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doink 08-01-2003 07:23 AM

lock right lockers?
 
what are your feelings on these? im thinking about getting one, but not sure if its worth it. its either this, or saving up the cash for arb air locker and compressor. any help would be grand

seafarinman 08-01-2003 07:32 AM

I got one. $217.00 out the door. It was too easy to install. The best low budget mod I have ever done. Quirks are easy to deal with, and it always works whether I need it to or not. What more can you ask for? Seriously, if you are going to regear, then get a Detroit. If not, then a Lock-Right. I don't know about use up front as I only have one in the rear.

doink 08-01-2003 07:39 AM

yeah, thanks. i wasj ust wondering about putting one in the rear. also, whats the difference btwn this unit and the no slip traction system offered by powertrax as well?

HBoss 08-01-2003 07:44 AM

What exactly is the lock-right? LSD? Selectable locker? Permanent locker? other?

shazaam 08-01-2003 07:48 AM

You might want to hold up .. I'm trying to work out a group buy on a detroit locker .. it might be a little more then the lock right .. but from I've read the detroit locker is quality, and has very little problems.

NCSU-4runner 08-01-2003 01:09 PM

ive been thinking of getting the lock-rite. i think i found it for like 180 somethin plus shippin on the internet.

statelax3 08-01-2003 01:26 PM

i am running a lockrite in the rear of mine, worth the money, very cheap, mines seems to be very quiet, no loud poping as i had expected, just tire chirp around corners but hell you gte used to it after a while. ohh and ths install is so easy a monkey did mine

denver4x4 08-01-2003 01:35 PM

I just Installed a Lock-Right a few weeks ago and here are some observations that I have.

INSTALL . EASY to install. nothing to it:bounce:


Operation. It is a full time locker. It disengages when you turn by allowing 1 wheel to spin FASTER then the other, meaning the slow wheel get the engine power. This is kinda neat it sounds like a big craftsman wrench because that is how it works. when 1 tire needs to go faster during a turn it applies pressure to the assembly and it disengages and ratchets on the axle. However this dosent always work so nicely and it can get kinda jerky and jumpy. Especially when you make hard u-turns while applying power. I just use the clutch and glide through the tight turns now. Also beause it does this it will chew up your rear tires more then normal.

OFF road. WOW it makes it so much easier. I don't worry about my tires hanging off a rock or in a trech anymore. It is just great.

And for $200 it is the best off road upgrade that I bought. and chap too :)

flecker 08-01-2003 03:41 PM

I like mine !
 
It's a quick install for the do it yourselfer, Albeit crucial to get the backlash right(a dial gauge helps here).:nerd: One thing to consider would be that it uses the "stock" carrier. This weakens the setup a bit, if you intend on doing hard-core crawling a solid Detroit might suit your needs better. Don't get me wrong... I trust mine to get me out of a hard spot (or into one) and keep on groovin' and the added traction is waaaaaay better! If you live near snow country you'll have to learn to "drive again" with it! Just my .02 cents:hillbill:

outdoorfever 08-24-2004 02:31 PM

What tools are needed for install guys?

SWORDFISH92 08-24-2004 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by outdoorfever
What tools are needed for install guys?

I just put mine in today in the parking lot of my buddy's apartment complex. Mines an automatic and I can hardly notice it, no joke. I bought mine used from a guy on 4x4wire for $100 shipped. Best money i've spent. I have seen some online for $189 for a v6 new.

We used basic handtools, 2 2x4's. Floor jack, jackstands, set of open end wrenches, set of sockets up to 24mm. Hammer, punch, rubber mallet. whiteout to mark things inside the 3rd. and about 2.5 quarts of fluid if its a v6. I'm sure i forgot a few things.

at least in my experience, if youve never torn apart a third before have someone there who has! :rockin:

Scary Mc 08-25-2004 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by flecker
If you live near snow country you'll have to learn to "drive again" with it! Just my .02 cents:hillbill:

What do you mean?

Buki 08-25-2004 12:30 PM

Has anybody checked these out? Cost, application.....
http://www.tractech.com/Products.htm
Detroit Electrac.
Seems like the best of both worlds posi all the time 100% lockup with a push of the button.

Mad Chemist 08-25-2004 01:41 PM

I don't think they make one for Toys yet, could be wrong though.

I think MNBOY has detroits or lockrites in both the front and rear, has a hell of a time steering with the front locked...

4x4Lamm 08-25-2004 02:06 PM

Go for it, at least out back.

The pros outweigh the cons.

