Lockers!

LilPyke · 12-22-2008, 12:21 PM

ok now im about to buy some lockers for my 90 toyota p/u 4cyl and i am just wondering which one i should choose. now ive always looked at detroit locker for bout 500 bucks but i also seen two other brands for cheaper. lock right locker is bout 300 bucks and spool locker is 200. and the lock right says its a do it yourself type lockers and all that good stuff. im just wondering about quality like if these two other brands are right there with detroit cause im not doing competition crawling or anything. thanks

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scuba · 12-22-2008, 12:58 PM

AUSSIE FTW !!!
Just ordered mine a few days ago...

a4runnerfreak · 12-22-2008, 12:59 PM

Look at the Aussie. Look up Matt16, and read his write up/review on the Aussie. I think it's a lil cheaper than the Lockright, and just as good, if not a lil better. It's also a DIY install, as well.

stagger_lee · 12-22-2008, 01:12 PM

Detroit.

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Originally Posted by a4runnerfreak

Look at the Aussie. Look up Matt16, and read his write up/review on the Aussie. I think it's a lil cheaper than the Lockright, and just as good, if not a lil better. It's also a DIY install, as well.

I was talking to scuba about this earlier, but you just made up my mind for me. If an Aussie is just as good as a Lockrite...Lockrite's are crap. Buddy went through 3 in 5 trips.

86autoyota · 12-22-2008, 01:24 PM

3 in 5 trips? he's def doin something wrong, mines been through countless trips and i bought it used

Matt16 · 12-22-2008, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stagger_lee

Detroit.

I was talking to scuba about this earlier, but you just made up my mind for me. If an Aussie is just as good as a Lockrite...Lockrite's are crap. Buddy went through 3 in 5 trips.

Are you saying someone actually broke an Aussie locker? That would be the first I've ever heard in many hours of internet "research". It sounds like your buddy didn't do the install properly, or perhaps he snapped an axle shaft- that releases enough force inside the diff to destroy the locker, R&P, etc. Aussie Locker have always replaced lockers that break, even those that break due to faulty install.

I see someone has already pimped my writeup, but I'll say it once again. I have found my Aussie to be most satisfactory on my daily driver, I can't personally say anything on locker strength, as my drivetrain is stock, aand I have 31" tires. The link to the writeup is in my signature below.

stagger_lee · 12-22-2008, 01:34 PM

oh no. I have not read about any issues with the Aussie, buddy broke 3 lockrites. Like I said 2 diferent shops installed 2 different ones, and he installed the 3rd. Maybe my boys just drive like a-holes, but I want something stout that can handle and A-hole driver. Runnerfreak compared the aussie to the lockrite, which freaked me out. I cant justify spending 500-700 on an ARB or a detroit right now, so i was on the fence about the Aussie. Runnerfreak scared me with that comment.

I await Scubas review. I have seen him drive on some videos. lol

Matt16 · 12-22-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stagger_lee

oh no. I have not read about any issues with the Aussie, buddy broke 3 lockrites. Like I said 2 diferent shops installed 2 different ones, and he installed the 3rd. Maybe my boys just drive like a-holes, but I want something stout that can handle and A-hole driver. Runnerfreak compared the aussie to the lockrite, which freaked me out. I cant justify spending 500-700 on an ARB or a detroit right now, so i was on the fence about the Aussie. Runnerfreak scared me with that comment.

I await Scubas review. I have seen him drive on some videos. lol

Oh, I see. The locker is quite a bit stronger than your rear axle shafts from what I understand. How many rear axle shafts have you broken?

904_runner · 12-22-2008, 02:45 PM

I like the lockright i have. Haven't had a problem with it. I broke one pin, but it was at the same time i had a broken axleshaft that was driven on. I don't know if that had anything to do with it or not.

The lockright was wort every penny in my opinon.

stagger_lee · 12-22-2008, 03:08 PM

904, is your rear end built? My buddy had put a full Longfield set up in there, I wonder if that combined with a lead foot is grenading the lockrights.

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Originally Posted by Matt16

Oh, I see. The locker is quite a bit stronger than your rear axle shafts from what I understand. How many rear axle shafts have you broken?

I have always ran detroits. Every other rig I had, had built rear ends 30+ splines and chromoly axles. This time around, I am more on a budget, but I will wait for the goods if I am not sure about something. I have not driven the runner hard enough yet, and wont until I do get rear built and new motor in. To answer your questions no broken axles yet. I am a bit more conservative then those I drive with, but I like peace of mind too, you know. I mean know disrespect to anyone here, much respect to all, just concerned.

**Tofer** · 12-22-2008, 03:22 PM

Arb....

stagger_lee · 12-22-2008, 03:31 PM

^^T-bag ^^ did you miss this part? I wish. ARBs are the lux.

