Special Service Campaign for 90-95 4Runners, 89-95 Trucks and 93-98 T100s - Page 2

mt_goat · 09-09-2005, 01:59 PM

Ok, I think I figured it out. The FSM calls the center link the "Relay Rod". If that's the case mine is in the trash somewhere already, my Superlift kit replaced that factory part 7 years ago.

Here's the page in the FSM: http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...g/16steer0.pdf

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mt_goat · 09-09-2005, 02:05 PM

Anyone getting this "relay rod" replaced on the recall should insist on a free alignment afterward.

The dealers will probably try to sell you new tie rods while they are doing the recall. Get them if you need them, if it were me I'd replace mine first, then go in and have the "relay rod" replaced and get a free alignment.

outdoorfever · 09-10-2005, 01:23 AM

Dale thank you so much for showing that. I'm calling tomorrow asap. I just installed an inner cv boot tonight and while doing so, concluded that I have a rattle coming from cv's and the end of the tie rods(or relay rod). This could be an answered prayer. Thanks again for the post...and thanks Nathan for postin it through utulsa

mt_goat · 09-10-2005, 07:14 AM

Good luck Kyle, let me know if you need any help with the tie rods, I did mine last year and they were easy with a puller.

outdoorfever · 09-10-2005, 09:31 AM

k thanks.

Blair · 09-10-2005, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leebee

would someone post the 800 # that we can call to check out our vin's please?

thanks,

lee

Lee, you need to call 1-888-869-6828
I still have itin my cell phone from back when I replaced my first runner. I called them so often that they started to answer the phone by saying "Toyota Canada. Is this Blair calling in another VIN?"

leebee · 09-11-2005, 06:39 AM

hey blair!

thanks for the number, i did see the one bob posted, after i went back and re-read the post!

ill be in touch about coming over your way to do some trails, we were in minden and bob earlier and i cant wait to get back!

lee

Blair · 09-11-2005, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leebee

hey blair!

thanks for the number, i did see the one bob posted, after i went back and re-read the post!

ill be in touch about coming over your way to do some trails, we were in minden and bob earlier and i cant wait to get back!

lee

Cool.
I've been playing on some great trails, out by Gunter. Hydro lines, rock, even an abandoned runway that I flew out to last month. Great campsites, etc...
Maybe time for an Ontario Fall Colours Tour???
Send me your email and I'll send you some pics.

outdoorfever · 09-11-2005, 04:52 PM

called yesterday, said I was under the recall. Said they couldnt fix it until October

celica · 09-13-2005, 08:17 AM

For all you Canadians. I called the 1-800 number yesterday and the door knob didn't have a clue what I was talking about & said no there are no recalls for your truck. I called again today and I got someone who knows something. He said that the comupter system hasn't been updated for the canadian VIN numbers yet, so he can't tell if my truck is included. He said that it will be the middle of October when they start sending out letters.

Matt

Injohneer · 09-13-2005, 09:10 AM

Anyone (Like Kyle/outdoorfever) who hasn't done the idler arm bushing repair yet, should expect to do this, or have this done along with the recall.

My theory is that some people let that bushing wear down too much, then when the bushing is gone, the eye of the idler arm starts wearing down. Eventually, that eye will be the weakest link... When it's thin enough, it will form the stress fracture which that Toyota is recognizing.

That would explain why it's a recall, the bushing wears out whether you're on the road or off...

I really think a bronze bushing would be better in there than that plastic piece...anybody wanna start making them?

EDIT:

I had forgotten which end the bushings were on!

On Kyle's truck, the joint between the idler arm and the relay rod is worn out... I was thinking the infamous idler arm bushing was in that joint...

Blair · 09-13-2005, 12:22 PM

Great to
still have warranty, after 15 years isn't it?

Almost a million vehicles involved. I expect about 850,000 to return for the service.

YeloSub7 · 09-13-2005, 12:35 PM

great work crux, thanks for the info

celica · 09-13-2005, 01:14 PM

Anyone ever heard of Ford or Gm doing a recall after 13 years??

Silver_Truck · 09-13-2005, 04:25 PM

mines part of it...so because all the rest of my steering components are trashed (bjs, tie rods etc) i wonder if i can get those replaced for free

do you guys really think that we could convince them to give us a free alignment?

DaveInDenver · 09-14-2005, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celica

Anyone ever heard of Ford or Gm doing a recall after 13 years??

