*SNAP* Rear Axle sheared off at 45mph and tire went for a ride! - Page 5

80W90 · 04-21-2007, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveO

Yup, you use the stock axle, but replace everything outside of the axle tube.

Here is an image from FROR of their Full Floater chunk:

Clicky on the picture for the information on their Full Floater conversion:

I have this setup on my '99 and I absolutely love it. Its reliable, strong, redundant and provides better stopping with rear disc brakes.

interesting.
I might just do this. only to take the load off the carrier bearing, thus prolonging the life of it.

but looking at the link i am confused. i understand it all, except, what does the manual hub lock onto? since the outside of the axle is flat.
this part made some sense to me but still i dont see how the hub is supposed to lock on to that.

you wouldnt happen to have an exploded diagram of this setup?

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mt_goat · 04-22-2007, 05:20 AM

You also have to have the spindles and hubs from a front SA.

SteveO · 04-22-2007, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 80W90

interesting.
I might just do this. only to take the load off the carrier bearing, thus prolonging the life of it.

but looking at the link i am confused. i understand it all, except, what does the manual hub lock onto? since the outside of the axle is flat.
this part made some sense to me but still i dont see how the hub is supposed to lock on to that.

you wouldnt happen to have an exploded diagram of this setup?

No exploded diagram, if I actually had my rear in gear and my website updated, I would have the correct pictures for you (*sigh*, too much work and too little time).

The item in the above picture is the flange. This flange replaces the manual lock out hubs. Because I wanted the most strength for the buck, I went with the flanges and ARP hub studs, instead of manual hubs. These are quality flanges and have been holding up quite well for me.

If you are looking for an exploded view, I would suggest searching for an online manual. I have seen a few, and you may even find a link or two here in Yotatech.

tc · 04-22-2007, 10:54 AM

The kit comes with new axle shafts that are longer and splined on the outside to engage the locking hub/flange.

**waskillywabbit** · 04-22-2007, 11:08 AM

Stock axle housing - remove all the junk to the 4 bolt flange
FROR Adapter - RTV to the axle housing w/ the 4 bolts and attach caliper to adapter
Custom chromoly axles
SFA spindle and wheel hub onto adapter w/ OEM seals

The rest should be easy to figure out.

**Lysmachia** · 04-22-2007, 09:57 PM

So today while finishing up our grinding on Tippy - The grinder troy was using bucked up into his face. He had eye protection on but it hit his cheek and nose. We waited 2 hours in the ER waiting room. Then another 2 hours for a Dr. And finally 2 more hours for a plastic surgeon to come and stitch him up....

Lesson learned... wear lots of PPE!

Before they stitched it...

Marc P · 04-22-2007, 10:00 PM

Holy...ouch!!

tc · 04-22-2007, 10:09 PM

Actually, it didn't hurt at all until they went to numb it.

The tetanus shot sucked worse.

davemacneil · 04-22-2007, 10:24 PM

Ouch, Im deff a fan of a full face shield...

...starting today.

**Lysmachia** · 04-22-2007, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by davemacneil

Ouch, Im deff a fan of a full face shield...

...starting today.

x2 - Actually I do wear one while grinding (But I had it on when this happened and Troy didn't) *Bummer*

vwfastg60 · 04-23-2007, 12:13 AM

Ouch!!!!

**waskillywabbit** · 04-23-2007, 04:53 AM

Several suggestions:

Full face shield with safety glasses

METABO - angle grinder with a clutch so when it binds, it clutches - all my other angle grinders SUCK compared to my Metabo

Get well soon Troy!!!

mt_goat · 04-23-2007, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tc

Actually, it didn't hurt at all until they went to numb it.

The tetanus shot sucked worse.

That sucks man, you may need even more numbing

when you get the bill, my last trip to the ER cost me about $1000 and that was WITH full coverage health insurance.

Hope you heal up soon, remember chicks dig body damage.

Brenjen · 04-23-2007, 06:03 AM

Yeah that sucks. I had a former boss years ago grab a grinder out of my hand as I was explaining the need to be careful because he had taken the guards off all of the grinders he owned.....He layed into the project & did the exact same thing in the exact same place on his face. He was miserable after the swelling set in. I hope you heal without a lot of that to contend with.

tc · 04-23-2007, 06:07 AM

Thanks!

Today at work should be interesting since I can't get a bandage to cover it...(doc said I don't need to - just hoping nobody is grossed out!)

SteveO · 04-23-2007, 06:28 AM

Troy, glad you are ok. I do way safety glasses, but this is the very reason I have a death grip on that grinder when my in tight quarters. Then, the next day, my arms are really sore from having a death grip on said grinder.

heal up quickly.

sschaefer3 · 04-23-2007, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

METABO - angle grinder with a clutch so when it binds, it clutches - all my other angle grinders SUCK compared to my Metabo

Get well soon Troy!!!

I have a few of those too. I wear the hardware store variety out within a year.

drew303 · 04-23-2007, 11:42 AM

ouch on the grinder accident. I've had mine buck a few times and one night when i shouldnt of been working on the truck anymore i went to change the blade and mistaked the ON buttom for the button that locks the wheel so you can unscrew it. I was a centimeter away from having my fingers on the blade.. ugh i got lucky. I went to bed afterthat. =)

oh and im STILL curious: Is it just me or wouldnt that really messed up housing be somehow linked to why the axle came out?

Quote:

Originally Posted by drew303

how the heck do you bend an axle housing like that?!?!

if that was how it was BEFORE the axle came off thats probably the cause of the whole accident.

SteveO · 04-23-2007, 12:15 PM

With a houseing that bent, I don't think you could drive on that, even when the axle was still attached to it.. I think the houseing became bent when the wheel bearing failed, letting the axle walk out. When the axle came out most of the way, the torque placed on tire, made the axle shaft like a leveraging bar inside the axle housing. This kind of pressure pulling back on the houseing could bend it.