Lamm

EWAYota 08-25-2004 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by sdastg1
You might want to hold up .. I'm trying to work out a group buy on a detroit locker .. it might be a little more then the lock right .. but from I've read the detroit locker is quality, and has very little problems.

how close are you to getting that done?

outdoorfever 08-25-2004 02:43 PM

Sweet! I just recieved mine today...a few guys from the site are gonna help me. looking forward to it.

SolidDigital 08-25-2004 03:21 PM

sounds like something I'ma have to do :D if you guys find any links to good deals online, it'd be great if you could post em. I have 4.10 gears and a leaky rear differential so it's the perfect time to take it apart, pop a lockright in and replace the seal

seaflea 08-25-2004 03:39 PM

I've had a lock right in the front of mine for 10 years. Granted I do not go off road every weekend, more like once a month or so,But it has done agreat job. and is very noticeable when in 4wd but it is not hard to turn the wheel unless on a rock or hard packed road. I have heard horror stories of these blowing up in the front diff. but have not had it happen. :ignore: Yet. I just hope it doesnt.

deathrunner 08-25-2004 09:37 PM

Check out aussie lockers.

www.offroadlockers.com

Supposed to be smoother than the lock rite, or any other automatic locker.

SolidDigital 08-25-2004 10:07 PM

1969-1995
All 4WD, 4 Cyl Rear TOYOTA 8" rg 30spline 0 XD-20830 $239.99

that's the closest thing I could find for my truck on that aussie locker site, would that work with my 4.10 V6 rear?

MODZILLA 08-25-2004 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by SolidDigital
sounds like something I'ma have to do :D if you guys find any links to good deals online, it'd be great if you could post em. I have 4.10 gears and a leaky rear differential so it's the perfect time to take it apart, pop a lockright in and replace the seal

might I also recommend that you consider re-gear at the same time. that way you can bump up in tire size and gain ground clearance. 4:88's and 33's to do some wheelin with that locker. :nerd:

SolidDigital 08-26-2004 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by MODZILLA
might I also recommend that you consider re-gear at the same time. that way you can bump up in tire size and gain ground clearance. 4:88's and 33's to do some wheelin with that locker. :nerd:

man I wanna do that so bad, but it's just not in my $$$ range right now :(

I know nothing about gearing and lockers.. say if you get a locker and install it with 4.10's, then bump up to 4.88's a couple years later can you use the same 30 spline locker with that gearing?

deathrunner 08-26-2004 02:58 PM

I believe the 8" for the regular 4 bangers is different from the 8" for the 4cyl turbo or v6. I would ask Aussie. They emailed me back very quickly and answered every and I mean every question that I had. They'd gladly help you.

SolidDigital 08-26-2004 06:29 PM

man I'm tempted to buy this one

Jeffires 08-26-2004 06:48 PM

Lockright
 
After I got my Lockright and installed it, all my buddies I go off roading with wanted one. It helps in the mud but it is awesome for climbing and hard angles. I swear I've gone up several places in 2wd that I couldn't in 4wd.

As far as installing it, if you just mark everything and put it back exactly the same and on the same side, it will be fine. the directions call for all kinds of tools and dial calipers, but it isnt necessary. I've put in mine and several others in Toyotas and one GM and they work fine. Here are a few pics:

Chunk removed
http://img65.exs.cx/img65/9098/Locker01.jpg

Disassembled...
http://img45.exs.cx/img45/2742/Locker02.jpg

Mark those bearings below and put them back exactly the same...
http://img45.exs.cx/img45/9274/Locker03.jpg

delboy 08-27-2004 12:25 AM

will it fit?
 
I just bought a Lock right second hand, for the front of my 90. The guy wasnt sure if it would fit with the ADD as it has a different cage. The code is 1611. Can anyone tell me if this is correct for a 1990 IFS with ADD. Sorry Doink, for slightly hijacking.
Cheers
Derek

SolidDigital 08-27-2004 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by delboy
I just bought a Lock right second hand, for the front of my 90. The guy wasnt sure if it would fit with the ADD as it has a different cage. The code is 1611. Can anyone tell me if this is correct for a 1990 IFS with ADD. Sorry Doink, for slightly hijacking.
Cheers
Derek

1611 doesn't say anything about the hilux, but if yours has 7.5" front diff, looks like it'll work

SolidDigital 08-27-2004 10:41 AM

I searched all the posts I could find on yotatech last night about lockers, and it looks for the most part that this is a pretty good locker for the money.

