dayota

Well I got my truck lifted bj spacers, 2" blocks, new shocks, 33x10.5 bfg km2's. 4.56's yatta yatta.

Now im looking for more power and yes i have looked into tons of things in these forums. I wish to keep the 22re. I have started with new e3 plugs, it has a new rebuilt head, and i made a cold air intake, richened afm one click, this has made a difference already.

After much research I believe I have decided on doing header, exhaust, crawler cam, and new higher output coil. Im wondering if it is worth it to take my head off and have oversized valves installed or buy a performance head or wut? I don't want my mpg to plummet either. What kind of trouble can you forsee with any of my plans. Please give me your honest opinions. Im just checking with you more knowledable people before I go with my plan and screw something up. Thanks in advance.

olharleyman

Man if your going to do the new over sized valves head and header you might as well just rebuild the entire motor so you have everything fresh plus get the full potential out of it plus the bonus of lots of miles ahead.

dayota

ya true. The only thing is is that it blows good numberss on compression check. I think i might forget about the o/s valves.

dayota

Is a 2" exhaust large enough for these mods or will the 1/4 make a huge difference?

whokrz

I know you said you want to keep the 22re and I can relate to that because I kept mine vs a engine swap. I chose to rebuild it and keep it stock though, you are talking about spending a lot of money trying to gain power. If you want good power the 22re is not a very good place to get it from, lots of money for not much power.

toyota4x4907

Good idea on keeping the 22re :ok: You say you have 4.56 gears with 33x10.5s. If you can, get some 4.88s. That will take it back to feeling stock. an all stock truck feels pretty good, especially if you're used to the 90-100 hp at the wheels

AZ89LONGBED

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Buy a 150 shot of nitrous... hehehehehe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sCsyka4M1U

dayota

my 4.56 do feel stock and with 4.88's id be revving out too high on the highway or else i would. As for the money thing I figured an engine swap would be more money and I don't need 180-200hp. Just an extra kick.

norcalsvx

i run the 261 cam/intake/lce header/o/s valves, 4 clicks 4.88's w/33x10.50's and its still pretty slow (but better than stock) 3.4l / 3rz swap or supra swap is the way to go

84YotaBuck

I'm running 31" tires and 4:10 gears, engbldr 268 cam, 2 1/4 catback exhaust, and weber 32/36. Never driven a fuel injected 22RE, assume it's got a little more kick than my 22R, but with the mods I've got I can't complain. She's no dragster, but will climb hills, and maintain on the freeway no problem. I think as long as you keep in the powerband and aren't lugging along in the wrong gear you should be ok with what you have plus a upgraded exhaust and new cam.

Matt16

Its probably cheaper to swap in a supra motor and you'll get real power. Those 22RE mods will cost you a fair bit and you'll only maybe get 20rwhp- which means it might feel like the v6.. ie: still slow.

dayota

Thanks for the opinions. I will debate on them for awhile. I figured cost of building up my motor with all the parts would be about grand. Idk how much a supra swap would cost though. Im sure more, i also want to keep my 5 speed and drivetrain.

Lumpy

I have pretty much the same setup except I have the 22re...She runs quite well and I pull most hills in 5th some of the bigger I have to drop to 4th but not too often (on the main roads). I don't know what she did stock, she was a mess when I got her.

dayota

ya mine was kindof too. purrss now though. I looked into the supra swap and it looks fairly straight forward ans simplier than others. Ill have to look deeper haha

abecedarian

well the trick to MPG's is finding the balance between gas pedal and engine rpm's- basically you want the lowest of both that keeps your speed. If you're at 3/4 pedal and the engine's revving say 2600, changing gears may make the engine rev at 2800 but if you're only at 1/4 pedal to maintain speed, you're likely to get better mileage.

Anyhow, Toyota shipped these things out with the engine basically at the best state of tuning they could with the electronics they had to get the best overall balance of low-end performance and keep mileage respectable. I've never seen a 30 MPG average 22RE (even on a Celica) so keep that in mind. Celica's weigh a bit less than a 4x4 truck so they can have different gearing, accelerate faster and get somewhat better mileage... but I can baby my 4Runner to 25 MPG if I don't have many tall, long hills to climb. Even then, I can coax ~20 MPG out of my stock 22re with 240K miles on it.

Something to remember is that more power at any particular RPM will sacrifice power at other RPM's. An RV cam will usually shift the powerband to lower RPM's, so in order to keep mileage in check, taller gears will be required (given the same size tire) so that the engine RPM's and peak torque occur at nearly the same highway speed. Go to larger tires and you'll need lower gears because if you don't you'll have to press the go-fast pedal farther (meaning more fuel) in order to produce enough power at that RPM to maintain speed and overcome the higher wind-resistance of the larger tires. Yeah, simply gearing lower to compensate for the rolling circumference of a larger tire isn't quite enough since a larger tire isn't only "larger" () but also creates more drag.

wyoming9

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i love my 22rec engines and 22r now I am no doubt older than most.

But get real how much power do you want out of a 4 cylinder. Give me the long life easy to work on .

You want power and want to keep it in the Toyota Family go with the 7MGTE

You want parts aftermarket support small block chevy .

For the best advice try and track down Ted from Engine builder i hear he is semi retired but he is a great source for 22r or rec engine information

my 2 cents

yotamudking8

i got 33s with 4:88s and it only revs out to 3grand in 5th goin 75 on the high way