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Originally Posted by stagger_lee

This time around, I am more on a budget

904_runner · 12-22-2008, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stagger_lee

904, is your rear end built? My buddy had put a full Longfield set up in there, I wonder if that combined with a lead foot is grenading the lockrights.

My rear axle has stock shafts. Just got some 5.29's put in there. (THANKS ZUK )

Its holding up for me. I do like the lockright, I don't have any complaints for the lunchbox lockers. Im trying to get one for the front end on mine. In reality, i would love an ARB or elocker, but those were out of the question for me.

stagger_lee · 12-22-2008, 03:40 PM

Out of the budget question you mean, like me? lol

ovrrdrive · 12-22-2008, 03:42 PM

I have a Lockright and have had no troubles with it at all, and I have no problems recommending it to anyone. If properly setup and installed it should be pretty troublefree.

That said, Lockright<Aussie<<<Detroit. If you have the cash go with the full Detroit. You won't be sorry.

stagger_lee · 12-22-2008, 03:52 PM

^^ do you guys think having stronger axles and more splines/heavy foot, has anything to do with the lockrights not holding up? I will go out on a limb and say they were installed correctly due to the fact that 2 reputable shops did 2 installs of 2 different units.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LilPyke

ok now im about to buy some lockers for my 90 toyota p/u 4cyl and i am just wondering which one i should choose. now ive always looked at detroit locker for bout 500 bucks but i also seen two other brands for cheaper. lock right locker is bout 300 bucks and spool locker is 200. and the lock right says its a do it yourself type lockers and all that good stuff. im just wondering about quality like if these two other brands are right there with detroit cause im not doing competition crawling or anything. thanks

We always get off on these tangents so I wanted to make sure OP had ample info. Matts write up was full of good info on the Aussie. He sold me on it till I talked to some of the more hardcore wheelers in my group. I suspect there might be a bit of an ego issue on their part as well, trying to sway me away from the Aussie. I'm still on the fence.
http://www.yotatech.com/f105/aussie-...review-143163/

ovrrdrive · 12-22-2008, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stagger_lee

^^ do you guys think having stronger axles and more splines/heavy foot, has anything to do with the lockrights not holding up? I will go out on a limb and say they were installed correctly due to the fact that 2 reputable shops did 2 installs of 2 different units.

I can't speak for the people above me, but what I am suggesting is that"If properly setup and installed it should be pretty troublefree. " Which is pretty much exactly what I said above.

What I would say to you, is that if you're breaking 3 Lockrights in 5 trips, you're at a stage of the game where you're going to break just about anything you put in there. Don't expect a scooter to be competitive in MotoGP if you know what I mean. It's time for you to break out the checkbook for parts and driving lessons.

But after all, that's just MHO...

scuba · 12-22-2008, 06:09 PM

Its not him thats breaking the lockrites, its his buddy, and if it was me, all those broken lockrights would be enough to steer me away from one...

stagger_lee · 12-22-2008, 06:29 PM

Thanks Scuba. Let me reiterate that these guys know what they are doing, hence putting in stronger axles knowing he has a heavy foot and he's a maniac driver. This is a daily driver though and didn't want a full detroit. Sounds to me like inferior product if it cant keep up, not driver error. Is it wrong to want a heavy duty LSD, lunchbox?

904_runner · 12-22-2008, 06:35 PM

sounds like hes too heavy on the gas imo. If hes having things breaking constantly i would think maybe super big tires and that being the weakest link of his rear axle since other parts are beefed up.

Just my guess. I for one love the lockright. If it breaks i might be tempted to go with a full detroit. Most likeley though i would replace it with another lockright.

Just my $0.02

fyreandwater · 12-22-2008, 06:44 PM

If you're on a budget and want a great locker I would vote Aussie. Really easy to install! I love mine and have had no problem. Went on some pretty serious trails in Moab - Hells Revenge, Poison Spider Mesa, and they were awesome! Showed up a couple of buddies with jeeps. They were not happy to say the least!

stagger_lee · 12-22-2008, 06:45 PM

33"s too big? Its only a 22re on a single cab. Usually you would expect a stock driveshaft or U-joint to go first in front of built up axle. Maybe he got a bad batch. All the numbers on the boxes from all 3 were pretty much sequential. ???

I hear what your saying though.

You can understand my concerns, and again, I have never heard anything bad about the Aussie.

904_runner · 12-22-2008, 06:51 PM

Yea 33's are too big! jk

Yea im not sure what happened. now when we were speaking of lockrights i was thinking of the v6 modle, which is what i have. I have no knowledge of the 4cyl lockright and if it came down to it, i would definitly go aussie, but for the v6, the lockright had been fine for me.

stagger_lee · 12-22-2008, 06:53 PM

Good to know.

