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Flek23 · 11-12-2008, 06:59 AM

Here is a better picture of the piston tops. I think your talking about the raised ring on top of the pistons.

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83 · 11-12-2008, 10:04 AM

I love new engines.

Good work!

Flek23 · 11-12-2008, 03:09 PM

The Retrosound Model One has a mini USB jack and will play music from a thumb drive through that. It also has a stereo mini jack auxiliary input and supposedly will play any electronic device through that. I'm hoping to be able to play an iPhone through the mini jack but still have to get a cable to fit.

Flek23 · 11-12-2008, 03:10 PM

Today I finished wiring the new retrosound model one radio and it sounds so much better even through the old crappy stock speakers. I'm thinking about using the holes in the dash - where the defrost vent would go if I had them - for speakers. I also discovered today that a camshaft retainer bolt is stripped. I've not done a tap/helicoil operation before so it should be interesting to see how that goes.

toydoc · 11-13-2008, 04:45 AM

From the most recent picture it is clear that these are the correct pistons. Therefor I will assume that the rest of the kit is correct. Tapping and Helicoiling is very simple, I'm sure you'll be able to do it with ease. Seeing your build is inspiring me to get out my 79 short box and do a restore. Its been in storage since 1985. Most likly it'll start in less than 1/2 an hour.
Keep on with the good work.
TOYDOC

red1983 · 11-13-2008, 08:51 AM

I really like the way your build is going! I think I will be looking into the retrosound 1 for my truck... Photos of the cherry veneer yet?

Flek23 · 11-13-2008, 01:17 PM

I Picked up a few yards of a plaid fabric for accent trim as well as a swatch of the vinyl that will be used on the dash pad, center console, gauge housing and seats. The vinyl looks like a rawhide leather which is what I originally wanted to do but couldn't deal with the expense. I spoke with the guys at "Justdashes", they can make the dashpanel look brand new (they say) but it will cost about $750. I found an auto upholstery shop in Atlanta that I'm working with to do the whole thing as a package more to come on their price. Still waiting on the head bolts, timing cover, water pump, veneer and boston speakers so no progress currently.

Flek23 · 11-15-2008, 06:32 AM

The helicoil operation really was very straightforward and took longer to clean up than the actual installation (to bad aluminum isn't magnetic). Got the new head bolts, water pump and timing cover so was able to get her all buttoned up yesterday. Had a "small" snafu with the timing cover install. The Haynes manual did not show that the tensioner bolts needed to be installed before putting on the timing cover. For some reason I was thinking that they were bolts that went through the cover. Duh! So had to take it off, go to auto zone for a new gasket and start over when I noticed I had two bolts left on my engine bolt box. Got me a little aggrivated but nothing a few beers at the VFW didn't fix.

Flek23 · 11-16-2008, 07:49 AM

Got her all sealed up while I get all the brackets, pulleys and other stuff ready to put back on. It's getting a little windy here in GA so I may need a tent or something to finish paining. Once I get everything back together I'll get into the carb. I don't want to start that until I have less parts all over the place.

freddy · 11-16-2008, 08:34 AM

more,more,more!!

yotaboy82 · 11-16-2008, 10:35 AM

not to get off topic or anything but i see a nitro powered radio controled airplane in the backround witch motor u putting in it?, i race nitro buggys and truggys

Flek23 · 11-16-2008, 11:16 AM

I was stationed at Osan AFB, South Korea from 03 to 04 and kinda got into RC to make the time away from my family go by. I've always been into building planes but have had too much inadvertent ground contact to try to fly em' anymore. I just gave a seriously hopped up HPI to a buddy who is currently in Korea and going through some rough stuff with his family back home. My daughter and I still get out the Losi XXXT's once in a while but I don't mess with nitro much anymore. They don't store well and with the electrics we can get em' out once a year and just have to charge the batteries. If you know anyone interested in my OFNA Titan or my Team Associated RC10GT let me know I'd let em go for a reasonable offer.

yotaboy82 · 11-16-2008, 09:42 PM

hey man, ya i have a team associated RC8 and mugen mbx5t, man thoes titans are da bomb lol, i had a team losi xxxnt also way back in the day lol

83 · 11-17-2008, 06:40 AM

Aside from getting your gasket (or anything other than maybe oil...) at Autozone, good work! I wouldn't skimp on gaskets...

Flek23 · 11-17-2008, 07:18 AM

The Veneer was delivered today. 2' x 8' sheet ended up being $60. Should be plenty to cover goof-ups. It has a pressure sensitive adhesive already on it so we'll see how that adheres, may end up having to use an epoxy but we shall see.

The gasket I picked up at Advanced was a felpro so hopefully it will seal, fingers crossed.

