Those are two totally different rigs. The Blue one is a friend of mine's. His is SFA, and pretty well built. The other one is garbage in my opinion. Street queen material, to say the least... He's got a IFS kit, body lift, and stuffed those retarded Mickey Ts under it... :barf:

I'd say the SA rig on the left has about 3-5,000.00 in suspension and it probably works very well.

The one on the right probably has 4,000+ in junk and does not use it. It is a timebomb off-road

amen..

I have an IFS lift cause I didn't know anything about wheeling when I got it, it's doing alright so far, but if you want a big lift, just save for SAS right off the bat instead of buying suspension twice.

4Runnerkid, I did not mean what I said as a jab at you. I suppose it can be read as such, but it was not meant that way.

I will not entertain arguments that the lifts are strong though because you just added a bracket to something. In this case, the bracket weakens the system.

Bill's truck is too tall. I have met Bill and riden in the truck. It hauls tail, but is more of a So Cal truck than a CO truck.

I will bet you dollars to doughnuts that with 1500 bucks, a truck with a 1" bodylift and a rear locker will spank the pants off one with an IFS lift and open diffs. Assuming tire costs are a wash, and we all did the work ourselves, the IFS lift is 1500 in parts to do it right, I could still have a ton of beer money left after installing an ARB, compressor and bodylift while the IFS lifted truck has only a lift.

Jesus, what's up?

And 33's, two lockers and appropriate protection will get you any place you should take a truck with a body you cared about.

You guys are great!!!! Thanks for all the info, i think i am going to go the route that flygtenstein suggested and maybe down the road swap the IFS with a solid axle! Thanks again!

No worries dude. I did the suspension lift before I found Yotatech and knew how to build a cheaper (maybe better) suspension. I paid a lot for the Superlift kit, too. I admit, if I had the chance to do it again I would probably set mine up similar to yours. Locker(s), BJ spacers, OME coils, All-Pro control arms, maybe a 1" body... Then save for a SAS. Hindsight is always 20/20 though...You live and learn. I just want to give props to my Superlift kit. It has held up extremely well so far. And I have beat on it pretty hard. Enough to need a locker... If he wants to run a suspension lift, that's his thing. I just want to share that mine is tough, and has never let me down. And if he wants to hang with his buddies, a locker is a better investment for sure. There's my $.02... :great:

He-Suss What's up dude?

Can you possibly get away on a Sat and Sun if it's really great camping run?

I'm looking to put together a run to the Navajo Nation. We have a guide. Great run to Navajo Mountain. You can see all the way to Lake Powell.

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To me, wheeling in CO is rock crawling. IFS lifts will get trashed wheeling rocks with a locker. I destroy stock stuff without adding bracketry to break, bend and fail.

Also, I think a person should wheel an IFS truck first and hard before a solid axle. You will have to learn how to drive and that is good. I am a mediocre driver at best, but I now know that IFS in a wheeling truck for me is worthless.

If you go with a body lift, take a look at 4Crawler's kit. I put his 1" on my old vehicle and was very happy with it. He's got a wealth of information on the rest of his web site, too.
-Michael

Yeah right, you have been through Lower Terminator with the flood water.

I would say you have come a long way baby !!!

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[QUOTE=Flygtenstein] Jesus, what's up?[QUOTE]


Nothing, my son.

Jesus? He-Suss?

Yup, that's me. :D

Adrian, how is the axle project coming out?

Steve, give me more details. Sure sounds like a blast...

Now, back to the thread...

Yup, I think getting a locker is in the works rather than getting an IFS lift. Man that would've sucked to spend that much money and find out after the fact that it was a waste if I get real serious into 4-wheeling to need a solid axle. By the way for all of you that have done the swap, how much welding experience was required and how much did you invest into it (time and money)?

The truck on the right has a 4" IFS & a (huge)4" body lift. That same 4runner was on e-bay selling an 8" "TRASH" lift.
I am doing a SAS on a 91 4runner. I have 4,550.?? in parts and still need a few things. (I'm going kinda big) The Marlin kit (-) springs & shocke $950.?? Alcan 8" springs $600.?? Randy's 529 gears & lockers $1300.?? Slee rear coil springs(we can talk about that later) $175.?? Used axle & rebuild kit $300.?? 15X39.5X15 TSL swampers mounted & bal. 1225.?? No shocks yet & dropped the front drive shaft off to be made to fit & was told a few hundred???@ Stans in Gulfport, MS. I will wheel the tires off of it!!!!

I am doing a SAS on a 91 4runner. I have 4,550.?? in parts and still need a few things. (I'm going kinda big) The Marlin kit (-) springs & shocke $950.?? Alcan 8" springs $600.?? Randy's 529 gears & lockers $1300.?? Slee rear coil springs(we can talk about that later) $175.?? Used axle & rebuild kit $300.?? 15X39.5X15 TSL swampers mounted & bal. 1225.?? No shocks yet & dropped the front drive shaft off to be made to fit & was told a few hundred???@ Stans in Gulfport, MS. I will wheel the tires off of it too!!!!