also do guys think i would need to re-gear
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sorry about the millions of questions:con: i just wanna make sure that this is something i can do and would want to do:D
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if you put a sbf in that truck, i would def go with a 351 unless you come across a deal on a 302. a 351 will stomp a 302 into the ground. 302 also has 5/16 rod bolts which will break if it gets wrung out too far. no substitute for cubic inches.
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ya but a 351 is harder to mount do to the distributer being in the back
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351 not 350
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Originally Posted by 881stGenRunner
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and it said i needed a min of 3'' lift is all that right? |
ya i guess so, sorry about that dude
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no prob
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Stock v6 rad flows enough to cool a chevy 350.
A little 302 would be find. Electric fan might be a smart investment though.. |
Originally Posted by Jay351
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Stock v6 rad flows enough to cool a chevy 350.
A little 302 would be find. Electric fan might be a smart investment though.. -thanx |
last qustion, ( I HOPE )
do i need a lift to drop in a 302 |
Chevy 350, much more accesseries, better power and easier to do since its been done alot. Also really easy to find them, considering every damn chevy V8 has a 350 in it pretty much.
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I think to be on the safe side you might have to do a 1-2" body lift but im NOT sure about that.
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if you've got the $$ do the LS2. tons of power, easy fuel injection (good point about hills) and parts are plentiful. say $6k for a running engine, and drop a t-56 out of a camaro behind it. 4wd burnouts sound like fun?
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...seems stupid unless you already have or can get a cheap-o running 302. I wouldn't bother with a tranny adapter, just use a Mustang T5. The location of the trans mount etc is going to change so keeping your stock trans won't really help much. Definitely go with a carb. 302's are long motors so keep that in mind, you might have to relocate the radiator or mess with the firewall. Have you done an engine swap before? Think about how much money you will need then multiply it by 3!!! Here's some stuff to ponder:
radiator/fan clearance (will probably have to go electric) new wiring spliced into old harness new driveshaft new trans mount/crossmember motor mounts? floor pan/trans tunnel clearance oil pan/steering clearance (front sump vs rear sump) exhaust header/manifold clearance fuel line/fuel pump throttle linkage clutch linkage fan shroud etc etc etc :D |
Also consider emissions testing if that applies to you and will the Toyota rearend and driveline handle the extra power. I also vote for FI over carbs if you can afford it.
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Originally Posted by curtiswyant
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...seems stupid unless you already have or can get a cheap-o running 302. I wouldn't bother with a tranny adapter, just use a Mustang T5. The location of the trans mount etc is going to change so keeping your stock trans won't really help much. Definitely go with a carb. 302's are long motors so keep that in mind, you might have to relocate the radiator or mess with the firewall. Have you done an engine swap before? Think about how much money you will need then multiply it by 3!!! Here's some stuff to ponder:
radiator/fan clearance (will probably have to go electric) new wiring spliced into old harness new driveshaft new trans mount/crossmember motor mounts? floor pan/trans tunnel clearance oil pan/steering clearance (front sump vs rear sump) exhaust header/manifold clearance fuel line/fuel pump throttle linkage clutch linkage fan shroud etc etc etc :D How do you suppose he mates his transfercase to a mustang tranny? The v6 tranny is plenty strong. Make it work. the v6 drivetrain has been known to hold up with v8's... if you are not thrashing on it all the time.. |
but who wouldnt wanna thrash that arond all the time?
id personally go with efi, carbs may be easier yada yada yada, but if u dont know what ur doin ur gonna screw it up. seems like u may know at least the basics, but efi seems like a better choice to me. of course im pretty happy with the power level of my 22re too... lol |
Ok, I am a Ford guy through and through. I bleed Ford Blue. If it were my rig, I would definately go with the 302 EFI out of a 5.0 Mustang. There are tons of motors out there. I would look for an 87 (California Model) through 92 5.0 HO motor. They have the MAF sensor which was a huge improvement over the earlier Speed Density EFI systems and those year motors were forged from the factory. Crank, rods and pistons. You could easily slap a 250 shot on those 302s and it would last 40K before poping a head gasket.
Bone stock, they put out anywhere from 225-240 HP and a rock solid 300 ft/lb of torque. I very much doubt ANYONE would need more than that for a trail rig. And, if it is daily driver, definately gear it down. The 302 is just like the 3.4 where the lower the cruising RPMs, the better the fuel economy. And with all the torque on demand at a low RPM, there is no reason NOT to be running taller gears. I would stay away from the 302 truck motors mainly because they don't have the power of the EFI 302 out of the Mustangs. But definately stay with EFI and put an electric fan on the radiator. I don't know jack about the swap but I would imagine that it wouldn't be horrible. If I were to do anything else, it would be an LS1 swap. But then you are playing with a lot of power and, in my opinion, GM reliability. The LS series of motors are known to bend pushrods if over revved or a gear is missed. If you stay with a Slush Box, then that probably won't be a problem. Just my $.02. |
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