My 82 is a go-cart now

crhannig · 10-16-2009, 10:23 PM

I changed out my shocks today and as I taking for a test drive about a 1/4 mile away from my mom's home the engine started to like a go-cart.. it was kind of sputtering and not sounding right and then it didn't seem have full power.

After I got all my stuff packed up and headed back to my house. It started all over, I thought maybe it was the gas as I was almost empty. So I stopped and filled it up. Then it wouldn't start, it took maybe 10 cranks to get to fire. once it started it hard to keep it running, I then headed home, it was slow ride as I couldn't get over 35 miles per hour no matter what gear I was in.

My truck sounds like cars you get to drive at Disneyland on their little freeway. it sounds like a go-cart and is about as fast.

All the gauges read normal all the way home. I have no idea what could be wrong, not a mech guy.

it is a 22r with a weber carb.

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turboboost · 10-16-2009, 10:26 PM

I'd be willing to bet it's ignition related. I had a similar problem and it ended up being my distributor cap being filled with corrosion. After I replaced the plugs, cap, and rotor, it ran like the day it came out of the factory.

crhannig · 10-16-2009, 10:48 PM

I will check that out in the morning, thanks for the info

turboboost · 10-16-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crhannig

I will check that out in the morning, thanks for the info

I'd just check the plugs first, it's a possibility they could be fouled, I've seen that happen many times before too.

crhannig · 10-17-2009, 11:34 AM

BTW the plugs, distribuator and wires all looked good.

I took off the air cleaner and it smelled like gas, and was sorta wet with gas. The carb looks clean, but the floats do stick when it being started and afterwards the exhaust smells like fuel.

crhannig · 10-17-2009, 03:36 PM

I tried some carb cleaner that did not help. I did notice what looks like some fuel leakage under the carb though.

and then looking more at motor I found something that I am not sure if is suppose to have a hose hooked up to or not.

and if it does need a hose, I have no idea where it connects too.

peow130 · 10-17-2009, 03:56 PM

that hose goes into the stock airfilter thingy for the carb.
just plug it up, because that's a vacuum leak lol

komh98 · 10-18-2009, 06:14 PM

My lil yota did that same thing. I pulled the valve cover off and noticed that the top timing gear bolt backed off. The truck still ran but not good at all. I tightened the bolt back down. When I tightened the bolt back down the timing went right back to normal. So I guess I got lucky. So you might want to check that!

crhannig · 10-18-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by komh98

My lil yota did that same thing. I pulled the valve cover off and noticed that the top timing gear bolt backed off. The truck still ran but not good at all. I tightened the bolt back down. When I tightened the bolt back down the timing went right back to normal. So I guess I got lucky. So you might want to check that!

Thanks,< I give that a look.

82odyota · 10-18-2009, 09:23 PM

its a far shot but its not impossible with ur low fuel level u sucked some junk up and now u have a restriction in ur filter? just something to check. and its cheap to change and should be done more than most of us do anyway. Spark, Air, Fuel. get those and go more in depth.

red1983 · 10-21-2009, 07:38 PM

x2 on the fuel filter. I had wierd stuff happen w/ a clogged fuel filter, I wonder if all that extra fuel in/around the carb is because in attempting to get it moving/ started you're flooding it out. I would assume that the carb is not nessicarly the place to start, I think it is a product of the problem, not the problem itself, but I also have never had this issue.

crhannig · 10-26-2009, 08:52 AM

we found out the problem this weekend.. Need to rebuild the carb, part of the problem is the Accelerator Pump Diaphragm has tears in it.

and while we got it apart we are going to the vent mod to make it climb.

crhannig · 11-02-2009, 12:35 PM

Well I got the carb rebuilt and slapped on and suprise the truck is still running bad. We did a compression check and #3 & #4 Cylinders were very low. The guy doing the work is going to dig into the engine and see what is going on.

crhannig · 11-02-2009, 10:26 PM

Well it looks like I need a new head. the head gasket is shot between the #3 and #4 cylinders, along with the head. there is about an 1/2 gouge between the cylinders with a dip/divot in the middle.

It seems when that happened it backfired thru the intake manifold and out the carb, which is what fried the Carb.

Now i am trying to find a new head for 82 22R.

