Big bowl full of newbie questions
 

I am looking into buying some new suspension for my 1986 4runner, what is the best kind of suspension and leaf springs to buy?

OME. Although, they are seriously back ordered right now. Supposedly there is a shipping container coming over and should be here in a week or two though :)

More info?
budget?
can you weld?
what do you want to do with the truck?

With IFS, you can get 4" or 6" kits that will lift the front, and then even out the rear with taller springs (harsher ride), or weld in longer springs (google "63 inch Chevy springs+toyota=pirate4x4.com" and you'll come across some great stuff - the thread is like 30 pages long with lots of pics).

Or, you can do the ZUK mod (search), which is a helper spring inbetween the frame and the stock springs to give you about 3-5" of lift over stock. I'm about to do this, just got the parts this week.

For the front, you can also crank the torsion bars to get 1-1.5 inches of added over stock lift, but you sacrifice ride comfort.

It's up to what you want the suspension for, your tools/expertise, and your budget :)

Good luck!

Good Info Philbert!! I went with OME springs and bj spacers up front. Great for daily driving and mild off roading. Wish i would have went with 63" chevy springs in the rear now, more flex.

thanks!
 

You guys are really helpful every time I have a question. I looked into the OME system and I am pretty sold on it. Now I just need to save up the money. My expertise/tools level is none, I take it to the mechanic or friends every time. I just ordered 100 square feet of the best fatmat to line the floor, walls and ceiling with, and I also ordered the hood stuff too. I'm going to paint on herculiner on top of it. I do have a new question though... Is it possible to install the K&N Apollo air intake system in my 86 turbo 4runner? I found this link to buy it...
http://www.simpleautosports.com/prod...oducts_id=3789
and this is what K&N has to say about it...http://www.knfilters.com/universal/apollo.htm
I should probably just start a new thread for this, but you guys seem to be really knowledgeable. Thanks for the info.

are you installing the OME system yourself? If I was to buy the entire system and have a mechanic do it, what would I be looking at for a price tag on it?

where are you from philbert? I am from northern california and I see those tsunami signs all over the place.

Personally, I'm planning on doing the install myself, IIRC, I'm out a total of about 860 for the full kit from www.rocky-road.com. Leaf springs are easy as pie to remove, and the torsions don't look too difficult either. I figure that if I have issues with bolts, it should take me a good afternoon or two to get the system in.

Also consider your long term goals for the truck. Don't a ton of money of IFS suspension if you plan on SAS.

Brembo brake upgrade questions...
 

I'm looking into upgrading my brake system with Brembo components. I have a 86 turbo 4runner and the brake pads and rotors are getting shot. I wanted to know if i can put disc brakes for the rear wheels, if thats a good idea, and what parts/modifications i would have to do. Has anyone done what I am talking about with any brand brakes? Also, does anyone know where i can find cheap brembo parts, or if there are better components.

looking for a quiet exhaust system
 

I am looking into upgrading my exhaust system on my 1986 4runner turbo sr5 to something that is quiet and gives me better gas mileage. So far I am interested in the Dynomax VT muffler but i'm not sure. What size inlet/outlet should i go with if I upgrade my exhaust? Is bigger better? Also does anyone know of any other muffler systems that are known to be quiet and give you more horsepower/gas mileage? Thanks.

86 4runner passenger window problem... need help
 

hey, I drive a 86 4runner sr5. The electric passenger side window will go down but it is stuck down and won't go back up. Does anyone know what might be wrong with it? I called my mechanic to ask how much it will cost to fix it and they quoted me in between 2-500 dollars. I want to do it myself. I think it might be the electronic switch since it will go down but not up. Has anyone had this problem and fixed it or had it fixed? How hard is it to do this job?

Thank you
Nick

Check out 4crawlers web site, he goes over how to fix the problem that your having.

86 4runner passenger power window problem...
 

My passenger side power window is stuck half way down, it won't go up or down when i press either the driver side master switch or the passenger side window switch. I was wondering if anyone else has ran into this problem, or if you know what might be wrong with it. i took the inside door panel off last night to try to wiggle some wires to see if that would fix it but that didn't work.

