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Taube94 Jan 23, 2020 05:37 PM

Starting Problems
 
I have a 87 4Runner that’s been sitting for several years. A fresh battery, draining fuel tank, blowing out the fuel lines, fuel pump, fuel filter, spark plugs and wire I can get it to start and running for a second and then it dies. I was thinking it might be a timing problem but wanted to ask someone else’s opinion.
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scope103 Jan 23, 2020 07:23 PM

Welcome to YotaTech.

"Start and run for a few seconds then dies" is the classic sign of a VAF-COR problem. And it's the easiest to diagnose. Jumper FP to B+ in the diagnostic connector (this forces the fuel pump to run with key-on). If it runs now, you have a problem in the VAF-COR circuit.

Taube94 Jan 24, 2020 05:33 AM

I tried and same problem.

5 Fists Jan 24, 2020 01:42 PM

Does your pump come on? I know you said you drained the tank, blew out the lines, replaced the filter and pump, but are you actually getting fuel after doing all of that? You're getting spark if it's firing up, so it's no air or no fuel stopping it from continuing to run I would think.

scope103 Jan 24, 2020 02:22 PM

The "easy" way to check whether the pump is moving fuel is to replace the fuel return line from the FPR with 6mm/1/4" vinyl tubing, place it into a suitable container, and run the fuel pump with FP to B+. There is no spec, but I get about 1/2 liter/min. If that "test" passes, try to start. If the fuel flow cuts off, you may not have enough flow out of the pump to hold the pressure in the rail.

(The fuel return line is low-pressure, so you can remove and replace it with the hose clamp. The high-pressure connections are sealed with crush washers, which must be replaced each time they're opened. Why bother with that?)

Austin92pickup Jan 24, 2020 10:44 PM

Ok thanks

RAD4Runner Jan 25, 2020 12:52 PM

Happy New Decade and welcome to the forum... BUT

Originally Posted by Austin92pickup (Post 52437262)
Im having a similiar issue on my 1992 toyota pickup 3.0 v6.Starts then stalls.

Did you bother to do what have been posted above? The reason for this forum is for us to learn from others' experience.

Taube94 Jan 25, 2020 01:28 PM

I haven’t had a chance to try yet. Probably tomorrow

Taube94 Jan 27, 2020 08:59 AM

I tried what Scope13 said and got great flow.

RAD4Runner Jan 27, 2020 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Taube94 (Post 52437322)
I tried what Scope13 said and got great flow.

... and did it fix the problem?

Taube94 Jan 27, 2020 11:30 AM

No. Starts runs for a second and dies

RAD4Runner Jan 27, 2020 11:53 AM

This will help troubleshooting:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f199...l#post52312190


Originally Posted by Taube94 (Post 52437331)
No. Starts runs for a second and dies

That's it?
Even if you keep on running the fuel pump with "FP to B+" ?
If you'd like people to help you from thousands of miles away, you need to let us see, hear, smell, feel what you're dealing with.

Taube94 Jan 27, 2020 12:38 PM

I got to stay running while you hold the pedal but it will not idle

Taube94 Jan 27, 2020 12:39 PM

Trying add a video

Jimkola Jan 27, 2020 09:43 PM

Was it running ok just prior to sitting several years, or were there issues?

Taube94 Jan 28, 2020 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by Jimkola (Post 52437366)
Was it running ok just prior to sitting several years, or were there issues?

it was my dads until he passed. He said the motor was getting weak but never really said exactly what was going wrong

RJR Jan 28, 2020 07:31 AM

Does the check engine light (CEL) work? It should come on when you turn the key to ON, but not START. If the CEL works, check for codes. That involves shorting a couple of pins in the diag connector (not sure which ones on an '87 - someone here can probably help) and counting flashes.

If the CEL doesn't work, fix that first so you can check for diagnostic codes. Diagnostics on these engines are not sophisticated, but can be helpful.


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