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Ricu_air Jun 3, 2014 11:16 AM

starting problem
 
My truck (3VZE engine, auto trans) won t start. I changed the strater contacts last night, charged the battery overnight but nothing happens.
When i put the key on i can hear the "click" coming from the starter but the engine is not starting at all.
Do i have to change the starter?

Terrys87 Jun 3, 2014 12:04 PM

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Here is how I clean my Starter Relay contacts. That helps.

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Cleaning the Starter Relay.
I followed RAD4Runners write up on the starter relay as I have had it to not hit on a first turn of the ignition. I cleaned the contacts like he said, only I used 600 grit sandpaper. It does hit the on the first try and is a more solid, quicker response. Thanks RAD4Runner.

Getting cover off, I used wire cutters to bend the tabs up on the cover. The rubber seal really makes it tough to get off. Luckily the wires are soldered on real well, I used a screw driver to work around the edges of the seal to help free the cover.
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We got rain and I had this spare. Thought while I was at it I would clean it. It had rust in it. It cleaned up well and still works. I will take some electric contact cleaner to it and keep it as a spare.
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RAD4Runner Jun 3, 2014 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Ricu_air (Post 52200689)
When i put the key on i can hear the "click" coming from the starter but the engine is not starting at all. Do i have to change the starter?

By Starter contact, you mean the ones inside the starter solenoid, correct? If so, possible that
Your solenoid is binding such that altho it actuates it does not travel far enough to completely close the contact, or
Like the 22Re starting circuit there is too much resistance that you lose power going to the solenoid, so there is not enough power to fully actuate the solenoid and make good contact.

To validate above, try this Special Service Tool :). Does it consistently start?

Mind posting schematic of your cranking circuit so we can check?

wyoming9 Jun 3, 2014 02:38 PM

:coffee: You must have really long arms.

The only way I could come close to reaching the starter from the top would be to crawl head first into the right side of the engine compartment.

Plussitive I like that I can see the looks on customers faces now :wrench:

RAD4Runner Jun 3, 2014 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by wyoming9 (Post 52200746)
:coffee: You must have really long arms.
The only way I could come close to reaching the starter from the top would be to crawl head first into the right side of the engine compartment.
Plussitive I like that I can see the looks on customers faces now :wrench:

LOL! And you still haven't seen my SST for starting a 22RE while feeling/listening to the starter relay and solenoid - LOL!

Ricu_air Jun 3, 2014 07:11 PM

i connected the starter to the battery and it doesn t spin, the gear comes out but nothing more. thanks for your help guys, i ll probably buy a new one tomorrow

RAD4Runner Jun 4, 2014 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Ricu_air (Post 52200810)
i connected the starter to the battery and it doesn t spin, the gear comes out but nothing more. thanks for your help guys, i ll probably buy a new one tomorrow

I see. Gear coming out means starter solenoid is actuating. If not spinning, andyou know you have good contacts in the solenoid, then, yes most likely bad starter winding or brushes.


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