Yeah, I do think it's sort of funny. Can't you see a roomful of Toyota engineers looking at a relay rod, scratching their heads and saying 'Hmmm, this part wore out after 200,000 miles and 16 years, this is just unacceptable.'

celica · 09-14-2005, 11:23 AM

As quoted above:

Yeah, I do think it's sort of funny. Can't you see a roomful of Toyota engineers looking at a relay rod, scratching their heads and saying 'Hmmm, this part wore out after 200,000 miles and 16 years, this is just unacceptable.'

LOL

highway74 · 09-14-2005, 03:40 PM

I called Toyota today and my 94 truck is part of the recall campaign. I asked about the alignment and according to them the relay rod is in between the tie rods and when removed will require re-alignment of the front end. Toyota stated that the alignment was included at no charge as part of the campaign which works for me as I need an alignment anyway.

sandcrawler · 09-15-2005, 02:22 PM

i called today and they said they will "check the alignment" but didn't necessarily say they would do an alignment service ...

sounds squishy to me...

Swissdrums · 09-15-2005, 03:55 PM

Wahoo, my 94 runner is being serviced this weekend, they say they have to order the part and it may take a while????... this is along with about 20 other things that need a fixing...
I have to drive my sisters honda civic. She lives overseas. But i put a sheet of papaer on the back that says "MY REAL CAR IS A TOYOTA 4RUNNER"
I really hate little cars, its red too, so i feel like a woman...in the car.
not saying red cars arent cool...
just a red honda civic...come on now

mt_goat · 09-15-2005, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandcrawler

i called today and they said they will "check the alignment" but didn't necessarily say they would do an alignment service ...

sounds squishy to me...

That's normal, if they check it and it is all in spec there would be no need to adjust anything.

dewey · 09-15-2005, 04:48 PM

this is one of my first posts on this board, but i have been a habitual reader here for about a year or so. i called to see if my 94 4runner was covered under the recall and they said it was. my question is...ive been told by a friend/mechanic of mine that my pitman arms are worn out. i have an appointment with him to replace them in a couple weeks but i dont know if i should have him do that before or after i take it in for the recall. what do you guys think?

also, i dont know if i need an alignment or not. im guessing that i do because the truck pulls to the left a little. also, in the past few months it has slowly developed a shake around 60-65 miles per hour. it felt kind of like a tire was out of balance, so i had them rebalanced and the shake is still there. possibly this could be fixed by an alignment. hopefully they will do this at no charge.

any thoughts on this are very welcome.

thanks.

dewey

DH6twinotter · 09-15-2005, 04:49 PM

Mine is covered by the warranty! Woohoo! My 4runner is 2wd too. So, they got my new address and they are in the process of sending me out the letter.

Have fun all.

Daniel

Swissdrums · 09-15-2005, 04:55 PM

dewey,
is ur shaking coming from the rear? your shaking problem could be your u-joint ...its probably worn out, dont let it get too bad, it could be scary...i dont wanna think about it

admiral · 09-19-2005, 08:16 AM

I called Toyotas 1-800 number, to see if my 4runner was affected by the recall, and they couldn't tell me. Apperantly my 4runner is not on any of their databases, I tought this was wierd so I double checked my VIN# on my truck, and they could not find it on their database. I called to see if my truck was affected by the recall if it would be serviced, since I am in Germany, they said yes, but they can't find my truck. They said that they would get a specialist to look into this, I called on Thursday night, I am still waiting for answer. Oh yeah and yes my truck is US SPECS. Has anything like this happened to any of you??

09-09-2005, 02:05 PM	#27 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,916	Anyone getting this "relay rod" replaced on the recall should insist on a free alignment afterward. The dealers will probably try to sell you new tie rods while they are doing the recall. Get them if you need them, if it were me I'd replace mine first, then go in and have the "relay rod" replaced and get a free alignment. __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000. Last edited by mt_goat; 09-09-2005 at 02:10 PM.

09-10-2005, 01:23 AM	#28 (permalink)
outdoorfever Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Concord NC Posts: 1,058	Dale thank you so much for showing that. I'm calling tomorrow asap. I just installed an inner cv boot tonight and while doing so, concluded that I have a rattle coming from cv's and the end of the tie rods(or relay rod). This could be an answered prayer. Thanks again for the post...and thanks Nathan for postin it through utulsa __________________ -Kyle Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE!!

09-10-2005, 07:14 AM	#29 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,916	Good luck Kyle, let me know if you need any help with the tie rods, I did mine last year and they were easy with a puller. __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000.

