run your e lock and 33's and save the bracket lift money for a solid front end/gas/things your break just wheeling period

tpaine has the right idea.

Bracket lifts gain absolutely nothing other than 4" lift. Nothing. Absolutely no gain in travel when done properly. ie bump stop extensions. IMO not worth the money. For $1100 on a good Bracket lift (procomp stage II), most people can go SAS for a few hundred more. That $1100 when put into proper mods (NOT SAS), an IFS truck will out wheel a bracket lift any day of the week.

Who needs experience when you got a guy on a 2.5-3" spring lift running 35's and no bracket lift. Yes he had to do some work to get the 35's on the taco, but work is free and $$$ on huge lifts is overrated.

Can a stock suspension on a $1000 4" bracket lift with factory travel amount do this on 35's? Even with Lockers? I don't think so. Oh yah and a 4" Procomp bracket lift for a taco runs about $1800 with shocks. :shocked: And those idiots only say it clears 33's. :lof: Ok yeah whatever. Anything to sell more of your stuff and take advantage of the mall crawlers.

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You'd be surprised where you can go with 31" MT Baja claws and an Aussie locker.

A set of front and rear lockers is money well spent. :great: 2 Aussies would cost as much as a cheap 4" bracket lift and get you further than one as well.

I understand about the bracket lift not getting me anymore suspension. I am running leaf packs in the rear rather than blocks. So I will gain flex back there. Ane the 35's and Elocker will help out alot. Around where I live there arent any CRAZY trails. Plus my toyota is a DD and I only wheel it every once in a blue moon. I also understand that an SAS is a much bigger bang for my buck. But I dont have another car to drive while im doing it nor do I have the shop to do it in. Yes I will someday SAS it but for a 20 year old kid workin at Taco Bell I think the setup I will be running for a while will do me just fine.

I can run 35's with a 2 inch BL right now no problem.

Not to mention your gonna wanna re gear when you hit 35s.
id do 5.71's with a 22r :bigok:

I do fine with 4.88s and 35s on my 1981 22r. Plenty of power (for a 22r) and my speedometer is bang on.

XXX22r and others: Until recently I haven't taken the bumpstop extensions out, still no broken cv's yet but they haven't broken since I owned it and still never replaced before hand. They still have the stops, just allows the arms to move up more, if i come to a point where it over extends and binds up then I may put em' back on, for now they make a hell of a difference tho. Rogueyota: Glad it gave u some advice, just do what u wanna do and that's where the real knowledge comes from, trial and error, from where we are, the lift will suit u just fine, i'm proof and have kept up with the big boy toys here and out-performed the stockers as well, it's a good medium for now and will get u the clearance and contrary to others (ssshhh..... it's a secret........) travel. Cool to see we're close to one another, u should p.m. me and we can go wheeling sometime.

Like I said guys and gals, I would love to go sas, 36s, 5.71s, etc, etc. But in this time of life - ain't happening. Wheel what u got and enjoy it. At least the no bump extensions isn't half as bad as cranking the torsion bars, my ride is still soft and level :bigok:
Agreed... lockers and gears will take you a lot further than lift, but sometimes u just need clearance.

nice info on here guys...just an update (since i just started the lifting process on my 4runner), I installed 1.5" bj spacers, some 3" blocks in the back and cranked to t-bars to level it out. I have a 3" body lift and will be installing that as soon as i get my spindle bushings in (worn slap ass out). I am running 33" interco trxus's right now with no problems. One thing you will need to buy (which i didnt see noted anywhere) is if you do do the bj spacers, youre either gonna have to get some offset rims or get some wheel spacers. I installed 1.5" wheel spacers on my rig to prevent the inner part of the tire from rubbing on the upper a-arm. And search toyota bj spacer install before doing it. I dont know about any one else on here, but the bj spacers i bought wouldnt fit right up in the upper a-arm, had to cut the inside part out and bend it back (nothing major, but had to be done). I have made absolutely no power mods/regearing on this truck and have experienced little to no power loss. I did buy a crawler cam for it though just for the sake of doing it (lowrangeoffroad.com sells em for $108...cant beat that price with a stick). Ill update pics of my rig when i get it all put back together.

what offset and wheel width was your wheels? Assuming 33 x 12.50 R 15's. People say that all the time you need wheel spacers etc etc but they never give all the info 100%. Either they give backspacing and not wheel width or they give wheel width without backspacing or fail to give the tire width either it be 12.50, 10.50, 11.50 etc etc. All that info matters when saying you need wheel spacers. And yes all of the BJ spacers require you to cut the UCA. At least for the 86-95 trucks. Not sure on the Tacos.

Some typical wheel backspacing limitations listed below:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...ml#BackSpacing

I was just gonna come back an edit that as that page helped me decide to mount my 33x12.50 on my 4.75 15X8's. And also is basically saying that my combo should clear without issues. But like that says it's also dependent on tire geometry too as some 12.50's measure 11.50 and some measure 13.50.

mine are maybe 10.5's, but i cant remember the exact measurement (dont have truck handy to go look). they are a narrower tire, not exactly what i wanted but hey, i got a full set for $350. the wheels are stock yota wheels, 16X8 i think?? not sure of backspacing either...

Everything you said is exactly how I feel.

As for everyone else this is my truck and im going to do what I can for now. I really do appreciate the input though guys. I really do wish I had enough ducks and they were in a row so I could SAS my truck. But now just isnt the time. I am glad I didnt do a body lift though and was patient and am going to get a somewhat legit lift. Im guessing to everyone else SAS is as legit as it gets. But here in the Rogue Valley there really isnt anything that my setup wont make through with some hard work. And once again it is my DD so I dont need anything too crazy. When I can afford another DD trust me. The Toyota is going under the knife!!:grouphug: lol

Something like this in the front and
3 inch blocks ?

Would that be a good combo.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/85-98-Toyota-IFS-Pickup-4Runner-2-5-Front-Leveling-Lift-Kit-Diff-Drop-4WD-4x4-/261087144798?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1993%7CMake%3AToyota%7CModel%3APickup&hash=item3cca01ab5e&vxp=mtr

Bump, anyone still input ?

Are body lift same as rear BLOCKS lift ?

If I went with 3 inch block , and 2.5" Bj front spacers, well this be a good lift ?

Nope, different things:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...it.shtml#Lifts
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...es.shtml#FAQ14

Be sure to figure in the cost of new u-bolts (if the blocks do not come with them) and longer shocks.

You'll likely find the 2.5" ball joint spacers are not really that tall:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...cer.shtml#FAQ2

At that height, you'll be pretty close to maxed out up front with little or no down travel and a very rough ride, but to each his own.