Calling all fast 4runners
 

For those of you who are supercharged: do you have any track times or stories of races. Im interested to hear how much of a difference it makes. If you post please include the engine mods you have done if they arent in your sig.

Thanks!

I have a few, but here is my favorite.
I was on State Street in SLC, and there was a 1997ish Ford F350 with a powerstroke diesel and a 4 inch lift. He kept revving me while we were driving down the street. We finally hit a stop light. So I thought I would show him what my 4Runner could do. The light was still red and I started powerbraking my rig. The back tire starts spinning and a huge cloud of smoke comes from my tire. Then the light turned green and I let off the brake and left him in the dust. I slowed down to the speed limit (40mph) and he drove beside me and asked what I had in it. I told him "nothing all 4Runners are this fast":laugh:. His jaw dropped, and he drove away.

There are a few other stories with civics, focus',etc. But those weren't as funny!

My engine mods are:
Deckplate mod
Supercharger
Tranny cooler
Flowmaster 60 series muffler
NGK BCPR7ET plugs

My roommate says that the supercharger is VERY LOUD outside of the vehicle. I raced him one day and he said that you would have to be stupid to think that that sound was normal. (any racer should know its a s/c)

plus my boost gauge gives it away.


dan

Back in the day I had a 95 SI SOHC that ran a 15.4 at 90MPH on street tires with full interior. I remember being at a stop light one day with my friend in the car, and this guy in a maroon Tacoma Ex Cab started revving at me. I could hear the SC whine, so I really gave it a good launch. I kid you not, we were neck and neck all the way to 80. I was very impressed. But the guy was nuts, and he took off from the next light peeling out all the way through first gear, in front of a bunch of cops none the less!

It sure sounded cool.

Yeah as you know, the whine is loud inside, I can only imagine how loud it is outside. I doubt the kid knew what the sound was. Let alone hear the whine over his powerstroke.

WOW that's a pretty fast time in the Si. I had a 2000 Civic Si (DOHC Vtec) and it could only run low 16's (of course SLC is a lot higher in elevation than AZ). I miss the 8,000 redline and when the cams switch over and the car instantly gets really loud!
:drink:

I ran a 15.1 at 92.9 at SIR on drag radials.

I had a ton of mods, most notably the Gude Cam and ECU, I/H/E, Centerforce clutch, yada yada yada.

I really miss that VTEC switchover too. Oh wait, we have VTEC on our 94 Accord. I guess its just so fast I cant tell. :P

You are right about SLC. I raced 2 00 SI's in my 95 and beat them both times. But, they just had intake.

Ahh, the gold ole' days.

But the real question is:
Did you have a huge wing on it?
Did you have stickers?

Because you know that those add MAD-Horsepower-yo!! :p

LOL. You sound like that guy on Fast and Furious!

Actually, it was really clean, with stock rims. I will scan a pic and post it tomorrow. It wasnt ricey at all.

I did have my ricey moments:

Huge "TANABE" window banner
"Powered by Honda" shoulder belts
"SIR" sticker on the rear
"Powered by DC Sports" license plate bracket
Patio furniture material front grill, painted chrome
Etc...

Luckily, these were not all on at once, and I finally just took it down to the stock look, lowered of course.

I've raced and won against:
1996 Camaro (had aftermarket exhaust)
1999+ Civic Si
5.0L Mustang
Newer Mustang Cobra (with my mother in the passenger seat)

The Camaro was easy. He wasted time smoking his tires. The Civic was nose-to-nose until I hit 3rd. The 5.0L Mustang was priceless because he had a sticker on the back window of Calvin peeing on foreign. The Mustang Cobra was just awesome. The driver wasn't happy, though.

I raced and lost against:
1999 Acura Integra
Porsche 911 Turbo
Corvette C5

The Integra had a lot of money under the hood. The exterior was stock except for the rims. I beat him off the line and thought I had him until I hit 3rd. He breezed past me like I was standing still. I heard a turbo and a BOV when he let up off the throttles.
The Porsche...I just wanted to hear his engine. I puleed up next to him on my way home from work. It was getting dark. I revved my engine and he revved back. I thougt, "cool, I'll get to hear his engine as he hands my a$$ to me." The light turned green and I jam the throttle. He just sat at the light. I started swearing and wondering why he even had that car if he wasn't going to drive it. About that point, I see the pitch of the headlights change slightly. "Oh sh*!. Here it comes." He, too, passed me like I was standing still. I did get to hear his engine howl, though.
The Corvette...nothing spectacular. He handed my a$$ to me.