22RUCRAZY · 11-02-2009, 11:08 PM

engnbldr.com i am very pleased with the cylinder head i got from them , There are cheap ones on ebay but some are junk

crhannig · 11-03-2009, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 22RUCRAZY

engnbldr.com i am very pleased with the cylinder head i got from them , There are cheap ones on ebay but some are junk

The problem with the ones from engnbldr.com is that they are from 1985 on up. Which has different shaped ports, which means... new header and intake manifold.

22RUCRAZY · 11-04-2009, 04:41 PM

Ouch didnt realize that , you should go for a 20r hybrid

crhannig · 11-06-2009, 07:09 AM

Got a new head ordered last night, now just waiting on FedEx to deliver.

rowdy235 · 11-11-2009, 07:58 PM

Sounds good, good luck on gettin her going again

crhannig · 11-12-2009, 09:53 AM

Got the new head and gasket set dropped off to the guy doing the work. Hopefully I will be able to be up and running really soon.

Teuf · 11-12-2009, 11:36 AM

Dang, keep us posted n take some pics.

crhannig · 11-12-2009, 12:34 PM

I need to get some pics of the old head, which I can do when I go drop it off to get my core charge money back for the new head.

crhannig · 11-19-2009, 07:47 AM

I got the message last night that my truck is back to being road worthy. I am going pick it today afterwork. This weekend I will take it out and test it out.

83 · 11-19-2009, 09:10 AM

Awesome

crhannig · 11-19-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 83

Awesome

Thats how I feel!!!!!!

:bo unce:

10-16-2009, 10:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
turboboost Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 383	I'd be willing to bet it's ignition related. I had a similar problem and it ended up being my distributor cap being filled with corrosion. After I replaced the plugs, cap, and rotor, it ran like the day it came out of the factory. __________________ 1990 Toyota 4Runner - SR5, 22RE, 5 speed, 35" Mud King XT, a bunch of mods. 1986 Mazda B2000 - 5 speed, carb'd 2.0, the winter beater. 1979 Datsun 280zx - 2 seater, 5 speed, stripped interior, etc. 1998 Nissan Altima - 5 speed, 1981 280zx turbo snowflake rims. 1985 Toyota Pickup - SR5, 22RE, 5 speed, Xtra cab, lifted 2", 35" boggers, etc - Sold 1983 Datsun 280zx - Turbo Intercooled L28ET - Crushed. 1985 Nissan 300zx - 5 speed, race prepped, etc - Crushed. IFS Club #7 Last edited by turboboost; 10-16-2009 at 11:08 PM.

10-16-2009, 10:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
crhannig Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	I will check that out in the morning, thanks for the info __________________ C.R. Hannig 1982 Toyota Pickup 2008 FJ Cruiser

10-17-2009, 11:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
crhannig Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	BTW the plugs, distribuator and wires all looked good. I took off the air cleaner and it smelled like gas, and was sorta wet with gas. The carb looks clean, but the floats do stick when it being started and afterwards the exhaust smells like fuel. __________________ C.R. Hannig 1982 Toyota Pickup 2008 FJ Cruiser

10-17-2009, 03:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
crhannig Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	I tried some carb cleaner that did not help. I did notice what looks like some fuel leakage under the carb though. and then looking more at motor I found something that I am not sure if is suppose to have a hose hooked up to or not. and if it does need a hose, I have no idea where it connects too. __________________ C.R. Hannig 1982 Toyota Pickup 2008 FJ Cruiser

10-17-2009, 03:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
peow130 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 763	that hose goes into the stock airfilter thingy for the carb. just plug it up, because that's a vacuum leak lol __________________ 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX. 30" Cooper Discoverer S/T's. 1" AAL lift and Tbar crank. and two KC HiLites. IFS Club #5 1978 Camaro Z28, 454 Big Block V8 with a 4 Speed.

10-18-2009, 06:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
komh98 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northeast Texas Posts: 44	My lil yota did that same thing. I pulled the valve cover off and noticed that the top timing gear bolt backed off. The truck still ran but not good at all. I tightened the bolt back down. When I tightened the bolt back down the timing went right back to normal. So I guess I got lucky. So you might want to check that!