Thanks

Can you hook the window motor up to a 12 volt battery directly to see if it will go up and down, that will tell you if the motor is good or bad.

breather filter question
 

I have a breather filter that fits 3/8"-1/2"(8-12mm) tubes and i want to put it in my 86 turbo 4runner 22re. I found this guys picture of what he did but i dont know how it worked for him, has anyone else done this, or do you know how it would work and how i put it in. It looks like he put it on his pcv valve.

Why?

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I wanted to ask the guy that
 

i saw this picture on yotatech and the guy didnt say why he put the breather filter in. My tube that goes there is kinked like a hose that stops pushing out water. My mechanic said it shouldnt make a difference, but this picture looks like it would be better than what i have now. I also have the breather filter already and sort of want to do something with it.

this is sort of what mine looks like
 

except my tube is bent and full air flow is restricted

the tube leads to..
 

it leads to my air intake from the top of the engine

you do realize that adding a breather filter like that causes an metered vacuum leak right? Carbed vehicles "might" be able to get away with it with some tweaking of the carb mixture, but EFI's are not gonna like it.

why would that guy do that then?

because it "looks cool"

i found this other one...
 

i dont know if this person put 2 of them on for the reason of the vaccum leak.

i just thought that maybe I would get better gas mileage or something if I put it on there. It looked like it would give my engine more air.

your engine doesn't suck air through the valve cover how would it get more air if adding a breather filter? :D Well it will get more air by sucking in air through the breather via the PCV valve but all that takes place effectiely bypassing the AFM. Which means the motor is getting more air to it than the ECU sees, which can possibly cause a lean fuel mixture, which is a no no on any motor and is absolutely a very bad thing on a turbo motor.

The photo above is fine since your disabling the PCV system. But the PCV system almost adds to you gas mileage not takes away from it. This is only in theory though since the PCV system is meant to allow you to burn un burnt gas fuses from the crank case.

People do these things because they do not understand how an engine works and thus do not understand what the consequences are of such modifications. They do them because of the "cool" factor. But IMO there is nothing cool about possibly running your engine lean and therefore warping heads, burning valves, putting a hole in a piston etc etc.

thanks for your explanation, I dont want to put this breather filter on anymore. where else can I use it that will actually help?

look into the breather mod for your rear diff.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...h/IMG_0166.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...h/IMG_0167.jpg

thats the exact breather filter that i bought from kragen auto. what are the benefits of doing this

if you submerge the rear diff in water it has the possibility to suck water in through the factory breather. Especially if you stop turning the wheels. Extending it and adding a filter will minimize this or eliminate that chance altogether.

nice, did you do this to yours? if you did, what are the steps, or is there a write-up on this already? I think I know how to do this already, but I would like to see exactly what the steps are. I also need to change my differential fluid anyway so this might go along with that project. Do you know how to change your differential fluid?

plenty of discussions on here about it. I think either 4crawler or 4x4wire has a writeup on it as well.

have not done this to mine as of yet. I am too lazy. lol.

I probably should as I think mine is stuck shut which is causing my pinion seal to leak. haha.

4crawler writeup. http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...html#Breathers

what should i search to find this write-up

I added the link above. 4crawler give some part numbers for the hose adapter as well.

FYI your front diff also has one of these as well. but usually a 90 degree adapter will be needed to clear some stuff under there.

Not sure the manual trans and transfer case has them though.

thanks!

I know that you don't have a 3rd generation 4Runner but this website has a lot of good writeups including, the differential breather mod and how to change the differential fluid. He does a really good job of listing all the supplies/parts (with part #'s) you will need for each mod. I hope this helps!
http://www.4runners.org/


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Back to the original breather question, I have one of those stupid little breathers on the front of my valve cover only because the rubber hose that was there was hard and brittle, basically fell apart in my hands when I was putting the motor back together. I had the breather lying around and had also taken notice that all of pictures of engines LCE's site have one? It is just a vent for crankcase pressure right? I don't notice my engine not liking it, I was worried at first that it might spray oil, but it doesn't so far.

EDIT: Just remembered why I did not put another piece of hose there, IIRC the hose had a curve in it an was a different size on the ends.

they also sell them with their intake kits as well, but Personally I do not like the idea of un metered air making it's way into a motor. :D

I recently replaced both hoses that come out of the top of my 22RE valve cover - they were brittle and cracking too....I think each was less than $10 for OEM at www.toyotapartszone.com. Cheaper than dealer.