installing a atv winch on your toyota

weakyota91 · 04-28-2007, 09:37 PM

[IMG]http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5mmyIDRG0hAAYSWjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=129rt5uti/EXP=1177907762/**http%3A//www.winchcentral.com/ATV/images/atvwinches.jpg[/IMG]i live here in redding C.A. and have probly seen 10 trucks running around with atv winches like this one 1200 lb pull capacity. Is this the new thing or what??? I know there alot cheaper but u cant expect that to recover a truck. anyone else seen this before????

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weakyota91 · 04-28-2007, 09:40 PM

sorry cant get pic to show up

ChickenLover · 04-28-2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by weakyota91

1200 lb pull capacity.

Only in Kalifornia.

FWIW, I've been in situations where my warn 9K was bogged down to a near stall. I guess a 1200lb winch would be helpful for pulling weeds or unwanted shrubs out of your garden. Other than that, I can't imagine what else you'd do with it (besides putting in on an atv).

DudeBud · 04-28-2007, 09:47 PM

weak..... nope never seen them on trucks

paxil4x4 · 04-28-2007, 10:06 PM

No offense, but Redding California is full of the lowest common denominator types. These people hangout at bolt on industries dreaming of the ultimate flat-biller or bro truck while trying to polish the turd they currently own.

Yes, I live here, so the ATV winch thing does not surprise me

**Tofer** · 04-28-2007, 10:33 PM

a guy i know has one on his jeep when i asked why the ATV winch he said "i dont wanna tlak about it" so yes i've seen it, but no i wouldnt recommend it.

KevinInSac · 04-28-2007, 11:15 PM

If one is tight on money, why would they waste it one something like that? Some people amaze me...

Scofco · 04-28-2007, 11:21 PM

There is a Toyota P/U in town that has one.
I asked him why he had a 1500lb winch on his truck.

"Because my truck is 1500lbs."

thook · 04-28-2007, 11:36 PM

Actually, I use my 4rnr for firewood during the winter months and quite frequently have to pull the trees out of the woods to get it to the road. Usually, I cut and split it and then pull it on a sled.....lots of work! But, I've considered putting an ATV wench on just for that. It would probably also come in handy times I'm salvaging heavy building materials. That's all I'd used it for, though. I'd make it easily detachable, too.

On the other hand, if I had the dough, I'd just get a real wench.

bob200587 · 04-29-2007, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by thook

Actually, I use my 4rnr for firewood during the winter months and quite frequently have to pull the trees out of the woods to get it to the road. Usually, I cut and split it and then pull it on a sled.....lots of work! But, I've considered putting an ATV wench on just for that. It would probably also come in handy times I'm salvaging heavy building materials. That's all I'd used it for, though. I'd make it easily detachable, too.

On the other hand, if I had the dough, I'd just get a real wench.

Yea, they make utility winches that are good for that kind of stuff. You can get them in self contained units, hitch mounts, etc. If I had a farm I'd probably have one for my other trucks, in addition to a M8000 on my runner.

Erich_870 · 04-29-2007, 12:28 AM

Use 8 snatch blocks and a couple hundred feet of cable and you might be okay

I'd say it would be cheaper to just go with an 8,000lb winch though.

Erich

thook · 04-29-2007, 01:10 AM

Snatch blocks?! That's a damn fine idea. Cable, though? I found some 1200lb test poly rope last winter at a local outdoor supplier I've been using to repair the barn roof....as safety line with blocks and climbing harness. Much cheaper than cable and lighter to haul. Now you've got me thinking, though. The runner, the rope, the snatch blocks...hmmm...may not need a winch.<<<BUT IT WOULD SO FOIKIN' COOL!!!>>>> Ha! I'd be the envy of all my rural neighbors.

I actually have one distant neighbor who has a Warn on his Cheep. I don't think it's worked in years. Oh well, atleast he looks good with his 35's and camo paint.

CyMoN · 04-29-2007, 01:12 AM

I have one of those self contained one we used it on a timber framed building to lift some heavy logs up into place then I used it to pull a wall square on a project where the guy effed up a corner.
then I used it to pull a non running 4 runner on to a trailer.
also pulled a 1970 VW bus onto a trailer.

I would only carry it as a last resort but I have a 20k comealong for if I get stuck

Erich_870 · 04-29-2007, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Erich_870

Use 8 snatch blocks and a couple hundred feet of cable and you might be okay

I'd say it would be cheaper to just go with an 8,000lb winch though.

Erich

This got me thinking and I did some quick calcs. Let me know if I messed up anywhere

Warn M8000 winch:

Line pull on first layer: 8000lb at 8 ft/min., 100ft of cable.

Warn 1.5ci ATV winch:

Line pull on first layer: 1500lb at 5 ft/min., 50ft of 1/4" cable.

To pull 8000lbs at a distance of 100' you'd need 4 snatch blocks and replace the stock cable with 500ft of 5/16" cable. Also, you'd only see a line speed of 1ft/min! Roughly 8 hours later, you might be done!