Something really cool happened this morning when I was taking my 10 year old daughter to school. We were talking about the sound the engine makes in my 91 and how we probably ought to rebuild it soon. She says "Dad it's probably those timing chain guides are shot just like in the 83". I couldn't have been more proud because she was exactly right. It has the old timing chain slap and my 10 year old diagnosed it like a pro. Just goes to show the value of letting her help. This knowledge will be with her for the rest of her life. It just tickled me and I wanted to tell somebody about it.

83 · 11-17-2008, 07:55 AM

That's very cool! It will especially come in handy since she's a girl.
Felpro aught to be fine. I bought some hoses from autozone when I replaced all my hoses, and a few from Toyota, and even one from Carquest, and the autozone hoses were by far the worst quality of the three, so I just don't trust getting much from them these days.

Nice veneer. I may do something like that someday.

Flek23 · 11-17-2008, 08:06 AM

It's bewildering to me when I hear people talk about getting parts from Toyota. I've been down to my local dealership several times and they give me the cold shoulder. They say they have zero parts available for an 83. I need front and rear window seals to put in after the paint work and upholstery are done and I've had trouble hunting them down. Seems like some geographic locations have no problems getting part's from Toyota. WTF?

83 · 11-17-2008, 08:41 AM

Not sure....I've never asked for a part that my dealership couldn't get me...haven't tried for window seals, although they're on my list. The guys at my dealership are great, they don't even make me pre-pay anymore and depending on who's behind the counter, I even get the parts discount.

So how do you like working on the engine? Funny thing my machine shop guy said to me. He said something like "I don't know about you, but I hate working on vehicles". I kind of looked at him weird, so he said "engines are fine, I love that, but not vehicles". Makes sense. You've got a nice clean engine with a bunch of brand new parts, set on an engine stand. So have fun because soon you're going to be bent over in all kinds of uncomfortable positions getting really dirty and banging your knuckles on things!

Flek23 · 11-17-2008, 07:36 PM

Made the templates for the cherry veneer dash trim while I am waiting for paint to cure.

yotaboy82 · 11-17-2008, 07:50 PM

man, that is SWEET, reading this engine rebuild and stuff, totally makes me wanna do this to mine( i have to anyways ) lol but mine might need more work, i need new cab mounts in the back, and patch the frame behind the cab ( dang canadian roads ) and new springs

Flek23 · 11-18-2008, 10:36 PM

Got a few things done today. Still hoping for one more warm day to finish some painting (with as little wind as possible LOL). Planning to order an Holley reman Aisin and a Zoom Kevlar clutch in a few days. Oh, and I talked to the guys at Summit Racing today, they told me that a Toyota Dealership has to be set up to get parts direct from Japan for something like my 83. Not likely the case in this little town so maybe I'll try calling some of the dealerships in Atlanta to see if I have any better luck.

83 · 11-19-2008, 06:41 AM

That's looking really nice.

I guess that would make sense with the dealership...that could be why mine is at least a 2 day wait for any part other than spark plugs/wires etc. Plus I don't know about where you are, but there are a lot of older Toyotas around here. Not many as old as mine, but lots of mid-late '80s.

Flek23 · 11-19-2008, 03:42 PM

It was just warm enough this afternoon to finish painting brackets and pulley's. I considered having the majority of this stuff powder-coated but the expense seemed too great. I hope I don't regret it down the road. I'll be letting this stuff cure in the heated shop for a while before I finish assembly. Not sure how well it'll all hold up, I hope I'm not disappointed.

Flek23 · 11-19-2008, 08:46 PM

Well...I just spend about 5 hours cutting and sanding and test fitting this piece of cherry. This small piece is almost there but I'm done for the night. This is going to take a LOT of time. I hope it looks as good when it's done as I imagined it would. Once I get the fit I will finish it with a hot boiled linseed oil and beeswax mixture to warm up the look of the cherry.

83 · 11-20-2008, 06:33 AM

That looks really nice. Good work.

11-12-2008, 10:04 AM	#27 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	I love new engines. Good work! __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

11-12-2008, 03:09 PM	#28 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Ipod Connection The Retrosound Model One has a mini USB jack and will play music from a thumb drive through that. It also has a stereo mini jack auxiliary input and supposedly will play any electronic device through that. I'm hoping to be able to play an iPhone through the mini jack but still have to get a cable to fit. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox Last edited by Flek23; 11-12-2008 at 06:03 PM.

11-12-2008, 03:10 PM	#29 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	The Good and The Bad Today I finished wiring the new retrosound model one radio and it sounds so much better even through the old crappy stock speakers. I'm thinking about using the holes in the dash - where the defrost vent would go if I had them - for speakers. I also discovered today that a camshaft retainer bolt is stripped. I've not done a tap/helicoil operation before so it should be interesting to see how that goes. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox Last edited by Flek23; 11-12-2008 at 06:04 PM.