10-18-2009, 09:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
82odyota Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Palestine, IL Posts: 73	its a far shot but its not impossible with ur low fuel level u sucked some junk up and now u have a restriction in ur filter? just something to check. and its cheap to change and should be done more than most of us do anyway. Spark, Air, Fuel. get those and go more in depth. __________________ 82' 22r ,weber ,5.71 , 39.5 truxus sts, header, RV cam, valves, valve springs, 6" lift springs, 2" shackels 3" body. lot of od krylon ,smittybilt front on the back, Gettin paint, highsteer, and lookn to get rid of tires.

10-21-2009, 07:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
red1983 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 162	x2 on the fuel filter. I had wierd stuff happen w/ a clogged fuel filter, I wonder if all that extra fuel in/around the carb is because in attempting to get it moving/ started you're flooding it out. I would assume that the carb is not nessicarly the place to start, I think it is a product of the problem, not the problem itself, but I also have never had this issue. __________________ 1983 longbed Pickup 4x4 former truck: 1983 toyota pickup shortbed

10-26-2009, 08:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
crhannig Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	we found out the problem this weekend.. Need to rebuild the carb, part of the problem is the Accelerator Pump Diaphragm has tears in it. and while we got it apart we are going to the vent mod to make it climb. __________________ C.R. Hannig 1982 Toyota Pickup 2008 FJ Cruiser

11-02-2009, 12:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
crhannig Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	Well I got the carb rebuilt and slapped on and suprise the truck is still running bad. We did a compression check and #3 & #4 Cylinders were very low. The guy doing the work is going to dig into the engine and see what is going on. __________________ C.R. Hannig 1982 Toyota Pickup 2008 FJ Cruiser

11-02-2009, 10:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
crhannig Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	Well it looks like I need a new head. the head gasket is shot between the #3 and #4 cylinders, along with the head. there is about an 1/2 gouge between the cylinders with a dip/divot in the middle. It seems when that happened it backfired thru the intake manifold and out the carb, which is what fried the Carb. Now i am trying to find a new head for 82 22R. __________________ C.R. Hannig 1982 Toyota Pickup 2008 FJ Cruiser

11-02-2009, 11:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
22RUCRAZY Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: northern california Posts: 118	engnbldr.com i am very pleased with the cylinder head i got from them , There are cheap ones on ebay but some are junk

11-04-2009, 04:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
22RUCRAZY Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: northern california Posts: 118	Ouch didnt realize that , you should go for a 20r hybrid

11-06-2009, 07:09 AM	#18 (permalink)
crhannig Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	Got a new head ordered last night, now just waiting on FedEx to deliver. __________________ C.R. Hannig 1982 Toyota Pickup 2008 FJ Cruiser

11-11-2009, 07:58 PM	#19 (permalink)
rowdy235 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sweet Home, OR Posts: 1,562	Sounds good, good luck on gettin her going again __________________ The Daily Driver: 1998 Tacoma \| Regular Cab \| 4WD \| 2.7L \| 5-Speed Stick \| Mostly Stock The People-Hauler 1988 Grand Wagoneer \| SUV \| 4WD \| AMC 360 \| 3-Speed Auto \| All Stock The Dump Runner 1982 Pickup \| Regular Cab \| 2WD \| 22R \| 5-Speed Stick \| Custom Exhaust FER SALE! http://www.yotatech.com/f108/1982-sh.../#post51229916

11-12-2009, 09:53 AM	#20 (permalink)
crhannig Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	Got the new head and gasket set dropped off to the guy doing the work. Hopefully I will be able to be up and running really soon. __________________ C.R. Hannig 1982 Toyota Pickup 2008 FJ Cruiser

11-12-2009, 11:36 AM	#21 (permalink)
Teuf Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Napa, Ca Posts: 492	Dang, keep us posted n take some pics.

11-12-2009, 12:34 PM	#22 (permalink)
crhannig Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	I need to get some pics of the old head, which I can do when I go drop it off to get my core charge money back for the new head. __________________ C.R. Hannig 1982 Toyota Pickup 2008 FJ Cruiser

11-19-2009, 07:47 AM	#23 (permalink)
crhannig Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: las Vegas, NV Posts: 26	I got the message last night that my truck is back to being road worthy. I am going pick it today afterwork. This weekend I will take it out and test it out. __________________ C.R. Hannig 1982 Toyota Pickup 2008 FJ Cruiser

11-19-2009, 09:10 AM	#24 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,691	Awesome __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

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