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midiwall 01-26-2006 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by <96 Runner>
Not to mention the PM's I am getting! :) You getting them too Mark?

Nah... I'm just sending all those folks to you!

(actually, I get a lot of email...)



(No big deal, it's just that the information exists; unfortunately it's spread out all over the place now)
Yeup... "someday" there will be a S/C FAQ.

:)

HOJU 01-26-2006 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by JHupp
I know it is kind of off topic, but I was wondering how much it would be if I needed to purchase gaskets and all of the hardware that came with a supercharger. The only thing I would have is the supercharger itself, no belts or bolts. Any estimate would be very helpful, I may be able to score one cheap without the hardware and such. Thanks,
Jason


If all you have is the blower itself, and nothing else? The TRD kit is $400 and it comes with everything you need, belts, bolts, tensioner, everything but the blower. I'd definetly call Evan at northridge and he'd be able to help and prob. hook you up too!

unless they've changed it this is the part number for the 2nd gen S/C- #00602-17620-210

paddlenbike 01-26-2006 07:23 AM

I am excited to see the prospects of a bolt-on turbo kit for the 3.4 (node, URD, and others). Having driven several supercharged 3.4s and after owning and modding toyota turbocharged cars I feel the turbo would better complement the 3.4's powerband and offer more tuning potential and possibly even a lower cost. I feel the 3.4 makes plenty of low end torque, it's the midrange and topend highway power that is lacking. I would need a fuel pump, larger injectors and possibly something like an MAFT-pro to handle the fuel, the manifold adapter, the Supra CT26 turbo I have sitting in my garage, stainless steel braided oil supply and return lines, a compact MKIII supra intercooler ($30), and some time with my friend's tubing bender and welder for the intake plumbing. Silicone couplers, t-bolt clamps and a few other odds and ends...

I made 354 hp and 418 ft lbs of torque on a stock CT26 turbo and intercooler on my 3 liter supra motor, I figure I should be able to get close to that with the 3.4 without pushing the limits of 91 octane fuel. Then there's always methanol injection. :great:

Weasy2k 01-26-2006 07:41 AM

Yea turbo kits are the next big thing...im still talking to node about his manifolds and ho0pfully something can be tested later this year.

Paddlenbike, the supra ct26 is pritty small and chokes the engine pritty early so while it would be a great little turbo to start with, i doubt it will be worth it. Node has tried this and has mentioned how it wont make full psi at 4500+rpm
I think he is going with 60-2 turbos now that have been installed int he ct26 housing :) That shuold give it bit more guts.

Me....im going Twin Turbo for my 5vz MR2....my truck will see something a bit different when my car is on the road during the summer (so i can take apart the truck)

paddlenbike 01-26-2006 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Weasy2k
Paddlenbike, the supra ct26 is pritty small and chokes the engine pritty early so while it would be a great little turbo to start with, i doubt it will be worth it. Node has tried this and has mentioned how it wont make full psi at 4500+rpm

Mine used to bleed off boost until I discovered the 18-year old wastegate spring was the culprit. I shimmed it with two washers per side and now that problem is gone. I also had my CT26 upgraded to a 60-trim and the boost fall-off is about the same as with the stock 46-trim impeller. Personally, if I were to use his turbo kit, I would send my spare 180,000 mile CT26 to Performance Techniques (PT) and have it rebuilt and upgraded to a 54-trim. Bigger than stock, smaller than what's on my Supra...should be perfect for a 3.4. CT26 cores run $80-120, a rebuild at PT is $250 or rebuild + impeller upgrade runs $450.

You can see the difference in impeller size in this pic. Left is stock 46-trim, right has a Garrett T04E 60-trim wheel.

A turbo 3.4 is where it's at.

tour4fun 01-26-2006 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by MTL_4runner
Thanks for clearing that up Dave!
The more I see of turbo setups for the 3.4L, the more I am thinking that is how I will go on mine.
They aren't quite as "bolt on" as a S/C but the tuning capability is just amazing.

In my experience, these aren't even close to "bolt on"!

My advise is to plan the turbo very carefully and be prepared for a lot of work required to put it in AND also to maintain it afterwards. This is not a S/C that you install, tune and then forget about it. It requires upkeep and lots of TLC.

paddlenbike 01-26-2006 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by tour4fun
In my experience, these aren't even close to "bolt on"!

My advise is to plan the turbo very carefully and be prepared for a lot of work required to put it in AND also to maintain it afterwards. This is not a S/C that you install, tune and then forget about it. It requires upkeep and lots of TLC.

^^^
And sick-o's like me enjoy this stuff. https://home.off-road.com/~kemanuel/...ns/offwall.gif

Still waiting for pics of your setup. :)

Weasy2k 01-26-2006 10:01 AM

I had a 57 trim on my MR2 and it was awsome :)

I believe node had 57trim upgrades in his too and it still choked out.

The 60-2 upgrade is looking to be awsome! Esspecialy since his goal is 7000rpm with the help of my cams and upcoming valve springs :)


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