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i'd like to see how to add a switch for the power antenna. What kind of switch did you use and where did you mount it? Any help would be useful and I assume you just spliced the ant power wire(blue)?
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Interesting, my 2005 has only rear window antenna and nothing else. Would this mean that I can remove stucked motor antenna from my fender completly and put there a plug or something?
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Here's a photo of the actual switch. Model: 275-693. Price $2.99:
I don't see why you can't remove your stuck antenna motor for your front fender mounted antenna and just use the rear one instead. Although, you could replace the motor and use the fender antenna one day. In that case, I'd just install a switch as pictured above to cut the power that raises and lowers the antenna. At least that way, if you ever decide to use your fender antenna again one day, all you have to do is flip a switch...not install an all new motor.
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If you look on your passenger side glass cargo window, you should be able to see a bronze colored strip around the outside perimeter of the inside of the glass. (Should be able to feel it too as it's raised above the glass unless you've tinted over that window.) That's your rear antenna.
I don't see why you can't remove your stuck antenna motor for your front fender mounted antenna and just use the rear one instead. Although, you could replace the motor and use the fender antenna one day. In that case, I'd just install a switch as pictured above to cut the power that raises and lowers the antenna. At least that way, if you ever decide to use your fender antenna again one day, all you have to do is flip a switch...not install an all new motor.
I don't see why you can't remove your stuck antenna motor for your front fender mounted antenna and just use the rear one instead. Although, you could replace the motor and use the fender antenna one day. In that case, I'd just install a switch as pictured above to cut the power that raises and lowers the antenna. At least that way, if you ever decide to use your fender antenna again one day, all you have to do is flip a switch...not install an all new motor.
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Are they always Blue/White wires on any radios? What color is the antenna wire from the truck side? I know usually radio wires are short, so I can try to trace it.
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This diagram may help. Wire out of the stock HU is red/black: http://www.ncttora.com/fsm/1996/SIL/...emci/051aa.pdf
And if you ever need to match up colors when installing an aftermarket radio, here's a good reference: http://www.installdr.com/Harnesses/Toyota-Wiring.pdf
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Calling Rock Slide,
OK. So I spent the last few nights putting together the wiring harness for my Pioneer 4100. Have been reading up on the orange/white wire out of the Pioneer that controls dimming. I also read your writeup on the inclinometer and the problem you had with dimming. I then read somebody's dire warning that the orange wire would burn my truck to the ground
1. What wire did you tap to dim the head unit?
2. I bought the back up camera you recommended. I see it has 1 RCA jack for the camera and 1 red power plug in end. Am I right in assuming I have to cut off the power plug and seperate the power and ground? Did you connect the power plug from the camera to the remote output of the head unit?
3. Which wire did you splice the switch into to make the antenna go down?
Sorry for all the questions. trying to get this teed up to do this weekend.
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OK. So I spent the last few nights putting together the wiring harness for my Pioneer 4100. Have been reading up on the orange/white wire out of the Pioneer that controls dimming. I also read your writeup on the inclinometer and the problem you had with dimming. I then read somebody's dire warning that the orange wire would burn my truck to the ground
1. What wire did you tap to dim the head unit?
2. I bought the back up camera you recommended. I see it has 1 RCA jack for the camera and 1 red power plug in end. Am I right in assuming I have to cut off the power plug and seperate the power and ground? Did you connect the power plug from the camera to the remote output of the head unit?
3. Which wire did you splice the switch into to make the antenna go down?
Sorry for all the questions. trying to get this teed up to do this weekend.
Thanks
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I'd be interested to know how many of you who have done this mod typically listen to AM radio. That's my main station; the only time I flip over to FM is for Cowboys, Mavs, or Rangers games. I live in Fort Worth, but my station is in Dallas (about 30-40 miles away) and I usually have poorer reception when I'm around my house. My main concern is that if I do install an aftermarket HU, would I completely lose my ability to listen to my AM station?
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LK1-power antenna wire noted above-post #30 as blue-possibly blue white.
Held true for my Sony head unit-solid blue straight out of the Sony harness.
Interrupt the signal-(or power would be a better word) there-out of the head unit- run it to the "in" 12v volt side of 3 prong switch. Add a jumper wire (2nd prong of switch) back to the wiring harness and use that to feed power to the power antenna-the antenna side of the blue wire you just cut. 3rd prong is ground.
When the switch is left on-the head unit controls the antenna as normal-With the switch left off the antenna will stay retracted. Play with it a second before you stick it all back together.
I just did this and it works out great. As I travel to a fringe area or want really good AM reception (to sort of answer the gdutch question) and actually want the power antenna up I just flip the switch-otherwise the switch stays off and the antenna down in the fender.
Just hoping to save Rock Slide every question about Head units and power antenna switches.
I'm not touching the video stuff.
Held true for my Sony head unit-solid blue straight out of the Sony harness.
Interrupt the signal-(or power would be a better word) there-out of the head unit- run it to the "in" 12v volt side of 3 prong switch. Add a jumper wire (2nd prong of switch) back to the wiring harness and use that to feed power to the power antenna-the antenna side of the blue wire you just cut. 3rd prong is ground.
