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qdude79 Mar 13, 2009 09:00 PM

A/C Idle Up VSV works, when jumpered! Little help please...
 
Getting my A/C ready for summer, noticed I didn't idle up when I turned it on. Went under the hood, checked my connection at the VSV, was good. Checked the pigtail for power, got it on one of the two prongs, assumed the other was the ground. One thing I did notice was that I got power from the pigtail whether the A/C was on or not, kinda like it was triggered by the ignition, not the A/C. At this point I'm thinking it's a bad VSV, but I wanted to be sure. Ran a jumper ground and used my test light for the positive... IT WORKED! Heard a click from the VSV! Started the truck, jumpered it again. Idled up as it should! So.... with power at the pigtail and a working VSV, why am I not getting it to switch under normal operation? :think:

Thoughts? Ideas?

gary96360 Mar 13, 2009 09:54 PM

is it just me or does the turning radius of a pickup is to big
 
whoops wrong thread

qdude79 Mar 14, 2009 08:56 AM

I'll agree about the radius, but I want to be cool while turning!;)

1989toy4wd Mar 14, 2009 09:24 AM

I am going to keep an eye on this, because mine does the same thing, I havent tested it to see if it works when I jumper it, but I am curious...it gets annoying having to hold the gas pedal a little bit at stop lights, doesnt it!!!:hillbill:

qdude79 Mar 18, 2009 08:43 PM

Nobody's ever encountered this??

C'mon guys! If my AC doesn't work at stoplights, MY MASCARA WILL RUN!!:pop:

iamsuperbleeder Mar 18, 2009 09:14 PM

I'm having "similar" issues, kinda:

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...up-vcv-176931/

qdude79 Mar 19, 2009 03:05 PM

Can someone with a functioning VSV take a test light to it and see what it is SUPPOSED to look like with the AC on vs. off??

RobD Mar 19, 2009 06:48 PM

My guess, and this is only a guess, is that there is a switch or relay on the ground side that when you engage your A/C is supposed to close and complete the grounding of the VSV up idle. Since I don't have my factory manuals handy, this is all just a big guess.

Did I mention that I'm guessing?

qdude79 Mar 19, 2009 07:14 PM

I imagine something like that, just have no idea where to start to look!

qdude79 Mar 19, 2009 09:10 PM

Hey RobD... just read this in the FSM. What do you make of it?

"The current applied to the AC idle-up VSV flows through Terminal 9 of the (AC) Amplifier ->Ground, activating the VSV"

Can this info be good for anything?

qdude79 Mar 22, 2009 07:15 PM

Ok, spent a bit of "quality time" with my test light and VSV today. At the connector in the pic, the connector is sideways.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...wnload-2-1.jpg
The "bottom" of the two terminals is constant switched 12v, regardless of whether the AC is on/engaged or not. The "top" terminal (with the end of my test light stuck in it) is strange. No power shown, and when manually grounded (with my test light) will fire off the VSV and the idle will come up some. However, when the AC engages, the test light comes on dim and the VSV fails to function. I thought this was the opposite of what was supposed to happen!!

Some electric guru needs to help my ignorant ass! I'm beggin' ya!!

abecedarian Mar 22, 2009 07:23 PM

Is the refrigerant charge good?
If the low pressure switch is off (meaning not enough refrigerant in the system), nothing other than the dash fan will work when you hit the a/c button.

qdude79 Mar 22, 2009 07:32 PM

AC works great. No issue there, aux fan kicks in, clutch engages, cold air, good reading from high and low off my bro's manifold. Just not enough rpm's at idle to keep it engaged when the clutch kicks in and drags down the motor about 150 rpms. VSV to the idle up valve doesn't function properly, though it will work when I jumper it manually.

abecedarian Mar 22, 2009 07:42 PM

well it appears the wiring is buggered. if everything else works that is.

qdude79 Mar 22, 2009 07:46 PM

Agreed, but I'm not sure how. This thing was owned by a lady that barely knew where to put the gas nozzle in to, so I'm pretty sure under the hood was relatively unmolested. Don't see much opportunity to screw up wiriing. Then again, it is "electrical." Anything's possible...

iamsuperbleeder Mar 22, 2009 07:49 PM

wiring get's brittle with age; I'm only assuming heat has gotten the best of it and cause with the 12v constant, or the switched ground to deteriorate... the fun part's going to be finding out where :roll:

for some reason, I haven't had issues with mine now for a whole week... I think it finally fixeded itself :think:

abecedarian Mar 22, 2009 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by iamsuperbleeder (Post 51095530)
... for some reason, I haven't had issues with mine now for a whole week... I think it finally fixeded itself :think:

Now that you've said it, get ready for problems. :hillbill:

iamsuperbleeder Mar 22, 2009 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by abecedarian (Post 51095538)
Now that you've said it, get ready for problems. :hillbill:

shhhhh... she's sleeping outside... she might hear you...

:hillbill:

qdude79 Mar 22, 2009 07:55 PM

Quoted from Daddy Qdude: "If it's got tits or tires, you're gonna have problems."

thook Mar 22, 2009 10:48 PM

This may help a bit.......

Check Fig. 2-12 under "mode sensors and switches"
http://autoshop101.com/

I'll dig for more, but you might want to also. Good site.


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