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trystjr 04-07-2003 06:32 PM

Manual Hub Question
 
This link to ebay is selling to what looks like Aisin Manual Hubs, but the seller is describing them as automatic hubs. Can Someone verify this from the picture for me.
Thanks in Advance

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33728

1Runner 04-07-2003 06:34 PM

YEP.. those were "auto hubs" You dont want those.

Flygtenstein 04-07-2003 06:50 PM

If they are off an 85 4x4, then they should be manual, but would not work on your truck.

I am really interested by that auction as I thought 85 solid axles all came with manual hubs.

Those appear to be autos.

Interesting, very interesting.

Corey 04-07-2003 07:14 PM

Auto Hubs = Crap
 
Good article here.

Years they came on rigs.


It can be found on trucks from 1984-1988, and on 4Runners from 1984-1989. Do not confuse this with ADD. AUTO hubs are NOT similar to ADD. The AUTO hub has a clutch inside that will lock the hub when it receives forward movement of the axle. Since the axles are not always spinning with this design, you must come to a COMPLETE stop before shifting into 4WD. Under no circumstances can you shift into 4WD while in motion with the AUTO hubs.

The AUTO hub will unlock after 1/4 turn of the axle in reverse. This is the major flaw to the design. Often on the trail we need to back up in 4WD. Especially if the vehicle is stuck, and we're trying to free it by backing out of the hole it is in. With the AUTO hubs, once you shift into reverse and begin to turn the driveline the hubs will unlock, and you'll be left with only 2WD in reverse. The will eventually lock into 4WD again, but having them unlock on you at all is very troublesome.

AUTO hubs are notoriously unreliable. The springs inside the hub often break, and the hub will no longer engage. Repairing these hubs is VERY expensive, and replacing them with new AUTO hubs is out of the question. New AUTO hubs are priced in the hundreds of dollars)

The best thing you can do is to replace your AUTO hubs with manual locking hubs. You will increase the reliability of your 4WD system many times over by getting rid of the AUTO hubs, and you will gain the ability to shift-on-the-fly, assuming you're driving with the manual hubs LOCKED.


jx94148 04-08-2003 07:09 AM

The Seller says they "Worked great back then." He must have never had to back up in 4WD.

:pat:

toyota parts dude 04-08-2003 06:07 PM

85 auto hubs
 
they did have auto hubs on the 84 and 85 solid axle trucks. i got a wrecked 85 sr5 extended cab that i'm parting out and it has the same hubs listed on ebay. there the same as the 86 and up ifs 26 spline ones there just 30 spline instead.:D those thing suck that guy will be lucky if he even gets a bid.


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