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ej1bullet 11-22-2010 01:15 PM

my 302 5.0 swap / ?
 
hay whats up yotatech i own a 94 toyota 4 runner and puling the ugly 3vze and doping in a efi 5.0 !! i already got the motor and em planing to buy the nwor adapter and i was going to ask a ?? do i have to buy there cloche or can i buy a different one that will fit the 5.0

ej1bullet 11-23-2010 01:18 AM

bump
help any one ????

dirtydeeds 11-23-2010 08:11 PM

why not just use a tranny from the 5.0? cheaper to do and stronger?

ej1bullet 11-24-2010 02:11 AM


Originally Posted by dirtydeeds (Post 51601017)
why not just use a tranny from the 5.0? cheaper to do and stronger?

haw can i do that ?? but im working with what i got and i got a 5 speed 4x4 tranny plus i think it will be more work doing a cable conversion on my 4 runner because i got a hydro

dirtydeeds 11-24-2010 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by ej1bullet (Post 51601117)
haw can i do that ?? but im working with what i got and i got a 5 speed 4x4 tranny plus i think it will be more work doing a cable conversion on my 4 runner because i got a hydro

I've never worked with the 4X4 tranny so I might b talkin out my azz here but the 5.0 motor puts out 300lb tq, that's the only reason I'd b concerned. You would b able to retrofit the 5.0 pedal assembly pretty easily then run a 5.0 clutch cable retrofit to make it manually adjustable. The stock cable/pedal adjuster is junk.

I would think a used/rebuilt T5 is cheaper than a conversion adaptor?

ej1bullet 11-27-2010 01:55 AM


Originally Posted by dirtydeeds (Post 51601245)
I've never worked with the 4X4 tranny so I might b talkin out my azz here but the 5.0 motor puts out 300lb tq, that's the only reason I'd b concerned. You would b able to retrofit the 5.0 pedal assembly pretty easily then run a 5.0 clutch cable retrofit to make it manually adjustable. The stock cable/pedal adjuster is junk.

I would think a used/rebuilt T5 is cheaper than a conversion adaptor?

yha but its bin proven that is possible and proven that it handles the power but the harness to the truck is giving me a hard time dose any one know haw its dun or has links ??

5.0 Fordota 11-27-2010 05:27 AM

What is giving you a hard time? You have to treat the truck and motor as two seperate systems. The vehicle harness will run all the essentials for the vehicle ie lights and such. The engine harness is seperate all you have to do is wire up a few wires to power the engine computer and your fuel pump.You will need the entire engine harness along with the power distribution box for the motor. Or at least thats how I did it. You need to have a complete wiring schematic for your motor. As for clutch options you have to use a pressure plate for the motor you are using. The clutch disk is a different story. I did find out that a disk from a 2005 Tacoma with a V6 is the right spline count and is 10 7/8 in diameter. Havent been able to find out if you can buy one seperate though. Otherwise you have to use the NWOR disk or the one from AA.

ej1bullet 11-27-2010 01:10 PM

[quote=5.0 Fordota;51602909]What is giving you a hard time? You have to treat the truck and motor as two seperate systems. The vehicle harness will run all the essentials for the vehicle ie lights and such. The engine harness is seperate all you have to do is wire up a few wires to power the engine computer and your fuel pump.You will need the entire engine harness along with the power distribution box for the motor. Or at least thats how I did it. You need to have a complete wiring schematic for your motor. As for clutch options you have to use a pressure plate for the motor you are using. The clutch disk is a different story. I did find out that a disk from a 2005 Tacoma with a V6 is the right spline count and is 10 7/8 in diameter. Havent been able to find out if you can buy one seperate though. Otherwise you have to use the NWOR disk or the one from AA.[/quote




which exact wires do i need??

ej1bullet 11-27-2010 07:44 PM

[quote=ej1bullet;51603140]