11-13-2008, 01:17 PM	#32 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Upholstery Scheme Selection I Picked up a few yards of a plaid fabric for accent trim as well as a swatch of the vinyl that will be used on the dash pad, center console, gauge housing and seats. The vinyl looks like a rawhide leather which is what I originally wanted to do but couldn't deal with the expense. I spoke with the guys at "Justdashes", they can make the dashpanel look brand new (they say) but it will cost about $750. I found an auto upholstery shop in Atlanta that I'm working with to do the whole thing as a package more to come on their price. Still waiting on the head bolts, timing cover, water pump, veneer and boston speakers so no progress currently. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox Last edited by Flek23; 11-13-2008 at 01:20 PM.

11-15-2008, 06:32 AM	#33 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Cylinders Sealed Up The helicoil operation really was very straightforward and took longer to clean up than the actual installation (to bad aluminum isn't magnetic). Got the new head bolts, water pump and timing cover so was able to get her all buttoned up yesterday. Had a "small" snafu with the timing cover install. The Haynes manual did not show that the tensioner bolts needed to be installed before putting on the timing cover. For some reason I was thinking that they were bolts that went through the cover. Duh! So had to take it off, go to auto zone for a new gasket and start over when I noticed I had two bolts left on my engine bolt box. Got me a little aggrivated but nothing a few beers at the VFW didn't fix. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox Last edited by Flek23; 11-15-2008 at 06:37 AM.

11-13-2008, 04:45 AM	#30 (permalink)
toydoc Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4	From the most recent picture it is clear that these are the correct pistons. Therefor I will assume that the rest of the kit is correct. Tapping and Helicoiling is very simple, I'm sure you'll be able to do it with ease. Seeing your build is inspiring me to get out my 79 short box and do a restore. Its been in storage since 1985. Most likly it'll start in less than 1/2 an hour. Keep on with the good work. TOYDOC

11-13-2008, 08:51 AM	#31 (permalink)
red1983 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 162	I really like the way your build is going! I think I will be looking into the retrosound 1 for my truck... Photos of the cherry veneer yet?

11-16-2008, 07:49 AM	#34 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Looking at it makes me feel funny inside. Got her all sealed up while I get all the brackets, pulleys and other stuff ready to put back on. It's getting a little windy here in GA so I may need a tent or something to finish paining. Once I get everything back together I'll get into the carb. I don't want to start that until I have less parts all over the place. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox

11-16-2008, 08:34 AM	#35 (permalink)
freddy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Orlando Posts: 155	more,more,more!! __________________ 4"lift,31 AT goodyears,20mpg on HW!!

11-16-2008, 10:35 AM	#36 (permalink)
yotaboy82 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 259	not to get off topic or anything but i see a nitro powered radio controled airplane in the backround witch motor u putting in it?, i race nitro buggys and truggys __________________ 1982 Toyota 4x4 22r Weber 34/34 complete frame off resto still needs paint 3'' lift 33" mickey tompson baja claws

11-16-2008, 11:16 AM	#37 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	History I was stationed at Osan AFB, South Korea from 03 to 04 and kinda got into RC to make the time away from my family go by. I've always been into building planes but have had too much inadvertent ground contact to try to fly em' anymore. I just gave a seriously hopped up HPI to a buddy who is currently in Korea and going through some rough stuff with his family back home. My daughter and I still get out the Losi XXXT's once in a while but I don't mess with nitro much anymore. They don't store well and with the electrics we can get em' out once a year and just have to charge the batteries. If you know anyone interested in my OFNA Titan or my Team Associated RC10GT let me know I'd let em go for a reasonable offer. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox

11-16-2008, 09:42 PM	#38 (permalink)
yotaboy82 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 259	hey man, ya i have a team associated RC8 and mugen mbx5t, man thoes titans are da bomb lol, i had a team losi xxxnt also way back in the day lol __________________ 1982 Toyota 4x4 22r Weber 34/34 complete frame off resto still needs paint 3'' lift 33" mickey tompson baja claws

11-17-2008, 06:40 AM	#39 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	Aside from getting your gasket (or anything other than maybe oil...) at Autozone, good work! I wouldn't skimp on gaskets... __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

11-17-2008, 07:18 AM	#40 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Veneer The Veneer was delivered today. 2' x 8' sheet ended up being $60. Should be plenty to cover goof-ups. It has a pressure sensitive adhesive already on it so we'll see how that adheres, may end up having to use an epoxy but we shall see. The gasket I picked up at Advanced was a felpro so hopefully it will seal, fingers crossed. Something really cool happened this morning when I was taking my 10 year old daughter to school. We were talking about the sound the engine makes in my 91 and how we probably ought to rebuild it soon. She says "Dad it's probably those timing chain guides are shot just like in the 83". I couldn't have been more proud because she was exactly right. It has the old timing chain slap and my 10 year old diagnosed it like a pro. Just goes to show the value of letting her help. This knowledge will be with her for the rest of her life. It just tickled me and I wanted to tell somebody about it. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox Last edited by Flek23; 11-17-2008 at 07:32 AM.

