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Corey Apr 30, 2011 02:50 PM

New PC ram
 
The gaming PC I built Christmas of 2007 had two one GB sticks of very good Corsair ram called Dominator DDR 2 timed at 1066 MHz.

My youngest son stopped by a bit ago and gave me two sticks of two GB each Gskill ram timed at 800 MHz.
A little slower in the timing, but double the ram.

XP Pro only shows 3.25 GB of ram though, a fault with XP itself.
I can not remember if XP is utilizing all of the four GB of ram or not.

But we fired up Unreal Tournament Three and tested it, and the game ran silky smooth, but it always did before, but the PC seems to be running better with it.

I use to play a lot of UT3 in the past, but I have not touched a PC game in probably over two years.

What a joy it was firing up the game and playing it again.
A little rusty, but I got back into it right away.

I had forgotten how much fun PC gaming is, and I hope to have some free time to play UT3 more.

It was great to get back and play it again after a few years.

Double the ram is always good, and I already have one of the best video cards back from the time I built the PC, so I am not going to upgrade it.

Will probably build a new PC a few Christmases from now utilizing the latest CPU and technology.
The one I built back then was top notch.

Team420 Apr 30, 2011 04:50 PM

have u tried windows 7 yet? I just intalled it a month or 2 ago, and with the same hardware.. (3.2 ghz core i5 intel, 8 gig corsair ram, pny 1ghz vid card...etc) the windows 7 is far superior to xp.... everything moves smooth and fast.... although... if u built ur pc in 07, some of the hardware may not play nice with 7...

I honestly think xp just couldnt use all the ram it had availible...

Corey Apr 30, 2011 05:04 PM

Not going to try Windows 7 until I build my next PC.
I also heard the opposite, that Windows 7 will install and run better than XP on older rigs than mine.

Not that mine is that out of spec.
Here is my build:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f98/...puters-134418/

xxxtreme22r Apr 30, 2011 06:14 PM

Corey:

32 bit XP only supports up to 3.5GB depending on chipset.

64 bit xp supports 4 GB but I wouldn't rec xp 64 bit as the support is horrible and it's very problematic.

guitarplayer360 Apr 30, 2011 06:30 PM

your OS is 32-bit, which can only handle up to 4 gigs, but in reality you only get about 3.5 because some memory is allocated to other hardware components like graphics.

You built the box so you probably know what memory expansion will do, and the purpose behind it, but if I was building a game machine I would really only worry about my graphics card, processor, memory speed, and software/os tweaks. 2-3 gigs is plenty space for game environments to load.

drift_king Apr 30, 2011 08:32 PM

32 bit xp supports 3.5 gb but will only utilize 2 GB of it
32 bt win 7 utilizes 4
and 64 bit system support up to more than u can currently put into a computer

Magnusian May 13, 2011 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by Corey (Post 51713624)
Not going to try Windows 7 until I build my next PC.
I also heard the opposite, that Windows 7 will install and run better than XP on older rigs than mine.

Not that mine is that out of spec.
Here is my build:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f98/...puters-134418/

Some (of the more expensive) editions of 7 also come with XP-mode which uses Virtual PC and is a 32bit edition of XP Home iirc. Unfortunately XP-mode runs through a Remote Desktop window and some programs do not like this as DirectX support is still a little wonky or because they refuse to run through a remote session. When you build your new machine, make sure you install service pack 1 for Win 7 as well as this improves RDC integration and solves a lot of earlier issues with running some software in XP-mode. Make sure you don't feed it too much ram either or it will severely impact performance of other software running on the host OS.

Also, ram is getting cheaper and cheaper by the day, when you build your new machine if you should be able to throw a lot of ram into it without breaking the bank, consider 12gb or more depending on the cost by that time. I've got 8gb in my machine at home and honestly some days it just doesn't seem like enough.

Corey May 13, 2011 06:51 AM

I will probably not build a new gaming/work PC until Christmas of 2012.
Will def throw the max ram at it, and by then Windows 8 will be out :D

Seriously though I see no reason to build a new PC as of right now.
Mine is plenty fast, plays Unreal Tournament 3 with no lag, and does everything I ask of it including photo editing.

MudHippy May 13, 2011 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by xxxtreme22r (Post 51713659)

64 bit xp supports 4 gb but i wouldn't rec xp 64 bit as the support is horrible and it's very problematic.

Support isn't an issue anymore. As newer OSs are already 64 bit, so drivers are readily available if needed. And after service pack 1/Professional people have had fewer problems with it. Since service pack 2 even fewer. XP Pro 64 bit service pack 2 runs just fine on my system.

But so does XP 32 bit service pack 3. I have both. And there's not much difference. Not on my system anyways. Which ain't saying much these days. 1gb ram @ 464mhz x 2.32ghz Athlon 3000+ w/40gb SATA 150 HD & GeForce 6600 GT 128mb @ 1116mhz, 550mhz core clock. It's still got one of the best DVD-RAM supermulti-recorder(DVD-RAM/DVD-RW/DVD+RW/DVD+R DL/DVD-R DL/CD-R/CD-RW) drives you can buy even after all these years though(years = ~7).:D

And BTW...

Windows XP Professional x64 edition (04/22/2005)

The main advantage of a 64-bit operating system comes in its ability to handle huge amounts of memory. Thirty-two-bit windows is limited to 4gb of physical ram, with only 2gb available to an application, though there is a workaround that lets some applications access up to 3gb. Sixty-four-bit windows blows away this limitation, supporting up to 128gb of physical ram and 16 terabytes of virtual memory.

Of course, most systems don't have close to 2gb of ram, and even if yours did, the extra memory wouldn't come in handy when balancing your checkbook or downloading mp3s. Microsoft designed windows xp professional x64 edition for workstation applications such as cad/cam, 3d modeling, and scientific simulations, where extra memory support promises a big boost in performance. For example, instead of storing data on the hard drive, active applications will be able to store everything in much-faster ram instead.

Even without massive amounts of memory, applications currently optimized for the 64-bit architecture may also see a speed boost as they take advantage of the processor's full capabilities. This could extend the performance boost to areas such as 3d gaming and video, sound, and photo editing.
http://reviews.cnet.com/windows/wind...-31346186.html


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