09-10-2005, 09:31 AM	#30 (permalink)
outdoorfever Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Concord NC Posts: 1,058	k thanks. __________________ -Kyle Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE!!

09-11-2005, 06:39 AM	#32 (permalink)
leebee Contributing Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: marlbank, canada Posts: 2,449	hey blair! thanks for the number, i did see the one bob posted, after i went back and re-read the post! ill be in touch about coming over your way to do some trails, we were in minden and bob earlier and i cant wait to get back! lee __________________ 93 sr5 v6 auto, 4x4 Photos http://s866.photobucket.com/albums/a...albumview=grid there are quite some attractive ladies on here with Toys. (compliments of ironmike) ifsc 3(.0) http://tlca.org www.of4wd.com www.sontt.com

09-11-2005, 04:52 PM	#34 (permalink)
outdoorfever Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Concord NC Posts: 1,058	called yesterday, said I was under the recall. Said they couldnt fix it until October __________________ -Kyle Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE!!

09-13-2005, 08:17 AM	#35 (permalink)
celica Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Posts: 1,773	For all you Canadians For all you Canadians. I called the 1-800 number yesterday and the door knob didn't have a clue what I was talking about & said no there are no recalls for your truck. I called again today and I got someone who knows something. He said that the comupter system hasn't been updated for the canadian VIN numbers yet, so he can't tell if my truck is included. He said that it will be the middle of October when they start sending out letters. Matt __________________ Matt 2003 4-Runner Limited - Couldn't stay away from the runner 2003 Sequoia Limited 1989 Supra Turbo 1992 4r, 5spd V6 Sold

09-13-2005, 09:10 AM	#36 (permalink)
Injohneer Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 667	Anyone (Like Kyle/outdoorfever) who hasn't done the idler arm bushing repair yet, should expect to do this, or have this done along with the recall. My theory is that some people let that bushing wear down too much, then when the bushing is gone, the eye of the idler arm starts wearing down. Eventually, that eye will be the weakest link... When it's thin enough, it will form the stress fracture which that Toyota is recognizing. That would explain why it's a recall, the bushing wears out whether you're on the road or off... I really think a bronze bushing would be better in there than that plastic piece...anybody wanna start making them? EDIT: I had forgotten which end the bushings were on! On Kyle's truck, the joint between the idler arm and the relay rod is worn out... I was thinking the infamous idler arm bushing was in that joint... __________________ Trail/Build Rig: 1981 Toyota Pickup 4x4, flatbed Tow Rig: 2001 Chevy 2500HD Duramax 4x4, X-cab Long Bed. Will be my tow rig, when I get a trailer. RIP: 1995 4Runner. Last edited by Injohneer; 09-14-2005 at 09:36 AM.

09-13-2005, 12:22 PM	#37 (permalink)
Blair Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The rolling hills of Cavan, Ontario Posts: 737	Great to still have warranty, after 15 years isn't it? Almost a million vehicles involved. I expect about 850,000 to return for the service. __________________ 91 4Runner, 5 spd, with the Mighty 3.0! 0 to 60 in 2.5 liters.

09-13-2005, 12:35 PM	#38 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 897	great work crux, thanks for the info __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-35" BFG M/T-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders-TG Front Bumper SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

09-13-2005, 01:14 PM	#39 (permalink)
celica Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Posts: 1,773	Anyone ever heard of Ford or Gm doing a recall after 13 years?? __________________ Matt 2003 4-Runner Limited - Couldn't stay away from the runner 2003 Sequoia Limited 1989 Supra Turbo 1992 4r, 5spd V6 Sold

09-13-2005, 04:25 PM	#40 (permalink)
Silver_Truck Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: B'ham, WA Posts: 1,816	mines part of it...so because all the rest of my steering components are trashed (bjs, tie rods etc) i wonder if i can get those replaced for free do you guys really think that we could convince them to give us a free alignment? __________________ -Geoff *1991 Toyota Pickup Ext. Cab SR5 4x4 V6 5 spd K&N intake, port & polished heads with OS valves, port & polished intake manifold and plenum, NWOR headers and crossover, NWOR catback, Denso Iridium plugs, Redline Fluids, 4.88s, Rear LockRight, Aisin hubs, Chevy springs, BJ spacers, 2" RB body lift, 34x10.5 Swamper LTBs, WolphisWorks Sliders and bumpers, 400,000 mi.