11-17-2008, 07:55 AM	#41 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	That's very cool! It will especially come in handy since she's a girl. Felpro aught to be fine. I bought some hoses from autozone when I replaced all my hoses, and a few from Toyota, and even one from Carquest, and the autozone hoses were by far the worst quality of the three, so I just don't trust getting much from them these days. Nice veneer. I may do something like that someday. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

11-17-2008, 08:06 AM	#42 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Part Resources It's bewildering to me when I hear people talk about getting parts from Toyota. I've been down to my local dealership several times and they give me the cold shoulder. They say they have zero parts available for an 83. I need front and rear window seals to put in after the paint work and upholstery are done and I've had trouble hunting them down. Seems like some geographic locations have no problems getting part's from Toyota. WTF? __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox Last edited by Flek23; 11-19-2008 at 08:50 PM.

11-17-2008, 08:41 AM	#43 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	Not sure....I've never asked for a part that my dealership couldn't get me...haven't tried for window seals, although they're on my list. The guys at my dealership are great, they don't even make me pre-pay anymore and depending on who's behind the counter, I even get the parts discount. So how do you like working on the engine? Funny thing my machine shop guy said to me. He said something like "I don't know about you, but I hate working on vehicles". I kind of looked at him weird, so he said "engines are fine, I love that, but not vehicles". Makes sense. You've got a nice clean engine with a bunch of brand new parts, set on an engine stand. So have fun because soon you're going to be bent over in all kinds of uncomfortable positions getting really dirty and banging your knuckles on things! __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

11-17-2008, 07:36 PM	#44 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Cherry Veneer Dash Trim Made the templates for the cherry veneer dash trim while I am waiting for paint to cure. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox

11-17-2008, 07:50 PM	#45 (permalink)
yotaboy82 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 259	man, that is SWEET, reading this engine rebuild and stuff, totally makes me wanna do this to mine( i have to anyways ) lol but mine might need more work, i need new cab mounts in the back, and patch the frame behind the cab ( dang canadian roads ) and new springs __________________ 1982 Toyota 4x4 22r Weber 34/34 complete frame off resto still needs paint 3'' lift 33" mickey tompson baja claws

11-18-2008, 10:36 PM	#46 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Winter, G'rage, Kerosene Heater, And An Engine; It's A Beautiful Thing Got a few things done today. Still hoping for one more warm day to finish some painting (with as little wind as possible LOL). Planning to order an Holley reman Aisin and a Zoom Kevlar clutch in a few days. Oh, and I talked to the guys at Summit Racing today, they told me that a Toyota Dealership has to be set up to get parts direct from Japan for something like my 83. Not likely the case in this little town so maybe I'll try calling some of the dealerships in Atlanta to see if I have any better luck. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox Last edited by Flek23; 11-18-2008 at 10:42 PM.

11-19-2008, 06:41 AM	#47 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	That's looking really nice. I guess that would make sense with the dealership...that could be why mine is at least a 2 day wait for any part other than spark plugs/wires etc. Plus I don't know about where you are, but there are a lot of older Toyotas around here. Not many as old as mine, but lots of mid-late '80s. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

11-19-2008, 03:42 PM	#48 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Finished Painting Engine Parts It was just warm enough this afternoon to finish painting brackets and pulley's. I considered having the majority of this stuff powder-coated but the expense seemed too great. I hope I don't regret it down the road. I'll be letting this stuff cure in the heated shop for a while before I finish assembly. Not sure how well it'll all hold up, I hope I'm not disappointed. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox

11-19-2008, 08:46 PM	#49 (permalink)
Flek23 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 224	Dash Veneer Well...I just spend about 5 hours cutting and sanding and test fitting this piece of cherry. This small piece is almost there but I'm done for the night. This is going to take a LOT of time. I hope it looks as good when it's done as I imagined it would. Once I get the fit I will finish it with a hot boiled linseed oil and beeswax mixture to warm up the look of the cherry. __________________ Jason 83 SR5 4x4 shortbed (Project) 91 DLX 4x4 xcab auto (Daily Driver) "Prosperity will have it's season, even when it's here it's going by; when it's gone we pretend we know the reasons, but all the roots grow deeper when it's dry." David Wilcox Last edited by Flek23; 11-20-2008 at 04:49 AM.

11-20-2008, 06:33 AM	#50 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,694	That looks really nice. Good work. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

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