Another thing to note; the Warn 1.5ci only uses a 10 gauge power wire

(I don't even consider that a "cable"

)

On to prices from 4Wheel Parts:

Warn 8000M w/ 100' of 5/16" cable: $526

Warn 1.5ci ATV Winch w/ 50' of 1/4 cable: $261
100ft 5/16" main cable replacement: $140
4: 50' 5/16" cable extensions $82 each = $328
4 snatch blocks at $66 each = $264

Grand total: $993

Erich

thook · 04-29-2007, 01:47 AM

No arguing with your facts. But, I haven't even the $261 for the ATV wench...much less the 8000m. And the snatch blocks? THOSE are expensive. I can get the same much, much cheaper at the Tractor Supply. In fact, I have two already...

You should know I have no knowledge or experience with winches and their technical aspects. I just live in the woods and make do with what I have and what I can afford. At the moment, I can only dream of something like an 8000m. I suppose in my thinking an ATV winch was/is more in my budget. In light of your informed reasoning, even a used ATV winch at say $50 is still an impractical (even use downright useless) waste of time and energy. I'll have to look into one of those utility winches. Who knows, I may find a good 8000m or equivalent at an auction. (I've just started going to those). Lots of farm equipment, etc. always going at good prices there. If nothing else, I still have a sled and my donkey.

Gentlemen, meet Fred.

HEEHAW! I got your winch, wench! Hahaha!

FredTJ · 04-29-2007, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scofco

There is a Toyota P/U in town that has one.
I asked him why he had a 1500lb winch on his truck.

"Because my truck is 1500lbs."

Which is why people should have to be licensed before they have kids

JUST KIDDING !!!

Fred

FredTJ · 04-29-2007, 07:28 AM

For thos of y'all that are running 8000 lb winches, have any of you (or anyone else for that matter), weighed your 4Runner fully load with all the gear you wheel with (people and food included) ??

Fred

4bytruckin · 04-29-2007, 07:56 AM

well i use one for loading bucks into the bed of my truck

fthertime666 · 04-29-2007, 08:12 AM

well, I guess I'm not up on latest. I had to google flatbiller... seems pretty dumb IMO.

INFINITY · 04-29-2007, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 4bytruckin

well i use one for loading bucks into the bed of my truck

same here but elk

tc · 04-29-2007, 09:35 AM

Molly has one on her truck.

No, really - in the back. It's used to suck down the suspension - kinda like an on demand limiting strap.

FredTJ · 04-29-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tc

Molly has one on her truck.

No, really - in the back. It's used to suck down the suspension - kinda like an on demand limiting strap.

That idea has actually been in use for a few years now.
Currie first used it on their original comp. Jeep some years ago.
They had a hydraulic setup to suck up the front axle on steep climbs as lifted Jeeps ('96 forward with coils) tend to want to unload the front axle.
We've used ATV winches in the front of Jeeps for 6 years or so just for that.
To stop the front axle from unloading on steep climbs.

Fred

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Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,908	a guy i know has one on his jeep when i asked why the ATV winch he said "i dont wanna tlak about it" so yes i've seen it, but no i wouldnt recommend it. __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

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Scofco Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,577	There is a Toyota P/U in town that has one. I asked him why he had a 1500lb winch on his truck. "Because my truck is 1500lbs." __________________

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paxil4x4 Drama Queen/Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 816	No offense, but Redding California is full of the lowest common denominator types. These people hangout at bolt on industries dreaming of the ultimate flat-biller or bro truck while trying to polish the turd they currently own. Yes, I live here, so the ATV winch thing does not surprise me

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Erich_870 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Juneau, AK Posts: 973	Use 8 snatch blocks and a couple hundred feet of cable and you might be okay I'd say it would be cheaper to just go with an 8,000lb winch though. Erich __________________ 99' Black Highlander 4runner / Garage Profile Black powder coated 8x16 Wheeler Off-Road allow wheels / Husky floor liners / Thule MOAB rack / Custom Sub Enclosure / Back-up lights "I don't high-light my hair, I've still got a pair, yeah honey, I'm still a guy. My eye brows aint plucked, there's a gun in my truck, Oh thank GOD, I'm still a guy!" Brad Paisley

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CyMoN Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: INDIANA Posts: 2,164	I have one of those self contained one we used it on a timber framed building to lift some heavy logs up into place then I used it to pull a wall square on a project where the guy effed up a corner. then I used it to pull a non running 4 runner on to a trailer. also pulled a 1970 VW bus onto a trailer. I would only carry it as a last resort but I have a 20k comealong for if I get stuck __________________ my rigs 89 4runner 1989 4runner v6 5 speed everything factory +4susplift running bfg 31s and a aux gas tank and more aux lights than needed 86 pickup 1986 stock pickup 22r 31.10 BFG ATs flatbed a sad day for the 4runner "One moment of patience may ward off great disaster. One moment of impatience may ruin a whole life."

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FredTJ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Age:60 Posts: 1,529	For thos of y'all that are running 8000 lb winches, have any of you (or anyone else for that matter), weighed your 4Runner fully load with all the gear you wheel with (people and food included) ?? Fred

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