CRONK4X

does anyone know if a 86 rearend is better then a 82 i need to replace mine and i have a extra rearend end out of my 86 is thatbetter or worse


also same thing with the tranny is the gearing diffrent or better please help me post back every question i ask everyone reads but no answers please help me

ozziesironmanoffroad

umm.... either rear end is pretty solid, but it mainly depends on if they are out of a xtra cab or single cab. ive heard the xtra cab axles are longer, thus giving the truck a wider wheel base. and with the tranny, i think it depends on if it was with the 20r or the 22r/22re. i THINK you can use the 22r/22re 5spd with the 20r engine, in fact ive heard the 20r transmission likes to fail in fourth gear. ive never owned one, im just going by what ive heard. hope this helps

CRONK4X

they both are single cabs with the 22r motor but is one better than then other ive heard the rear end out of a 86 is stronger but will the tranny and rear end just bolt right up our do i have to do modifications

SCYOTA

The rear axles out of IFS trucks are a little wider than the SFA trucks. Both have there places so it is really up to you.

CRONK4X

what do you mean by places is this a stupid thing to do. i really dont have a choice with the tranny mine is going ot and i can pull the good one out of my 86. the rear end i dont have to but i was wondering if it was better scince im alreadty in there why not. but i dont whant to mess anything up

SCYOTA

It will be fine as long as it has the same gear ratio. What I meant by each has its place is that some people want a wide axle because it is more stable. Some people like the narrower axle because you can get through tighter spots.

CRONK4X

thank you i will measure tomorow to see how much wider i did not even think about that

refried

the '82 will have a 4.32 gear ratio, the '86 will have a 4.11

dropzone

iTrader: (6)

The '86 Rear axle is 3 inches wider than the '82. You will need to run a set of 1.5" spacers up front on each side to get the front track width to match the rear. Spring pads should be the same.

I have never heard of there being a difference in a single cab vs. extended cab axle, just the difference between a 4 cyl rear end (8" ring gear) and a v-6 rear end (7.5" ring gear).

808derek

(copyed from pirates)

Axle info - Toyota

Toyota Mini Truck Front Axle Identification
79-80 no gusset
81-83 short gusset (to u-bolts)
84-85 long gusset (past u-bolts)

Stock Toyota front axle measurements for comparison:
55.5" wide, 29" spring perch centers, '79-85 Toyota trucks and 4runners, SA Hubs
58.25" wide, 29" spring perch centers, '79-85 Toyota trucks and 4runners, IFS Hubs
63.5" wide, (set up for coil springs) 90-97 FJ80 and FZJ80 Landcruisers
'86-95 IFS front end is about 58.5" wide
'93-98 T100 IFS front end is about 65" wide

Toyota Rear Axle Widths:
55" wide, '79-85 4wd trucks/4runners - 6 Lug
58" wide, '86-95 4wd trucks/4runners - 6 Lug
56" wide, '79-95 2wd Trucks - 5 Lug
60.75" wide, '95.5-up Tacomas/4runners
66.75" wide, '93-98 T100 trucks


Pickup and 4Runner Transmissions with 1st gear ratios.
L43 4 speed 79 - 80 3.67
L45 4 speed 81 - 82 3.93
L50 5 speed 81 - 82 3.93
L52 5 speed 83 3.93
G52 & G54 5 speed 84 - 88 (Carb) 3.93
W56 5 speed 85 - 95 (EFI) 3.95 Manual Hub Equipped Vehicles 89 and up Have W56, 89 and up ADD vehicles have G58.
R151F 5 speed 86 - 87 (turbo only) 4.31
G58 5 speed 89 - 95 3.93 ADD Equipped Vehicles
R150F (6 cyl) 5 speed 88+ 3.83

Identification:
G52/54 84-88' are twin stick, use a 8 bolt center section, 6 bolt gear t/case pattern, 21 spline output.
G58 89-95' twin stick, 8 bolt center, 9 bolt chain t/case, 26 spline
W56 85-88' (single stick), 89-95' (twin stick), 10 bolt center, 6 bolt t/case, 21 spline
R151F 86 - 87 (turbo only) will have two housings of four bolts each just like a G52, the difference would be the large rubber plug on the bottom of the bellhousing.