RaginYota · 12-22-2008, 07:20 PM

I have a detroit and have zero complaints. The truck is also my daily driver and the road manners are awesome, I can't tell it's even there. I was going to get an aussie but they don't have one for the V-6. I heard good and bad about Lockrights, but 904 likes his. Good luck with your decisoin.

Laterz

12-22-2008, 12:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,968	AUSSIE FTW !!! Just ordered mine a few days ago... __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA Mods, please be mature and leave my sig alone, thanks. No, I will not be your friend.

12-22-2008, 01:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
86autoyota Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 66	3 in 5 trips? he's def doin something wrong, mines been through countless trips and i bought it used __________________ 86 pickup, freshly rebuilt 22re, LCE cam, 4.88's, posi/front, locker/rear,V6 carrier, Hankook MT's, exhaust...more to come in the near future

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904_runner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chico, California Posts: 3,782	I like the lockright i have. Haven't had a problem with it. I broke one pin, but it was at the same time i had a broken axleshaft that was driven on. I don't know if that had anything to do with it or not. The lockright was wort every penny in my opinon. __________________ Mike 1990 4runner: 3.4 swapped, 5-speed, sas'd, Rear leaf swap, Locked, 5.29's, 39.5" iroks on Beadlocks, Armor'd Longfields, Duals coming soon: My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/904_run...thread-158746/ http://www.treadlightly.org/ http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ery/index.html

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ovrrdrive Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,775	I have a Lockright and have had no troubles with it at all, and I have no problems recommending it to anyone. *If properly setup and installed* it should be pretty troublefree. That said, Lockright<Aussie<<<Detroit. If you have the cash go with the full Detroit. You won't be sorry. __________________ '95 xcab - SOLD '03 4runner V8 SR5 completely stock

12-22-2008, 06:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,968	Its not him thats breaking the lockrites, its his buddy, and if it was me, all those broken lockrights would be enough to steer me away from one... __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA Mods, please be mature and leave my sig alone, thanks. No, I will not be your friend.

12-22-2008, 06:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
904_runner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chico, California Posts: 3,782	sounds like hes too heavy on the gas imo. If hes having things breaking constantly i would think maybe super big tires and that being the weakest link of his rear axle since other parts are beefed up. Just my guess. I for one love the lockright. If it breaks i might be tempted to go with a full detroit. Most likeley though i would replace it with another lockright. Just my $0.02 __________________ Mike 1990 4runner: 3.4 swapped, 5-speed, sas'd, Rear leaf swap, Locked, 5.29's, 39.5" iroks on Beadlocks, Armor'd Longfields, Duals coming soon: My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/904_run...thread-158746/ http://www.treadlightly.org/ http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ery/index.html

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fyreandwater Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Durango, CO Posts: 119	If you're on a budget and want a great locker I would vote Aussie. Really easy to install! I love mine and have had no problem. Went on some pretty serious trails in Moab - Hells Revenge, Poison Spider Mesa, and they were awesome! Showed up a couple of buddies with jeeps. They were not happy to say the least! __________________ 1983 Toyota SR5 Short Bed 4x4 3" suspension lift, 1.5" body lift 33x12.50 Firestone Destination M/T's Front and Rear Aussie Lockers 4.88 dif gears 4.70 Crawler tcase gear Stock 22R Hedman Header Custom Bumpers, Warn Winch

12-22-2008, 06:51 PM	#23 (permalink)
904_runner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chico, California Posts: 3,782	Yea 33's are too big! jk Yea im not sure what happened. now when we were speaking of lockrights i was thinking of the v6 modle, which is what i have. I have no knowledge of the 4cyl lockright and if it came down to it, i would definitly go aussie, but for the v6, the lockright had been fine for me. __________________ Mike 1990 4runner: 3.4 swapped, 5-speed, sas'd, Rear leaf swap, Locked, 5.29's, 39.5" iroks on Beadlocks, Armor'd Longfields, Duals coming soon: My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/904_run...thread-158746/ http://www.treadlightly.org/ http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ery/index.html

12-22-2008, 07:20 PM	#25 (permalink)
RaginYota Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Beale AFB Ca ( Marysville) Posts: 272	I have a detroit and have zero complaints. The truck is also my daily driver and the road manners are awesome, I can't tell it's even there. I was going to get an aussie but they don't have one for the V-6. I heard good and bad about Lockrights, but 904 likes his. Good luck with your decisoin. Laterz __________________ I did have a 1990 X-cab P/U, 3.0 SAS'd w/ 3" Trail Gear IFS Eliminator Kit, 4" Trail Gear Rear Lift Kit, 35" KM2s, Yukon 4.88s, Locked Front and Rear w/ Aussie and a Detroit, Sliders, M-8000 Warn Winch, But I sold it

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