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upndair 01-28-2004 07:29 PM

Speaking of welding...
 
After spending a long time NOT being able to winch myself out of a mud hole last weekend I decided that I needed a new alternator with enough power to actually run the winch. My Orbital battery and pukey alternator can't even handle just spooling the winch in without a load.

Well, I've always wanted the onboard welder - especially after ripping the perches off my rear axle twice. I called Premier Power welder - that guy seems to know his stuff!

Anyway, to make a short story long, I wanted to buy just the alternator for now, and the voltage regulator that goes with it. They told me that their control boxes would only work with their alternators. I don't know how that makes any sense unless they do something unique on the connectors. It was about $200 more to buy the alternator with the voltage regulator, then get the control unitl later (which comes with the voltage regulator). Anyway, I got a deal with no tax, free shipping and 25' leads at cost - not to mention the free T-shirt!

jruz 01-28-2004 07:33 PM

Cool.

Do they offer wire-feed on that thing?

Jim

upndair 01-28-2004 07:47 PM

Yep... I didn't order this. Perhaps some ideas for birthday presents.

Wire feed

crash 01-30-2004 11:27 PM


Originally posted by upndair
Yep... I didn't order this. Perhaps some ideas for birthday presents.

Wire feed

We used this at goldendale, and it rocks, so I ordered one, just waiting for it to show up :D

upndair 01-31-2004 07:27 AM

Not having a mobile welder sucks. The only welder I have right now is a Lincoln Arc welder. It works well, but very, very heavy. I have two places that I can plug it in. In my garage, where my truck no longer fits and since my wife's van has preference to the spot that is open enough to fit in, I don't get to even try any more. The other spot is in my shed. This spot works fine - in the summer. Right now it's so wet that I don't want to even walk on it, let alone drive on it and work on it.

I look forward the most, that actually having an alternator strong enough to let the winch pull me out of a mud hole. A new battery will also help. After talking with the guys at Premier Power Welder, I learned that the gel cel batteries suck when they get fully drained as they don't recharge well after that. I might keep the Orbital battery just for running the daily operations and hook up the winch and welder to a deep cycle battery.

Cebby 01-31-2004 10:21 AM


Originally posted by upndair
Yep... I didn't order this. Perhaps some ideas for birthday presents.

Wire feed

That is a sweet setup!!!

914runner 02-01-2004 08:44 PM

that thing is nice but would you have to carry a tank for the gas aroung with you?

upndair 02-01-2004 08:48 PM


Originally posted by 914runner
that thing is nice but would you have to carry a tank for the gas aroung with you?
Nope, you can use the flux filled core. I guess it's not "quite" as good as using the gas, but works very well.

MNBOY 02-03-2004 03:12 PM

Gibby,
Sorry to hijack your thread for a minute, but for anyone looking for onboard welding without the high amp alternator, I still have one of the Ready Welder units available for sale. Info can be found in this thread.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...threadid=13187
I'm done with my sales pitch now, thanks for the space.

96LtdYota 02-09-2004 09:13 PM

sadly to say i own a jeep, and i was winching last year and my battery got soo hot that the side terminal melted off.... im not kidding, and it is an optima yellow top, lets say i was unhappy about this one, and from now on to avoid messing up my last post on the $200 battery, i have a friend hold the rpms at a medium level while winching. be careful not to mess up an expensive battery, my advise would be to get a high output alternator

upndair 02-09-2004 09:21 PM

The new alternator is 155 amp and the Power welder set up comes with a hand throttle type of adaptor.

Shane 02-09-2004 09:35 PM


Originally posted by 96LtdYota
my battery got soo hot that the side terminal melted off.... im not kidding, and it is an optima yellow top, lets say i was unhappy about this one, and from now on to avoid messing up my last post on the $200 battery
Sorry to hear you learned that one the hard way, but the optimas with the side terminals can't handle a high load on those terminals. Use the main ones on top instead.

upndair 02-10-2004 08:23 PM

Well the welder is in!!!! It's a great looking unit. The alternator looks like it will be a perfect bolt on fit. There are about 6 wires to hook up. Then there's just mounting the alternator and finding a spot to mount the welder unit. The darn thing looks so good I want to mount it on the hood!

I am very impressed with the quality of everything I got.

The alternator's going in quick. I have to work on the axle swaps and air system upgrades before I get to spend any time working on this...:redface:

upndair 03-01-2004 09:26 PM

After a few mixups, this setup is finally complete and working. I had a problem with the first alternator - it didn't fit. I was accidentally shipped the incorrect alternator. Harry quickly replaced this with the correct model. Second, I got the power and battery wires reversed and just about burnt up my wiring!

With Harry's help we quickly figured out the problem and got everything perfect. Tomorrow, I get to start with my first weld, the finishing touch on my project, which is to weld the front lower shock mounts on to the axle housing.

upndair 03-02-2004 08:56 PM

Well the install looks good. I got my first chance to weld with it today. I'm not a great welder to begin with. I did find that welding with 3/32 rod was a lot better than the 1/8 rod I'm used to using. I had to get the power up just a little higher than their recommended settings.
The high pitched whine sure took a little getting used to! The spark was certainly smaller, but I think with a little practice, I'll like using this welder more. The spark was easier to control and easier to see what you're welding.

Here's some pics.
http://209.20.253.189/dsc00959.jpg
My first welding job with the new welder.
http://209.20.253.189/dsc00961.jpg
This is where I positioned the hand throttle.
http://209.20.253.189/dsc00962.jpg
This is the attachment to the throttle.
http://209.20.253.189/dsc00963.jpg
The completed installation of the unit.

upndair 03-21-2004 10:02 PM

Here's a quick link to our first trail side repair.

http://207.202.208.243/faithwheelers/030604b.htm


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