09-14-2005, 11:23 AM	#42 (permalink)
celica Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Posts: 1,773	As quoted above: Yeah, I do think it's sort of funny. Can't you see a roomful of Toyota engineers looking at a relay rod, scratching their heads and saying 'Hmmm, this part wore out after 200,000 miles and 16 years, this is just unacceptable.' LOL __________________ Matt 2003 4-Runner Limited - Couldn't stay away from the runner 2003 Sequoia Limited 1989 Supra Turbo 1992 4r, 5spd V6 Sold

09-14-2005, 03:40 PM	#43 (permalink)
highway74 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 165	I called Toyota today and my 94 truck is part of the recall campaign. I asked about the alignment and according to them the relay rod is in between the tie rods and when removed will require re-alignment of the front end. Toyota stated that the alignment was included at no charge as part of the campaign which works for me as I need an alignment anyway.

09-15-2005, 02:22 PM	#44 (permalink)
sandcrawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: maine Posts: 404	i called today and they said they will "check the alignment" but didn't necessarily say they would do an alignment service ... sounds squishy to me... __________________ 2006 V8 Sport Edition, Galactic Grey

09-15-2005, 03:55 PM	#45 (permalink)
Swissdrums Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: No.Va. Posts: 361	Wahoo, my 94 runner is being serviced this weekend, they say they have to order the part and it may take a while????... this is along with about 20 other things that need a fixing... I have to drive my sisters honda civic. She lives overseas. But i put a sheet of papaer on the back that says "MY REAL CAR IS A TOYOTA 4RUNNER" I really hate little cars, its red too, so i feel like a woman...in the car. not saying red cars arent cool... just a red honda civic...come on now

09-15-2005, 04:48 PM	#47 (permalink)
dewey Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 69	this is one of my first posts on this board, but i have been a habitual reader here for about a year or so. i called to see if my 94 4runner was covered under the recall and they said it was. my question is...ive been told by a friend/mechanic of mine that my pitman arms are worn out. i have an appointment with him to replace them in a couple weeks but i dont know if i should have him do that before or after i take it in for the recall. what do you guys think? also, i dont know if i need an alignment or not. im guessing that i do because the truck pulls to the left a little. also, in the past few months it has slowly developed a shake around 60-65 miles per hour. it felt kind of like a tire was out of balance, so i had them rebalanced and the shake is still there. possibly this could be fixed by an alignment. hopefully they will do this at no charge. any thoughts on this are very welcome. thanks. dewey

09-15-2005, 04:49 PM	#48 (permalink)
DH6twinotter Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina Posts: 1,676	Mine is covered by the warranty! Woohoo! My 4runner is 2wd too. So, they got my new address and they are in the process of sending me out the letter. Have fun all. Daniel __________________ ------------------------------------------------ 1990 4Runner: SR5, 2wd, 3.90 rear, 3VZ-E, auto. 15x8 MT classic II rims, 31x10.50 Bridgestone Desert Duellers ($50!), Cobra CB, 3' firestick Planned stuff: Pre-runner light bar with Hella 500s, small lift Stuff I'd do if I went crazy: SAS, 7mgte or 1UZ swap, and as much offroad goodies as $$ will allow.

09-15-2005, 04:55 PM	#49 (permalink)
Swissdrums Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: No.Va. Posts: 361	dewey, is ur shaking coming from the rear? your shaking problem could be your u-joint ...its probably worn out, dont let it get too bad, it could be scary...i dont wanna think about it Last edited by Swissdrums; 09-15-2005 at 07:36 PM.

09-19-2005, 08:16 AM	#50 (permalink)
admiral Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 56	I called Toyotas 1-800 number, to see if my 4runner was affected by the recall, and they couldn't tell me. Apperantly my 4runner is not on any of their databases, I tought this was wierd so I double checked my VIN# on my truck, and they could not find it on their database. I called to see if my truck was affected by the recall if it would be serviced, since I am in Germany, they said yes, but they can't find my truck. They said that they would get a specialist to look into this, I called on Thursday night, I am still waiting for answer. Oh yeah and yes my truck is US SPECS. Has anything like this happened to any of you?? __________________ 1992 4Runner SR5 V6 3.0L 4wd---In Germany 2000 ZR2 S10 4.3L Vortec--------In El Paso 1990 300zx 3.0l 2seater----------In El Paso 1975 Scottsdale stepside 350sb--In El Paso ROCK ON!!!!!

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