Originally Posted by 5.0 Fordota (Post 51602909)
What is giving you a hard time? You have to treat the truck and motor as two seperate systems. The vehicle harness will run all the essentials for the vehicle ie lights and such. The engine harness is seperate all you have to do is wire up a few wires to power the engine computer and your fuel pump.You will need the entire engine harness along with the power distribution box for the motor. Or at least thats how I did it. You need to have a complete wiring schematic for your motor. As for clutch options you have to use a pressure plate for the motor you are using. The clutch disk is a different story. I did find out that a disk from a 2005 Tacoma with a V6 is the right spline count and is 10 7/8 in diameter. Havent been able to find out if you can buy one seperate though. Otherwise you have to use the NWOR disk or the one from AA.[/quote




which exact wires do i need??













thanks man for your help ! :king:

ej1bullet 11-28-2010 12:42 AM

can any one tell me the name of these 2 plugs they are next to the ecu on the right side they connect to the engine harness





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yotaman107 12-02-2010 10:46 PM

If I remeber correctly you will find some of your guage wires in thoes connectors, I was able to install a 4 runner guage cluster in my 89 pickup and a 91 5.0HO with the bellhousing just as you are and I believe your 4x light, your reverse lights, battery light, and other idiot lights are there...

ej1bullet 12-04-2010 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by yotaman107 (Post 51607153)
If I remeber correctly you will find some of your guage wires in thoes connectors, I was able to install a 4 runner guage cluster in my 89 pickup and a 91 5.0HO with the bellhousing just as you are and I believe your 4x light, your reverse lights, battery light, and other idiot lights are there...

oh mad that is exactly what i em doing you think you can give me more info ??? em i going to have to get a 5.0- fuse box?? thanks man oce again

ej1bullet 12-04-2010 09:01 PM

can any one give me clues on haw to do the 5.0 efi harness??

ej1bullet 12-04-2010 09:02 PM

help on a 5.0 swap
 
can any one give me clues on haw to do the 5.0 efi harness??

ej1bullet 12-05-2010 06:13 PM

bump!

yotaman107 12-06-2010 05:14 PM

You wont need the 5.0 fuse box you just need 4 relays and an aftermarket fuse block, look here... http://www.liquidmatrics.com/cpg1418...0001/alifi.pdf
also fordfuelinjection.com should have the rest of the info you need to get your harness powered up... Let me know if you have any other ?'s glad to help

ej1bullet 12-06-2010 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by yotaman107 (Post 51609368)
You wont need the 5.0 fuse box you just need 4 relays and an aftermarket fuse block, look here... http://www.liquidmatrics.com/cpg1418...0001/alifi.pdf
also fordfuelinjection.com should have the rest of the info you need to get your harness powered up... Let me know if you have any other ?'s glad to help


oh thanks man !! yha i know about the relays one is fuel pump and the other is ignition ect !!

ej1bullet 12-06-2010 07:03 PM

hay yota man do you have a 5.0 swap also???:smokin:

yotaman107 12-10-2010 08:55 AM

Yeah, It's a 91 5.0HO from a T Bird with an A9L ECU Theres a bunch of pictures in my gallery

ej1bullet 12-10-2010 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by yotaman107 (Post 51612031)
Yeah, It's a 91 5.0HO from a T Bird with an A9L ECU Theres a bunch of pictures in my gallery


nice man!! hay what radiator do i use??

ej1bullet 12-10-2010 10:47 PM

hear is my truck i know its a p.o.s!! but i got it for 500 running !!
just like dad says you cant beat a sale sun lol ..


the first time i got my rig !!
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i put sum 35 i had from a blazer
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yotaman107 12-11-2010 08:24 AM

Double check the measurements between your radiator supports to be safe but I'm almost positive it was this exact radiator for a 67 mustang, the inlet and outlet were perfect at their locations; upper on the passenger side and lower on drivers...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-...Q5fAccessories

yotaman107 12-11-2010 08:49 AM

I used aftermarket gauges for the oil pressure and coolant temperature, so I ran the wires directly from the aftermarket sensors to the gauges... If you want to keep the key starting the engine you will have to run the old starter wire at the ignition cylinder to the starter solenoid under the hood.. Or get the 12v crank signal from the fuse block under the hood...

