another off topic question ive had 86 88 and 90 toyotas all with 22r/re's in them and now i have an 85 it takes quite a bit longer then usuall for it to actually crank over and start then all my others any ideas what it could be? the only thing i can think of off the top of my head is my 85 has a fuel shut off switch and all my other trucks did not but the fuel pump is connected to the afm so it doesnt seem like it would matter regardless but when its warm the truck starts quick barly one crank... wierd
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Your 85 is EFI as well, correct? If so, might try running a multi-meter test on the CSI and if that checks out alright....try the physical test of taking it out. First test it for resistance and also test the CSI time switch. Very often the cause for 'taking longer to start' issues. See, you're having issues when cold...and that could be your Cold Start Injector, which IS NOT uncommonly screwy, lol. Same with the switch. Easy tests to verify/eliminate it from your P.O.E. When warm, everything is under pressure and more easily fired over.

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Originally Posted by 808nickh
yea good idea ill do that too also i have another off topic question ive had 86 88 and 90 toyotas all with 22r/re's in them and now i have an 85 it takes quite a bit longer then usuall for it to actually crank over and start then all my others any ideas what it could be? the only thing i can think of off the top of my head is my 85 has a fuel shut off switch and all my other trucks did not but the fuel pump is connected to the afm so it doesnt seem like it would matter regardless but when its warm the truck starts quick barly one crank... wierd
Is the 85 a 22RE or 22R (carbed) ?.
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Anybody know if this is do-able for a 3.0? and if so, how much size difference is there in the stock MAF and the Supra AFM??
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Originally Posted by jrobertson4runnner
Anybody know if this is do-able for a 3.0? and if so, how much size difference is there in the stock MAF and the Supra AFM??
Do a search, someone here swapped a larger AFM on a 3.0, i think the AFM they used came from a camry, but i don`t know if it was plug and play.
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it is a 22re so fuel injected and sorry but most of what you just said blew way over my head i know were the cold start injector is but not the CSI or CSI time switch or how to test it??
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CSI = cold start injector. The cold start time switch is located below the throttle body next to the coolant temperature sensor. The thermal time switch can go bad causing the cold start injector not to operate when the engine is cold causing hard starts. Two things you can do that might help your cold start problem are, pull the throttle body and give it a good cleaning, and make sure the vacuum ports arn`t plugged. Next pull the cold start injector and clean it, they get real dirty in the intake.


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