Here is a story for you...

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...&highlight=WRX

haha, sweet dude.
man i want a sc so bad now.

Tomus, Nice kill man. My friend has an 03 WRX and those things fly! I cant wait to get a supercharger now just so i can hang with him and piss him off.

HaveBlue, Im not doubting you but thinking that a 4runner can beat a car that runs a low 5 sec 0-60 time is pretty hard to believe unless he sat there and smoked the tires or sucked at shifting gears. But if you took him thats awesome!

Travis,

I knew you had a comedic streak in you. Priceless!

Bob

Hey ssbogger - I smoked a land rover freelander on foscoe hill heading up to banner elk. The rover was really on the gas and I just watched him fade into the distance.

I also wasted a Jeep rock crawler, but I could have done that on my mountain bike:)

You'll love the supercharger!

there was a link of the sound of the supercharger but it was dated for 11/02 and it wasn't active any more .. does anyone have an active sound clip?

does the supercharger have a blow off value sound? or does it just sound like a big v8? or does it sound like a sports car?

as you can tell i have no clue .. thanks for the responses.

Here it is with Konig's on it. Not too ricey...

http://pics.montypics.com/cdaviesaz/...2006_95_SI.jpg

I have that sound clip downloaded onto my hard drive. I can email it to you if you want. I believe it was from SLC Punk. Believe it or not, it was after reading that thread and listening to that clip of his S/C that made me order my supercharger. I have been happy ever since.

The supercharger won't have a blow-off valve sound because it doesn't have a blow off valve like a turbo does.

Superchargers have more of a whine sound to them. And no, they won't make it sound like you have a big V8 under the hood. They sound like, well....superchargers! :hillbill:

Now the blowoff-valve question makes me have a question: what do the superchargers do to relieve excess pressure that is built up when the throttle/butterfly valve is suddenly closed? You know, like how a turbo uses a blowoff-valve.

Thanks for helping the curious student who should be studying for finals right now!

Correct, and Turbochargers use compressed exhaust gasses to make boost, which is synonomous with turbo lag. A blow off valve releases excess pressure when you let off the gas after a boosted condition, and takes stress off the turbo, thus reducing lag when you get back on the throttle.

Superchargers use an anti-surge valve, or by-pass valve, or pressure release valve. (There are many different names)

My kills
 

I've raced and beat my uncle in both his cars:

2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee
2003 Lexus SC 430 (short race. I think he would have pulled me if it would have been longer)

Then there's always the misc. Honda's, other Toyota's

Mike

Hey 96:

We should race....see what the difference would be. You have a n/a Runner I believe??

I know mine would be quicker than it is if I didn't have the 285/75s but it's still pretty quick. I don't think my s/c has that loud of a whine. Maybe I'm just us to it but I don't really notice it.

Paul

I am N/A. That would be interesting to see. Obviously you would beat me, but I may be able to take you off the line with clutch-abusing launch. (You are an Auto right?)

Or, we could just go to my little testing road and run times from point A to point B.

It would be cool to see your truck regardless. PM me. This weekend may not be good though, I will be shoveling 15 tons of rock. :barf:

um... what does n/a mean ... like saying "you have a n/a runner..."

i thought it meant not available or not applicable...

:help:

Yes..I'm auto. Anytime is good for me. Your only a couple of miles away.

N/A is short for (on this forum) "normal aspiration" / stock air induction...in otherwords...without supercharger :)

thanks for the definition...


sportedition thanks for the clip

:bigok: <~ why is only 1 thumb moving? what is he doing?

Naturally asperated (no supercharger, or turbo)

F/I means forced induction

edit: oops someone already answered it.



The sound clip was from me. I don't have the sound clip on my work computer and my DSL is not hooked up in my new apartment.

There is no "blow off valve" sound with the supercharger. In fact there isn't a blow off sound in my turbo'ed celica. Since the excess air is re-routed to my intake, it doesn't make the "fast and furious" sound when I shift. I could get a blow off valve and have that sound, but it would actually make my car slower because the excess air would be going to atmosphere...

