does anyone actually wheel their truck with 33x12.5 and ome coils?
OME 901 rear springs and 33x12.5 bfg m/t, you can see they are far too big for the wheel wells.
It seems like this lift is very common as well as that tire size but i never heard anyone saying they have this much clearance issues?????? [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4L7rJpBWtw[/youtube] |
hmmm... that could cause some problems I suppose... :roll:
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Ouch.
You could body lift it for cheap. Just throwing out ideas. |
That does look like an issue you got there.... I say get 32s, i've never rubbed one and I've been half up the doors in mud out here in oregon with some nasty washed out trails and climbing it over downed trees (big trees) and never had a rub, even full flex with only two on the ground. i know some people say to use a drop bracket for the panhard bar and I would say add a standoff for the bump stops.
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FWIW, i run the 901 coils with 33x10.5 ATs and i have zero rub issues on the rear... i have about half inch clearence, but the tire tucks just fine into the fender...
i think your problem is just the width of the tire... and the fact that it looks like your have some major offset on those rims... i run the stock SR5 rims and like i said they clean, but when i had my 32x11.5 BFG MTs with an unknown offset rim they rubbed like crazy... |
Not sure what lift those OME coils give.... I run about 3-4" of lift and 33x12.5's. A small body lift and/or coil spacer & Balljoint spacer lift would probably due the trick. Also remember wheel backspacing/offset will play a large role in what clears....
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:saw:
Hit it with the sawzall |
Alright thanks for the replies. here is the setup on my truck
OME 900 coils (same lift as 901s just softer spring rate, and these are a copy of the landcruiser springs, about 2-3" lift) SDORI 1.5" BJ spacers Skyjacker hydro7000 shocks 15x8 rims with 3.75" backspacing 33x12.5 m/t's This is my first 4x4 rig so i had no idea what to do with it when i got it in February so i found this site and basically went with the setup that alot of people recommended. It was cheap, and worked well according to many users of this forum. there are alot of people that run this width of tires with this exact lift and never mentioned a problem like iam having. All i heard was pound the pinch weld flat! LOL! Guess i will start cutting next weekend |
I second the 32"s. I recently put in a set of 32x11.5x15 BFG AT T/As and I only have the 2" SDORI coil spacer in the rear and they work great. I really need to get some cruiser coils under there though... No me gusta butt sag :(
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I have the same lift with 33x12.50s but some with some additions. I have a 1" BL and I have a Marlin rear with much more clearance. I don't think I've ever seen a problem like the one you are having. My recommendation would be to first get the BL but if you're not for that then go for the 32's.
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+1 on the body lift.
As I recall I also trimmed the fenders 2in and that seemed so clear up the majority of rubbing issues. |
Wow, my 35's tuck inside the fenders on my 1990. Seems like the offset is what's killing you.
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Originally Posted by 94Runner4x4
(Post 51157353)
I have the same lift with 33x12.50s but some with some additions. I have a 1" BL and I have a Marlin rear with much more clearance. I don't think I've ever seen a problem like the one you are having. My recommendation would be to first get the BL but if you're not for that then go for the 32's.
And i think i will chop the fenders this weekend to gain a bit more clearence, i could care less if i destroy the rest of my stock rear bumper (i already tore the drivers side off that day) |
Originally Posted by FetusGoulash
(Post 51157719)
Do you have any fitment issues with bumpers after the body lift? i plan to get aftermarket bumpers and would hate for them to look like ass because they were meant for a truck with no body lift.
And i think i will chop the fenders this weekend to gain a bit more clearence, i could care less if i destroy the rest of my stock rear bumper (i already tore the drivers side off that day) You just have to mess with the front bumper. http://www.toyotasurf.asn.au/techsite/bodylift.htm |
Just throwin this out there...
Looking at your set up Inoticed you did not mention any sort of panhard drop bracket. When you lift your truck withoutnadjusting the pivot point/or length of the panhard bar your axle is offset to the passenger side. I noticed in your vid its the passenger side thats rubbing. Have look to see how off-center your axle is. |
Originally Posted by FetusGoulash
(Post 51157719)
Do you have any fitment issues with bumpers after the body lift? i plan to get aftermarket bumpers and would hate for them to look like ass because they were meant for a truck with no body lift.
And i think i will chop the fenders this weekend to gain a bit more clearence, i could care less if i destroy the rest of my stock rear bumper (i already tore the drivers side off that day) |
I just purchased and installed a Roger Brown (4Crawler, on this site) 1" bodylift on my '91 4runner. Simple mod, took me all of 'bout 4 1/2hrs, by myself with taking lots of smoking and coffee breaks. The whole 1" kit with front bumper brackets cost me $105 total. http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...l#Applications
Before http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m.../Before3-1.jpg After http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...t/After3-1.jpg I also have 2" coils spring spacers in the rear, from sdori.com. |
I couldn't watch the video cause my comps old but i heard it.
