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Old 12-09-2008, 08:50 PM
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nice nice!
btw, my truck doctor came over... 5 mins with a wrench and its fixed lol!
found this nasty coolant leak i was wondering about thoe... it was one of thoese werid c-clips almost, it wa snear the heatercore.. so i went out and got new clamps..
woo.
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Originally Posted by 874runnersr5
nice nice!
btw, my truck doctor came over... 5 mins with a wrench and its fixed lol!
found this nasty coolant leak i was wondering about thoe... it was one of thoese werid c-clips almost, it wa snear the heatercore.. so i went out and got new clamps..
woo.
Haha..dont you hate it when they're so simple and you freak out about it? Glad it got fixed!
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yeah dude lol
so whats the dealo with your truck???
i guess i can lend a hand... couple hour drive lol..
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lol, read the first two posts AFM short, apparently. Plus, once I get it running I need to figure out whats wrong with the Air Injection system so I can get it I/M'ed and registered.
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nice ignore...
I give you the cause of the code, quoting the Chilton's manual you say didn't have the codes, and then... the glamour boys take over...

guess you don't really want to fix it.
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hahahha
ah i love yotatech.
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nice ignore...
I give you the cause of the code, quoting the Chilton's manual you say didn't have the codes, and then... the glamour boys take over...

guess you don't really want to fix it.
I so did not ignore you! I've been looking through the Chiltons, looking through the site you sent a link to. And I did say "thanks,Abe" in the first repost with the pics
The first thing Im going to do tomorrow is check the resistance between VC-VB, VC-E2, VS-VC, or Open circuit between VC-E2.

Who wouldn't want the glamor boys?
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who are these glamor boys you speak of abe!
i need names!
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A few shots of the records....




I found a recent from Nix99

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Originally Posted by abecedarian
per chilton's page 4-23
88, code 31- air flow meter signal- short between VC-VB, VC-E2, VS-VC or open circuit between VC-E2

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/AFM/index.shtml
So if the fuel pump is not working, then the computer tells the AFM to not work, correct? Or is it it only the other way around? Looking through the records, it looks like the AFM was replaced a few years ago by one from Nix99, and there was some other problem before that that caused code 25 and 31, lean mixture and a short somewhere in the AFM, respectively.

There are records from the vehicles entire life. Not 100% complete im sure, but I found the original sales receipt from '88. Its not a Cali truck, but was registered in Cali at some point in time.
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[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ5SVDYBNrY[/YOUTUBE]

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Originally Posted by toyota4x4907
So if the fuel pump is not working, then the computer tells the AFM to not work, correct? Or is it it only the other way around? Looking through the records, it looks like the AFM was replaced a few years ago by one from Nix99, and there was some other problem before that that caused code 25 and 31, lean mixture and a short somewhere in the AFM, respectively.

There are records from the vehicles entire life. Not 100% complete im sure, but I found the original sales receipt from '88. Its not a Cali truck, but was registered in Cali at some point in time.
the afm tells the fuel pump to work, via the circuit opening relay
there may be a common fuse somewhere in there though....
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It says the video was no longer available What was it?
Originally Posted by abecedarian
the afm tells the fuel pump to work, via the circuit opening relay
there may be a common fuse somewhere in there though....
It would probably be in some wiring diagram, correct?
Also, what exactly will I be looking for tomorrow..well, later today, when I test the Ohms in the AFM? I mean, is it showing an actual short in the wiring? Or a short as in something is wrong somewhere else which causes the AFM to not work? <--that sounds confusing but I cant think of more technical terms. If I find a short somewhere what will that mean? say theres a short between VC-VB. What does that indicate? Would it be in Chiltons? Is there a site that would tell me whats wrong?
A $15 Multimeter from Schucks would suffice, would it not?
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Just a shot in the dark here cause i dont know if you already checked or not, But did you check the airbox and the airtube to the throttle body?

You said the truck sat for 3 months that plenty of time for some little woodland critter to build a nice little nest n that area and greatly restrict airflow under driving conditions. Which could explain why it ran ok idling but starter to peter out under load.

Dont laugh too hard I have seen it a 100 times...lol

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Originally Posted by Duelertoyota4x4
Just a shot in the dark here cause i dont know if you already checked or not, But did you check the airbox and the airtube to the throttle body?

You said the truck sat for 3 months that plenty of time for some little woodland critter to build a nice little nest n that area and greatly restrict airflow under driving conditions. Which could explain why it ran ok idling but starter to peter out under load.

Dont laugh too hard I have seen it a 100 times...lol

LMAO, that actually is really funny! I appreciate the input, but thats not why. It drove just fine when I checked it out on Saturday, so something happened between then and Tuesday. Yesterday (Tuesday) when my friend and I were attempting to drive it back to my sisters house, I DID think to check the air filter. It was a crappy Fram which was pretty dirty, but only on the side it should be dirty. I tried putting the K&N from my '93 22re in it but that didn't help. It has engine code 31, a short between VC-VB......etc.
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I got it running. I unplugged the AFM plug, looked at it, and decided to plug it back in and just see if it will start. Well it did, and I ran it for about 45 minutes. no problems. I drove it like a mile. ran just fine.I think theres an exhaust leak somewhere around the ex manifold though because smoke was like billowing out from that area when it was first started and running. Maybe the air injection line has a crack or hole in it and thats why its not getting vacuum.
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so it seems some corrosion, or just a poor connection on the afm plug was the cause.
it's no wonder things smoked when you got it started- it had seafoam setting in there for how long?
but if it's coming from around the exhaust manifold, who knows? maybe it was some oil or greasy hand prints on the manifold or pipe? or maybe there is an exhaust leak?
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