<96 Runner> that's a pretty nice Si, I will have to scan in a pic of my old one autocrossing!!

Bob: that was a once in a lifetime joke. I have never told a joke since!!
:P

SLC-

I wouldnt mind seeing a pic of your celica too. Those are pretty cool.

Yeah, that Fast and Furious sound that they audio-dubbed in from the Eclipse was a bit excessive. Seriously, the guy was idling and blipping the throttle and you could hear it. That's not a sign of high boost, its a sign of poor tuning. Not to mention the floorboard falling out while squeezing a 3 stage NOS system on a stand alone FMU. Good grief, I hope the sequel is better, but they rarely are. Enough venting.

Yeah I need to take some pics of my Celica soon. I am going to the Kentucky Derby tomorrow (my wife works for a company that does investments in these horses). But I will snap some pics when I get back next week.

Anyways, its totally believable that a floorboard can fall out when hitting the NAAAWWWSSS! Mine fell out when I when I put in the preimum blinker fluid!! :nerd:

Oh GAWD that was a funny drop!

I thought it was best when he was in that drag race and went through 8 or 9 gears!

I love these stories, keep 'em coming! :bounce:

In the movie those cars are supposed to be 12-10secs cars in the 1/4, too bad it took them 3-5mins :dunno:

In the street race (as stupid as it was for a LOT of reasons) they were going a bit farther than 1/4mile. Im thinking 4-5miles but then the gear shift dont quite match up to what they'd be in real life. All the gear shifting would be done in the first 7-8 seconds or so....

I also dont remember 8-9 shifts on the same car either. Time to go watch the DVD for the 1000th time....lol

The floorboard falling off IS a joke though - I laughed my ass off in the movie theater when that happened and when the fire came out of their exhuasts.... (which can be done with a little modding, but it's kinda stupid really unless you wanna burn someone's front bumper off when they are behind you...lol)

so anyone got some 1/4 times and 0 -60 times on some tacos and 4runners?

I know of one SC'ed 4runner that did a 15.9 with a lot of gear in the back.

steve

Things I thought were amusing, to say the least...

The two 55 gal. drums in the hatch...he had enough funny gas there to get everyone twisted...

The launch; Turbo, AWD, big sticky meats and he somehow bogs the launch and car is all over the road. How hard is it to rev to 5k, dump the clutch and hold the wheel straight?

The speedo holding steady at 140 then suddenly jumps to 160 in like 1/10 of a second.

My grandma in a Pinto could beat Paul Walker and his Eclipse if he drives like that in real life...

Haha, any of you who want to see what your S/C'ed trucks will do against a 4x4 5.9 let me know. Here are the stock stats for a 5.9 Limited:
1998 Jeep 5.9 Limited (Motor Trend Jan/98):
0-60 - 6.80 sec.
1/4 Mile - 15.20 sec.
For reference to two SUV's who thought they were hot ˟˟˟˟˟ and ended up bowing down to the J double E to the P.
2000 AMG ML55 5.5L (Car & Driver Dec/99):
0-60 - 6.80 sec.
1/4 Mile - 15.30 sec.
2000 BMW X5 4.4i (Motor Trend Jan/00):
0-60 - 7.50
1/4 Mile - 15.80

Last i heard motortrend's results tend to vary quite a lot from real life. Haven't seen any facts to that end either way.

And if you want to compare yota's vs heeps, at least compare apples to apples. The 4.7 v8 is what you'd compare to. And the 4.7L with a blower would eat that heep ALIVE...and last longer and get better milage and be more reliable and would still offroad just as well, if not better than that heep.

Im sure the heep is a great all around vehicle, but I'll be sticking to yodas. :D

Not flaming just posting an opinion. :)

Steve

I think it's worthwhile to point out that the launch is VERY important when comparing 1/4 mile ET's.

A perfect launch at a dragstrip using a tree is 4/10ths of a second. It's VERY easy to win a race in that first half-second against someone that would have beaten you clean if they were paying attention.

I know that a rodded out 4Runner can beat a number of things that no one would expect, but it's also important to keep the driving skills in mind. So, if folks are going to post their 1/4 ET's, then I think it's worthwhile to look at the R/T's as well.

I'm not discounting any folks' stories at all. I'm just pointing out that there's more to a drag race than horsepower. :)


Mark