I would second the 12.5 issue I run sdori BJ and ome 900s on my 94 runner. As well i run interco tsl 34 9.5. they measured damn close to 34 tall when i got them. My only issue with rubbing so far is with my front pass side inner fender near the rear there is a bolt that won't stay in so the tire grabs it and spins it forward. I have had the rear as tucked as i think it will go and the tire sits perfectly up there at 20 psi i think it was. The front i haven't gotten anything wild. going out this weekend though. Second the pan hard extension as well. I think i like the idea of cutting it, welding in a couple threaded bungs and making it adjustable. |
Body lift. Summit has their brand for just over 100 $$
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Originally Posted by a4runnerfreak
(Post 51157996)
I just purchased and installed a Roger Brown (4Crawler, on this site) 1" bodylift on my '91 4runner. Simple mod, took me all of 'bout 4 1/2hrs, by myself with taking lots of smoking and coffee breaks. The whole 1" kit with front bumper brackets cost me $105 total. http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...l#Applications
Before http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m.../Before3-1.jpg After http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...t/After3-1.jpg I also have 2" coils spring spacers in the rear, from sdori.com. |
Originally Posted by Lumpy
(Post 51158106)
I was never really fond of the body lift, what I do like on the Runners is that the gas tank is raised...I really do no like how low mine sits...
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Originally Posted by 94Runner4x4
(Post 51158179)
The other side is where you will see the gas tank.
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No the tank stays with the frame. But I do think there is a mod to move the tank up, like you said.
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Originally Posted by 94Runner4x4
(Post 51158188)
No the tank stays with the frame. But I do think there is a mod to move the tank up, like you said.
Back to the original thread...Turbo may be right here, backspacing...I want to see how bad mine will rub, I'll get it out in the yard tonight. I have a few stumps i can get the wheels on to flex (IFS :hillbill:) out. |
Originally Posted by Hophead
(Post 51157967)
Just throwin this out there...
Looking at your set up Inoticed you did not mention any sort of panhard drop bracket. When you lift your truck withoutnadjusting the pivot point/or length of the panhard bar your axle is offset to the passenger side. I noticed in your vid its the passenger side thats rubbing. Have look to see how off-center your axle is. I suppose it is the offset of the wheels and the width of the tires causing the issues. Last time i listen to the masses on a forum :pop: and i do not plan to do a body lift or buy smaller tires. the truck does not need more money put into it to solve this issue. i will cut metal to fix this :banger: |
Originally Posted by FetusGoulash
(Post 51158765)
and i do not plan to do a body lift or buy smaller tires. the truck does not need more money put into it to solve this issue. i will cut metal to fix this :banger:
Good luck Alex |
Yes, a 1" bodylift will raise your center of gravity, 'bout .5%. But since your not going that route, and doing the saws-all thing, you don't to need worry anything 'bout that.
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Originally Posted by a4runnerfreak
(Post 51158823)
Yes, a 1" bodylift will raise your center of gravity, 'bout .5%. But since your not going that route, and doing the saws-all thing, you don't to need worry anything 'bout that.
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Alex, did you read the whole thread? Lol. I went the 1" bodylift route. Looks a hellva lot better than cut fenderwells. The OP said he wasn't going to do the bodylift. I agreed that a bodylift does raise the COG, but the 1" lift raise it by only .5%.........lol
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Here's a poser from yesterday...
http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/w...py_91/Flx2.jpg Oops http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/w...py_91/Flx6.jpg With the bumper bracket gone, The tires have room to move. I think I'm going to get coils before I wheel her though. Plenty of room in the front, not so much in the back. :shocked: :roll: |
fetasgoulash do you have 15x10 in wheels or 15x8s? i couldnt find it anywhere in your posts i may have missed it
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Originally Posted by yoder519
(Post 51158913)
fetasgoulash do you have 15x10 in wheels or 15x8s? i couldnt find it anywhere in your posts i may have missed it
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hey, freak, accroding to 4crawler, a body lift only raises the COG ~75% of what a suspension lift would... thus making it a better option of mild lift over coils and whatnot, and it makes sense... even tho the body gets higher, your big arse chunk of steel frame is stayin down low...
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Makes sense, good to know...
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Originally Posted by a4runnerfreak
(Post 51158855)
Alex, did you read the whole thread? Lol. I went the 1" bodylift route. Looks a hellva lot better than cut fenderwells. The OP said he wasn't going to do the bodylift. I agreed that a bodylift does raise the COG, but the 1" lift raise it by only .5%.........lol
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Originally Posted by Alex 400
(Post 51159216)
yeah i did read it. I guess i think about what i would do. If i cut the fender wells i would put some kind of flare on to cover up the nasty lookin' edge. really my distain of body lifts comes from the 2-4" body lifts that some trucks have. I will probably end doing a 1" body lift to clear a motor swap. an inch is ok. !
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Originally Posted by space-junk
(Post 51159197)
hey, freak, accroding to 4crawler, a body lift only raises the COG ~75% of what a suspension lift would... thus making it a better option of mild lift over coils and whatnot, and it makes sense... even tho the body gets higher, your big arse chunk of steel frame is stayin down low...
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trim the rear bumper back a bit and open up the wheel wells a bit (looks like you'd just be cutting out the rusted bits anyway)
*edit* didn't see this was already mentioned |
good luck finding a decent looking set of fender flares... to the best of my knowledge, only bushwacker makes flares for our 2nd gen runners and hear tell they are kind of cheesy...
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I am a composite manufacturer by trade so i will make my own set of flairs with very little effort. I will post pics when said flairs are built.
thanks for all the advise people
Originally Posted by space-junk
(Post 51159380)
good luck finding a decent looking set of fender flares... to the best of my knowledge, only bushwacker makes flares for our 2nd gen runners and hear tell they are kind of cheesy...
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