Even though the install doesn't look too bad, I'd really rather have a mechanic do it because I've never torn apart a 3rd.
How much do you guys think someone would charge to install one of these?

my wallet hates you, yotatech lol but I say :yotarock: :D

leebee 08-29-2004 06:07 PM

rear only?
 

Originally Posted by SolidDigital
man I'm tempted to buy this one

hey solid!

i read through the info regarding this locker, i am presuming it is for the rear only as i didnt see any indication of it being suitable for the front. correct me if i missed that part! i would like to get lockers for my rig but right now, i cant justify spending large $$$ on the arb setup. the aussie and lock rite look pretty good to me, pricing is decent also. i just need to find someone in canada (ontario) that sells them.

thanks,

lee

SolidDigital 08-29-2004 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by leebee
hey solid!

i read through the info regarding this locker, i am presuming it is for the rear only as i didnt see any indication of it being suitable for the front. correct me if i missed that part! i would like to get lockers for my rig but right now, i cant justify spending large $$$ on the arb setup. the aussie and lock rite look pretty good to me, pricing is decent also. i just need to find someone in canada (ontario) that sells them.

thanks,

lee

yeah that one is just for the rear, the 1611 I linked a few posts up will work for the front depending on what year you have... I wouldn't wanna put one up front in my truck cause of the extra stress it'd put on the cv axle's.

SolidDigital 08-29-2004 07:38 PM

I went to the mechanic down the street and he didn't want to install it, told me to go to somebody an hour away and didn't know the name of the place.. so I'ma have some trouble finding someone to install it..

anybody have any idea generally what it'd run to have this locker put in?

outdoorfever 08-29-2004 07:41 PM

dude, seriously, please listen to me. Coming from a guy that didnt even know what a punch was, it was so easy. Granted I had guys helping me out the entire time, I did it again lol the second time all by myself. It was easy but I think the charge is about 100 dollars.

SolidDigital 08-29-2004 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by outdoorfever
dude, seriously, please listen to me. Coming from a guy that didnt even know what a punch was, it was so easy. Granted I had guys helping me out the entire time, I did it again lol the second time all by myself. It was easy but I think the charge is about 100 dollars.

welp, I'm tempted to do it myself.. just don't know anyone that could help me if I ran across a problem. I thought it was pretty simple but when I read this write-up , it got me a bit confused lol... mainly because I don't know what everything's called in the differential and when they say the name of it I dunno what the heck they're talking about haha And I don't have anything to set the backlash with /end rant

Doink, are you still thinking of getting one of these? sorry for hijacking a bit, just got really excited finally realizing it might actually be in my $ range to be able to get locked! :bounce2:

amorphous 08-29-2004 08:28 PM

Question...judging by everyones sigs...these are NOT available/applicable for my 3rd gen 4runner....correct?

What are my choices for aftermark locker?
thanks,
Åaron

outdoorfever 08-29-2004 09:33 PM

btw another jack...jeffires, that is a dirty 3rd. man you cant see any metal color in there! other than the gears.

yea solid its hard to say, think it through. what else can you do mechanically? if you can do the basics, you can do this.

amorphous, i have no answer for you, sorry

delboy 08-30-2004 07:44 AM

Well, the 1611 does fit the front with ADD. Cause i put it in yesterday and everything fit perfectly. Havnt put the diff back on the rig yet cause of rain. Not a complicated job, just need to be methodical with the diff components and clean everything very well before reassembling everything.
:D

SolidDigital 08-30-2004 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by outdoorfever
btw another jack...jeffires, that is a dirty 3rd. man you cant see any metal color in there! other than the gears.

yea solid its hard to say, think it through. what else can you do mechanically? if you can do the basics, you can do this.

amorphous, i have no answer for you, sorry


well the most I've done is on my truck, which is change the fuel filter, oil and the oil in the transmission, transfer case and front and back diff.. dist. cap and rotor, new wires and TPS. and rotate tires lol, that's about it.. never worked on gears or anything like that.
How are you liking your locker so far? does it make any clunks or anything if you start out at a light or shift giving it a lot of gas?

amorphous, they list lockright's for tacomas... so I'm guessing the tacoma differentials are the same as 4 runners?

outdoorfever 08-30-2004 01:05 PM

all the answers to your question solid is NO. no no no no. its fun to peel around corners now, nothing is different at least for me tho. i never drove like a nut so i am not having to change my style.

SolidDigital 08-30-2004 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by outdoorfever
all the answers to your question solid is NO. no no no no. its fun to peel around corners now, nothing is different at least for me tho. i never drove like a nut so i am not having to change my style.

shweet, can't wait to get one in my truck!


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