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Mckinney711 12-21-2017 05:16 PM

97 sas swap
 
I know this has prob been talked about already but I’m having trouble finding a waggy 44 for my swap and I found a yota axle but won’t work due to being a passenger side drop also my 97 is and auto I have a 5 speed trans is like to swap into it but I was reading that some 2.7s weren’t drill to except a poilet bearing and info on both ideas?

wyoming9 12-22-2017 02:42 AM

Where in Pa??

So your thinking instead of making one crank shaft for the 2.7 Toyota would make two

Meaning two different 2.7 engine lines to build engines

No they are all the same.

We do have the whole SAS section

Have you looked into a After Market Front axle??

muddpigg 12-22-2017 04:27 AM

Trailgear, Diamond, and ruffstuff akk make housing. I'd stay with yota axles. Or I'd go Dana 60.
Reasons: 1 strength a built yota axle is every bit as strong as a stock dana 60. I don't know of a way to build a D44 to stiffen differential to prevent ring deflection.
2 If you go only dana in front your limited to 4.88 as lowest gear ratio. Though I've read of ppl running 5.38 front and 5.29 rear but was on trail only rigs and still sounds bad to me.

If I were you I'd not convert the 4wd. I would do a 2wd taco. This will offset price of buying axles and will give better up travel of front axle. Down side 2wd taco has 2rz motor unless you get a pre-runner but that steps up the price tag.

Mckinney711 12-22-2017 06:07 AM

Huntingdon and I have a little bit the prices are pretty high and don’t have that much to spend on an axle. Also I go wheeling a good bit but it get drove to where me and my buddies wheel so a full length 60 is out of the question the lesson I want a waggy 44 is cause of the length right? Also hearing I only want 4:10s

wyoming9 12-23-2017 02:23 AM

If your planning to run 4.10 gears that means your staying with stock size tires ?

How far from home have you searched for the axle you want ??

muddpigg 12-23-2017 04:32 AM

I've noticed around here price of axles are stupid high. Yota front $1000, wagoneer front $550-600. Might wanna figure out a less popular axle. Or look at buying a whole truck just for axles.

Mckinney711 12-23-2017 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by wyoming9 (Post 52385569)
If your planning to run 4.10 gears that means your staying with stock size tires ?

How far from home have you searched for the axle you want ??

prob gonna Run 33s or 35s nothing to extreme I don’t want to go to low and not be able to hit the high way

Mckinney711 12-23-2017 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by muddpigg (Post 52385575)
I've noticed around here price of axles are stupid high. Yota front $1000, wagoneer front $550-600. Might wanna figure out a less popular axle. Or look at buying a whole truck just for axles.

guy I work with has a yota axle but being a newer year I’d have to Change transfercase cause there pass side drop and my buddy has a 6 lug waggy 44 I’ve been bugging him to sell hopefully he give in sometime soon lol

muddpigg 12-23-2017 05:02 AM

Some are flipping land cruiser axles.

I'm just not a fan of D44. Either yota or tons.

Why do you want to SAS? Would it be better to stay IFS and put money in other places on your rig? If you SAS there is a possibility that front driveline angle will be too steep thus dual cases will be need to relax angle. Then look for a front axle. SAS is a labor and money intensive mod so take your time and do your research. Would suck to do swap only to find out you can use 4wd only under 5mph.

Mckinney711 12-23-2017 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by muddpigg (Post 52385580)
Some are flipping land cruiser axles.

I'm just not a fan of D44. Either yota or tons.

Why do you want to SAS? Would it be better to stay IFS and put money in other places on your rig? If you SAS there is a possibility that front driveline angle will be too steep thus dual cases will be need to relax angle. Then look for a front axle. SAS is a labor and money intensive mod so take your time and do your research. Would suck to do swap only to find out you can use 4wd only under 5mph.

Ifs isn’t bad for mud but hill climbing and flex isn’t great just always want a solid axle yota to show all my jeep buddies up and yeah I should just keep it and lock it or just sell it lol idk I’ll figure something out

muddpigg 12-23-2017 05:38 AM

I get it. I'm an SAS guy. I hated the IFS teeter totter; Man did I use to have to pull seat cushion out of my crack. Believe me you can build an IFS that will stun jeepers. Theres things you can do with IFS to maximize its capabilities: locker, low profile bumpstops, dual cases, swaybar (remove/quick disconnect). For a front locker you'll need to research selectable or auto locker with locking hubs.

This will buy you time to plan and collect parts to do SAS and build it strong. Then you can sell the IFS parts to help offset the cost of SAS. This will help you learn and increase skilz both of wrenching and wheeling.

Besides SASing you taco will potentially hurt resale ability. I've had my rig 12 years and have no intent of selling it. This is especially true if potential buyers know what they are looking at in an SAS'd rig.

Mckinney711 12-23-2017 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by muddpigg (Post 52385584)
I get it. I'm an SAS guy. I hated the IFS teeter totter; Man did I use to have to pull seat cushion out of my crack. Believe me you can build an IFS that will stun jeepers. Theres things you can do with IFS to maximize its capabilities: locker, low profile bumpstops, dual cases, swaybar (remove/quick disconnect). For a front locker you'll need to research selectable or auto locker with locking hubs.

This will buy you time to plan and collect parts to do SAS and build it strong. Then you can sell the IFS parts to help offset the cost of SAS. This will help you learn and increase skilz both of wrenching and wheeling.

Besides SASing you taco will potentially hurt resale ability. I've had my rig 12 years and have no intent of selling it. This is especially true if potential buyers know what they are looking at in an SAS'd rig.

. Lol I had a 96 I used to wheel all the time had icon adjustable coils and a few other goodies but yeah you are right I’ll prob just go that rout I main goal right now is to jam that 5 speed I have in it then I’ll start worrying bout sas

muddpigg 12-23-2017 06:10 AM

Sounds like the best option.

dropzone 12-23-2017 01:01 PM

You might find a unicorn early T100 with a passenger side drop transfer case and be able to use a toy axle


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