Manual hubs
#1
Manual hubs
I keep seeing everyone on here praising manual hubs vs auto hubs. My question is why are the manual hubs better? If this seems to be a dumb question I apologize... just would like a little info. btw (94 4rnr 3.0 5spd) no lift .... yet
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3 good answers really frikin quick. That pretty much covers everything I wanted to know.... except how to convince my g/f to get out in the snow and lock the pass hub....
Thanks
3 good answers really frikin quick. That pretty much covers everything I wanted to know.... except how to convince my g/f to get out in the snow and lock the pass hub....
Thanks
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You have ADD, which is essencially like having manual hubs but locked all the time. What most guys will do is leave them locked for the winter months so they don't have to get in and out of the truck. But unlock them for all spring/fall street driving. You will save wear and tear and a few mpg.
#12
My bad experience with 'Auto' hubs were on my '86 4Runner that I purchased with ~1200 miles on it in april of 86. With 7500 miles on the clock I lost 4 wheel drive for due to the failure of some little plastic part. Purchased a set of manual hubs to convert the Autos. Never had on issue on the 140K i put on the truck in 5 years before I sold it in '91...
If there was a kit to convert the hubs on my '05 Tacoma I would seriously look into it..
If there was a kit to convert the hubs on my '05 Tacoma I would seriously look into it..
#13
Unless there's some secret about Aisin auto hubs that I don't know, auto hubs of any brand should lock in reverse as well as forward, unless the hub is malfunctioning. If you know of Aisin hubs that didn't lock in reverse, there was a problem with the hubs.
I know with older Ford mechanical auto hubs, when the front axle shafts change direction, the hubs momentary unlock, and then relock. This happens in no more than 1/2 turn of the front axle shafts, and happens whether going from forward to reverse, or reverse to forward. I know this, because when I had my '94 Mazda Navajo (same as a same year 2 door Explorer), I found out myself by crawling underneath and turning the shafts.
Aisin auto hubs shouldn't operate too much differently than Ford hubs (unless they use vacuum or voltage), and I don't see why Toyota (or any company) would design the hubs in such a way so that you wouldn't have 4wd in reverse.
Manual hubs are definately better than auto hubs of any brand. I shattered the bodies of 3 automatic hubs on my Navajo (although they never failed to lock or unlock when not shattered) before I replaced them with Warn manual hubs.
If the Aisin auto hubs lock and unlock manually using CV shaft rotation like the older Ford auto hubs do, and if the rear tires spin while the front hubs are locking, there could be enough shock load to break something. That's why my hubs shattered. Fortunately, it was the hubs that broke and not something more expensive and harder to fix.
If original poster doesn't already have manual hubs, he should get them.
I know with older Ford mechanical auto hubs, when the front axle shafts change direction, the hubs momentary unlock, and then relock. This happens in no more than 1/2 turn of the front axle shafts, and happens whether going from forward to reverse, or reverse to forward. I know this, because when I had my '94 Mazda Navajo (same as a same year 2 door Explorer), I found out myself by crawling underneath and turning the shafts.
Aisin auto hubs shouldn't operate too much differently than Ford hubs (unless they use vacuum or voltage), and I don't see why Toyota (or any company) would design the hubs in such a way so that you wouldn't have 4wd in reverse.
Manual hubs are definately better than auto hubs of any brand. I shattered the bodies of 3 automatic hubs on my Navajo (although they never failed to lock or unlock when not shattered) before I replaced them with Warn manual hubs.
If the Aisin auto hubs lock and unlock manually using CV shaft rotation like the older Ford auto hubs do, and if the rear tires spin while the front hubs are locking, there could be enough shock load to break something. That's why my hubs shattered. Fortunately, it was the hubs that broke and not something more expensive and harder to fix.
If original poster doesn't already have manual hubs, he should get them.
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