Info provided by Marlin Cralwer
All 84 to 95 22R trans are 25.5" long including the bellhousing. The only shorter trans is the 79-83 year trans which are 20.75" long with bellhousing. These early short trans have had a poor service record due in part to their small bearings and lighter gears. The 82-83 L52 5 speed which had a 80 x 20 mm front input bearing has had the best service record. A number of years ago, I invented a way to install a oversize 80 x 23 mm input bearing with an inproved gear set which features a greater helix angle for added strenght. I call it my L52HD and is the strongest 20.75" long trans



so ya this should answer all ur questions but if not browse through here lots and lots of good stuff http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459180

808derek

(copyed from pirates)

Axle info - Toyota

Toyota Mini Truck Front Axle Identification
79-80 no gusset
81-83 short gusset (to u-bolts)
84-85 long gusset (past u-bolts)

Stock Toyota front axle measurements for comparison:
55.5" wide, 29" spring perch centers, '79-85 Toyota trucks and 4runners, SA Hubs
58.25" wide, 29" spring perch centers, '79-85 Toyota trucks and 4runners, IFS Hubs
63.5" wide, (set up for coil springs) 90-97 FJ80 and FZJ80 Landcruisers
'86-95 IFS front end is about 58.5" wide
'93-98 T100 IFS front end is about 65" wide

Toyota Rear Axle Widths:
55" wide, '79-85 4wd trucks/4runners - 6 Lug
58" wide, '86-95 4wd trucks/4runners - 6 Lug
56" wide, '79-95 2wd Trucks - 5 Lug
60.75" wide, '95.5-up Tacomas/4runners
66.75" wide, '93-98 T100 trucks


Pickup and 4Runner Transmissions with 1st gear ratios.
L43 4 speed 79 - 80 3.67
L45 4 speed 81 - 82 3.93
L50 5 speed 81 - 82 3.93
L52 5 speed 83 3.93
G52 & G54 5 speed 84 - 88 (Carb) 3.93
W56 5 speed 85 - 95 (EFI) 3.95 Manual Hub Equipped Vehicles 89 and up Have W56, 89 and up ADD vehicles have G58.
R151F 5 speed 86 - 87 (turbo only) 4.31
G58 5 speed 89 - 95 3.93 ADD Equipped Vehicles
R150F (6 cyl) 5 speed 88+ 3.83

Identification:
G52/54 84-88' are twin stick, use a 8 bolt center section, 6 bolt gear t/case pattern, 21 spline output.
G58 89-95' twin stick, 8 bolt center, 9 bolt chain t/case, 26 spline
W56 85-88' (single stick), 89-95' (twin stick), 10 bolt center, 6 bolt t/case, 21 spline
R151F 86 - 87 (turbo only) will have two housings of four bolts each just like a G52, the difference would be the large rubber plug on the bottom of the bellhousing.

Info provided by Marlin Cralwer
All 84 to 95 22R trans are 25.5" long including the bellhousing. The only shorter trans is the 79-83 year trans which are 20.75" long with bellhousing. These early short trans have had a poor service record due in part to their small bearings and lighter gears. The 82-83 L52 5 speed which had a 80 x 20 mm front input bearing has had the best service record. A number of years ago, I invented a way to install a oversize 80 x 23 mm input bearing with an inproved gear set which features a greater helix angle for added strenght. I call it my L52HD and is the strongest 20.75" long trans



so ya this should answer all ur questions but if not browse through here lots and lots of good stuff http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459180

85TurboRunner

I believe the 86 tranny will be longer than the one in your 82. As for the axles, it is a direct swap, you'll need to find out what gears it has or just put your third in it. It will be wider like said above.

4banginRunner

my '82 rear has factory 4.37s


and the 86 IFS rear is a bit stronger, its 3" wider than the SA rear, and the tubes are larger, make sure you get the spring plates and u-bolts for the IFS rear, your 82's spring plates will not fit on the 86 rear

refried

I knew it was 4.30 something

CRONK4X

Thank You Everyone Helped Out A Lot

82yota

Not all 82s have 4.37. Mine has 4.10s. Check the gearing number on the firewall plate. It could have whatever they felt like putting in it. Toyota I think more or less picked and choosed what they wanted to put in each truck haha. We have many different ratios in our trucks here.

monstertruckman

i would check the ratio's first my 82 had 4.10 but now running 5.29 much better.when fitting my 5.29s in my original housing i found that the carrier was 1/4 out and would not fit so i replaced my axels with 86 ones. which my lockers and r&p dropped into.

mtm