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michalik_piotr 04-09-2012 01:00 PM

Lift is on, new wheels/tires (painted black), something is not right...(pics)
 
...I can't put my finger on it but it just doesn't look right. 265/70r17 Toyo ATs and it barely sits higher then on the 255/85r16 Open Country AT and thats with OME 2" lift. Tried 1.5" spacers and it looked terrible. Wonder if I just need either a more aggressive tire or a bigger tire (285/70 or 255/75) or both? Suggestions?

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...-42-02_495.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...-41-35_600.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...-40-15_994.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...-41-14_540.jpg

ya, I need to wash it...rims are just Plasti Diped, still need to put center caps back in but can't decide on color of BBS insert.

fish0281 04-09-2012 01:54 PM

My $0.02? You've got a lot of different shades of black going on and I think a good wash+wax might clear some of that up. I also think it might look better with the white out on the tires in order to break it up a bit more - or at least give the tires a good scrub so they're not hued with brown.

Bigger tires (or maybe just more aggressive AT's) will match the aggressive stance of the lift better, but I think it looks good like it is...

All in all, you've got a great looking rig!

Stance looks good though

michalik_piotr 04-09-2012 03:38 PM

Thanks.... I hear ya on the detail, it needs to be done. I'll post new pics after a good wash! And, maybe post up looking for suggestions on a good aggressive AT or a quiet hwy friendly MT in 265/70 and 285/70....

uniformFoxtrot 04-09-2012 04:15 PM

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Looks good fish0281 is right something with a little more of an aggressive tread design could help you achieve the look your after. Pro comp xtreame all terrain is a good design or good ol' bfg a/t's seems to be the most popular all terrain design just to name a couple.

michalik_piotr 04-09-2012 04:59 PM

Thanks...guess i'll try to relax till i get some new tires....

yotasavg 04-09-2012 05:03 PM

I honestly think you need more sidewall profile. e.i. a bigger tire. You went to a bigger tire but you also increased the wheel size, taking away from the larger profile.

michalik_piotr 04-09-2012 05:23 PM

Andrew, what tire size do you suggest??

yotasavg 04-09-2012 05:32 PM

I can't honestly say because I have little idea about 16" wheels, and even less about 17" wheels. I would suggest finding some sort of tire size calculator/converter and do a little playing around. I also agree with what was said earlier about a more aggressive tread. That alone would almost do exactly what you are looking for with the lift. BTW, I do really like those wheels on your 4runner. Do you understand what I was saying about canceling out the bigger profile with your bigger wheels? If not I would suggest learning a little bit more about how what the different numbers in the tire size mean. It is basically a ratio. But like I said I am limited in my knowledge because I have 15" wheels and my tires are always measured in inches which is much more obvious to understand.

michalik_piotr 04-09-2012 05:37 PM

Thanks Andrew, I've been looking at a lot of charts which tell you the height of the different sizes and playing around with different calculators.... I need to find out all the different sizes available, then choose a size, then AT or MT and then tire based on both looks and performance...and price... I wonder if going to a 285 would require re gearing?

enapa 04-09-2012 07:36 PM

Rims are too big and tires not aggressive enough. 16 inch is as big as you should go. 17+ is just too much rim in my opinion. I love my goodyear wrangler duratracs on 16's.

michalik_piotr 04-09-2012 07:52 PM

And here I thought 17s would look cool...plus I got stoked on the fact they were BBS! lol... well, I'm going to start off with a more aggressive and/or bigger tire....

jonnydclark 04-09-2012 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by yotasavg (Post 51900415)
I honestly think you need more sidewall profile. e.i. a bigger tire. You went to a bigger tire but you also increased the wheel size, taking away from the larger profile.

Plus 1. Side wall to rim ratio is less now than stock or so it appears. That combined with a little extra room above it makes the tires look weak.

I like everything else. I can't wait until my kids are big enough to get in without running boards so I can pull mine off and give it a lift.

madbomber08 04-09-2012 08:34 PM

I don't know what backspace or offset those rims have, but look at 285/70/17 tires. They aren't cheap though. Try searchtempest.com to see if you can find a used set of knobbies. That'll provide you with what's missing. Otherwise, nice looking truck.

EDIT: However, with the increase in tire size, you will probably have to to a little cutting/pounding around the wheel wells to get them to fit without rubbing. But I do think the end result will look good.

michalik_piotr 04-09-2012 10:44 PM

Thanks...I'm looking at the Duratracs now....you are right...not cheap.

I hope no fittment/rubbing issues... I already trimmed and pounded the pinch weld when running the 255/85r16 on just 1" BL so now with the OME should be fine.

The wheels are are 17x8 BBS RD (came on some Tundras in 20" and FJ's in 17") w/ 4.76 BS and +5mm offset.

I'm still not clear on offset vs. BS. I know the stock 16x7 5 stars I had on there as well as my old LC FJ80 16x8 both had 4.5 BS but I don't know what offset. I think they were 0 offset. So I think these are sitting 1/4" closer in? So almost the same?

So really, I don't know if these sit further in the same or further out!!!

wii_tarded 04-10-2012 01:38 AM

Try looking at these:

http://www.treaddepot.com/tire/73473.html

http://www.treaddepot.com/tire/357289298.html

These are what I've got in 33x12.50r15:
http://www.treaddepot.com/tire/312019027.html

quiet on the highway and I think they look almost as aggressive as a M/T.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...d/tires001.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...d/DSC01324.jpg

92 TOY 04-10-2012 01:44 AM

this is my wife's 4runner..... https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f105...runner-229005/ if I am reading everything correctly, these are the same size you have.

2003mikem 04-10-2012 06:10 AM

chrome mirrors and door handles

michalik_piotr 04-10-2012 07:34 AM

Thanks for the links! Those are good prices... the 4th gen runners were different, I mean their wheels had diff bs and/or offset i think b/c of that... i'm still considering just going to a 285 so i don't have regrets and am not dissapointed... worried about re gearing though.

MaK92-4RnR 04-10-2012 07:40 AM

you dont need to worry about regearing with a 3.4... Stockwell45 is running 33x12.50 KM2s on stock gearing and he has no complaints.

i vote go to a 33 or bigger with a 17" rim... Im going to be putting 17s on my truck, but im also going with 35s or 37s.

michalik_piotr 04-10-2012 07:44 AM

mak, what rims you going with? i'm excited to see it with 17s and tires... what made you go 17?


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