**Lysmachia** · 04-23-2007, 06:01 PM

That's what I thought SteveO but we are checking everything including the 3rd member to make sure all we are transferring over is ok. Still I have myself a gold medal pretzel huh?

Got my new leafs and new axle housing painted today... w00t!

SacRunner · 04-30-2007, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by drew303

ouch on the grinder accident. I've had mine buck a few times and one night when i shouldnt of been working on the truck anymore i went to change the blade and mistaked the ON buttom for the button that locks the wheel so you can unscrew it. I was a centimeter away from having my fingers on the blade.. ugh i got lucky. I went to bed afterthat. =)

oh and im STILL curious: Is it just me or wouldnt that really messed up housing be somehow linked to why the axle came out?

I'm no expert but if the axle housing wasn't bent before the axle snapped and the tire came off, I would imagine that having a large % of the 4Runner's weight sitting on that brake drum while slowing down from 45 miles per hour may have had something to do with it being bent.

and Troy, I wish you the best, but that's going to be one nice scar.

YotaJunky · 04-30-2007, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lysmachia

So today while finishing up our grinding on Tippy - The grinder troy was using bucked up into his face. He had eye protection on but it hit his cheek and nose. We waited 2 hours in the ER waiting room. Then another 2 hours for a Dr. And finally 2 more hours for a plastic surgeon to come and stitch him up....

Lesson learned... wear lots of PPE!

Before they stitched it...

OUCH..... I was just using my grinder yesterday and had contemplated using the full face mask, but instead only used my safety glasses. After seeing what happened to you, it's a no brainer for me now.... full face mask it is from now on.

Get well,

From Troy to Troy

**Lysmachia** · 04-30-2007, 11:06 PM

Troys stiches came out today - I need to get a pic so you can see how well it has healed - but it looks like he will have a scar on his cheek!

Oh and we pulled my 3rd member and had a look. It looks good! THANK GOD!!!

80W90 · 05-03-2007, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

Stock axle housing - remove all the junk to the 4 bolt flange
FROR Adapter - RTV to the axle housing w/ the 4 bolts and attach caliper to adapter
Custom chromoly axles
SFA spindle and wheel hub onto adapter w/ OEM seals

The rest should be easy to figure out.

that makes much more sense now

**Lysmachia** · 05-03-2007, 08:25 PM

I stopped by and saw my new leaf springs. They look Awesome. I hope to have pics up tomorrow!

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tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,376	The kit comes with new axle shafts that are longer and splined on the outside to engage the locking hub/flange. __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

04-22-2007, 11:08 AM	#105 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,555	Stock axle housing - remove all the junk to the 4 bolt flange FROR Adapter - RTV to the axle housing w/ the 4 bolts and attach caliper to adapter Custom chromoly axles SFA spindle and wheel hub onto adapter w/ OEM seals The rest should be easy to figure out. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

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Marc P Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Santee, CA Posts: 2,736	Holy...ouch!! __________________ 1995 4Runner---SAS with goodies

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tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,376	Actually, it didn't hurt at all until they went to numb it. The tetanus shot sucked worse. __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

04-22-2007, 10:24 PM	#109 (permalink)
davemacneil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 70	Ouch, Im deff a fan of a full face shield... ...starting today. __________________ 1990 TOYOTA 4RUNNER SR5 - 22RE, OME 901, 31x10.5 Cooper STT, Rust Mod --- 22RE is near dead, lol! Overhauling whole truck this summer!!!

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04-23-2007, 04:53 AM	#112 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,555	Several suggestions: Full face shield with safety glasses METABO - angle grinder with a clutch so when it binds, it clutches - all my other angle grinders SUCK compared to my Metabo Get well soon Troy!!! __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

04-23-2007, 06:03 AM	#114 (permalink)
Brenjen Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Searcy, Arkansas Posts: 1,191	Yeah that sucks. I had a former boss years ago grab a grinder out of my hand as I was explaining the need to be careful because he had taken the guards off all of the grinders he owned.....He layed into the project & did the exact same thing in the exact same place on his face. He was miserable after the swelling set in. I hope you heal without a lot of that to contend with. __________________ '95 4Runner 3.0 Automatic bone stock; it's becoming a project slowly but surely, one part at a time "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”

04-23-2007, 06:07 AM	#115 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,376	Thanks! Today at work should be interesting since I can't get a bandage to cover it...(doc said I don't need to - just hoping nobody is grossed out!) __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

04-23-2007, 06:28 AM	#116 (permalink)
SteveO Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NM Posts: 1,848	Troy, glad you are ok. I do way safety glasses, but this is the very reason I have a death grip on that grinder when my in tight quarters. Then, the next day, my arms are really sore from having a death grip on said grinder. heal up quickly. __________________ http://www.Hunt4Steve.com In the span of time, life is short. Our life is like a wave on the ocean, a flower in the field, here today and gone tomorrow. Know yourself, know where you will spend eternity, for NOTHING else will matter when you die.

04-23-2007, 12:15 PM	#119 (permalink)
SteveO Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NM Posts: 1,848	With a houseing that bent, I don't think you could drive on that, even when the axle was still attached to it.. I think the houseing became bent when the wheel bearing failed, letting the axle walk out. When the axle came out most of the way, the torque placed on tire, made the axle shaft like a leveraging bar inside the axle housing. This kind of pressure pulling back on the houseing could bend it. __________________ http://www.Hunt4Steve.com In the span of time, life is short. Our life is like a wave on the ocean, a flower in the field, here today and gone tomorrow. Know yourself, know where you will spend eternity, for NOTHING else will matter when you die.

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