ej1bullet 12-19-2010 10:17 PM

hear is a pick of the progress of my 5.0 swap hear are the relay also the fuse box
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h8...a/DSC_0457.jpg

dirtydeeds 12-19-2010 10:32 PM

that is by no means a POS! Once you get the 5.0 in there the best description is badazz!

ej1bullet 12-19-2010 10:43 PM

you can get the fuse box for about 10 bucks at auto zone but i got mine from advance auto.com for about the same price + $10 shipping lol i dint know that that is y when i seen them i wanted to cry lol fot the $ 20 that i spend plus the 2 weeks waiting for it lol but i got the relays from radio shack
for about $8 each

ej1bullet 12-19-2010 10:49 PM

yha i know it was a pos but 500 buks sr5 4runner 5 speed running with a v6 not a bad idea !! lol my plans are 5.0 flat black and Yakima racks and a lil more lift to it !!

ej1bullet 12-20-2010 06:28 AM

whats up guys i have a couple of picks from my progress on my 5.0 swap hear are sum picks of my 5.0 motor and also my relay set up and fuse box :prop:
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ej1bullet 12-20-2010 06:38 AM

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ej1bullet 12-20-2010 06:40 AM

do you guy think i shold use the fuel pump wire from the cricit opening relay or fro sum ware else ??

ej1bullet 12-20-2010 06:51 AM

hear is what i use a tester to pas current so i can i identify the wire im working with also a digital label maker that i picket up from target for about 20 bucks !!and sum shrink tubing

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yotaman107 12-22-2010 09:19 AM

Relay bank looks good man... Where do you plan on mounting it?? I used the fuel pump wire in the kick, cut n splice to the relay.. works fine.

ej1bullet 12-22-2010 09:32 AM

thanks man i em mouting it in the engine bay are you talking about the one that gose to the cercit opening relay?? of the one that gose to the hi1- hi2 conectors??

JamesD 12-22-2010 11:29 AM

What is that 302 out of?

ej1bullet 12-22-2010 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by JamesD (Post 51620304)
What is that 302 out of?



sn95 witch is a 95 mustang the last year that the 5.0 efi was produce but ill be using a 93 5.0 efi harness for the simplicity and also a external tfi module
i em also using a aftermarket parts performances upper and lower manifold that i ported .:wrench:

ej1bullet 12-22-2010 03:46 PM

do you guy think i shold use the fuel pump wire from the cricit opening relay or from:wrench: sum ware else ??????:wrench:
help help help help help

ej1bullet 12-22-2010 04:59 PM

this is where i em going to mount it at !

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ej1bullet 12-22-2010 05:36 PM

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JamesD 12-23-2010 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by ej1bullet (Post 51620373)
sn95 witch is a 95 mustang the last year that the 5.0 efi was produce but ill be using a 93 5.0 efi harness for the simplicity and also a external tfi module
i em also using a aftermarket parts performances upper and lower manifold that i ported .:wrench:

I know all about them. I own a 90 LX. Smart move on using the SN95 engine since all the accessory brackets do not stick out as far as the fox body cars. Are you going to run the stock cam? Will the Edelbrock intake fit under the hood?

James

ej1bullet 12-23-2010 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by JamesD (Post 51620951)
I know all about them. I own a 90 LX. Smart move on using the SN95 engine since all the accessory brackets do not stick out as far as the fox body cars. Are you going to run the stock cam? Will the Edelbrock intake fit under the hood?

James


thanks man. nice i love the 5.0 i had a couple of them grate cars .
yha ill be running a e303 ford racing with a 70mill trotal body and sum injectors thats it performances wise . oh its basically a beter replica of the edilbrock but the brand is http://www.professional-products.com/ its the same but its a lot more cheaper !! lol


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