When the switch is left on-the head unit controls the antenna as normal-With the switch left off the antenna will stay retracted. Play with it a second before you stick it all back together.
I just did this and it works out great. As I travel to a fringe area or want really good AM reception (to sort of answer the gdutch question) and actually want the power antenna up I just flip the switch-otherwise the switch stays off and the antenna down in the fender.
Just hoping to save Rock Slide every question about Head units and power antenna switches.
I'm not touching the video stuff.
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Thanks Ron. Stupid question. Do I have to ground the antenna interupt switch? I assumed I could use a 2 prong switch and literally interupt just the power feed to the antenna.
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Calling Rock Slide,
OK. So I spent the last few nights putting together the wiring harness for my Pioneer 4100. Have been reading up on the orange/white wire out of the Pioneer that controls dimming. I also read your writeup on the inclinometer and the problem you had with dimming. I then read somebody's dire warning that the orange wire would burn my truck to the ground
1. What wire did you tap to dim the head unit?
2. I bought the back up camera you recommended. I see it has 1 RCA jack for the camera and 1 red power plug in end. Am I right in assuming I have to cut off the power plug and seperate the power and ground? Did you connect the power plug from the camera to the remote output of the head unit?
3. Which wire did you splice the switch into to make the antenna go down?
Sorry for all the questions. trying to get this teed up to do this weekend.
Thanks
OK. So I spent the last few nights putting together the wiring harness for my Pioneer 4100. Have been reading up on the orange/white wire out of the Pioneer that controls dimming. I also read your writeup on the inclinometer and the problem you had with dimming. I then read somebody's dire warning that the orange wire would burn my truck to the ground
1. What wire did you tap to dim the head unit?
2. I bought the back up camera you recommended. I see it has 1 RCA jack for the camera and 1 red power plug in end. Am I right in assuming I have to cut off the power plug and seperate the power and ground? Did you connect the power plug from the camera to the remote output of the head unit?
3. Which wire did you splice the switch into to make the antenna go down?
Sorry for all the questions. trying to get this teed up to do this weekend.
Thanks
To begin with, I still have not had time to play around w/ my Field Monitor wiring. Before I installed this Pioneer, the FM's display dimmed w/ my stock HU when I turned my headlights on. Worked great. After I installed the Pioneer HU, both the FM's display and HU's displayed dimmed when I turned my headlights on. However, during the day when my headlights are off, as soon as I shift into Drive, my HU's display dims as though my lights are on. If I depress the display on/off button on the FM and turn off its display, the HU comes back to full brightness.
This leads me to believe the new Pioneer draws much more current than my old stock HU did, thus both units cannot be at full brightness when the vehicle is under its heaviest load (i.e. while in drive). Of course, both units are at full brightness in every gear but drive.
So for the time being, I just turn my FM's display off during the day (so my HU will be at full brightness) and turn it back on at night. Granted I would like to have both units at full brightness during the day and still dim correctly when told to do so, but for now, I just deal with the way it is.
Oh and in case you need the online manual for the Pioneer 4100, here it is: http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchf...130avhp410.pdf
Ok, here's a pic of the orange/white wire off the pioneer HU:
I don't remember the exact wire I connected this org/wht wire too, but I do know I connected it to the corresponding orange colored wire on my metra wiring harness. My HU dims just as it should when I turn my lights on. Just make sure you tap the corresponding dimming wire on your aftermarket wiring harness and you'll be fine.
On the camera issue, yes, you have to cut the pwr plug to run ground and power separate. Should a video plug w/ it too.
I ran the wiring for the cameras as such: Power wire from a relay, went to the swith, and then 4 separate power wires out to 4 cameras (2 of which are not yet installed)
Using this switch:
Then ran the wiring as such:
For the power antenna up/down feature, I cut the blue/white wire off the pioneer wiring harness in half. I then soldered 1ft of new wiring to one cut end of the blue/wht wire and ran the other end to a 2pronge switch. I then took another piece of 1ft wire and ran it out from the 2nd pronge on the switch and soldered it to the other cut end of the blue/white wire. By flipping the button on the switch, current breaks, thus the antenna does not raise. Flip the button back and current is re-established, thus the power antenna goes up.
Here's the switch I purchased at Radio Shack to operate the power antenna: Model: 275-693. Price $2.99:
I'd be interested to know how many of you who have done this mod typically listen to AM radio. That's my main station; the only time I flip over to FM is for Cowboys, Mavs, or Rangers games. I live in Fort Worth, but my station is in Dallas (about 30-40 miles away) and I usually have poorer reception when I'm around my house. My main concern is that if I do install an aftermarket HU, would I completely lose my ability to listen to my AM station?
LK1-power antenna wire noted above-post #30 as blue-possibly blue white.
Held true for my Sony head unit-solid blue straight out of the Sony harness.
Interrupt the signal-(or power would be a better word) there-out of the head unit- run it to the "in" 12v volt side of 3 prong switch. Add a jumper wire (2nd prong of switch) back to the wiring harness and use that to feed power to the power antenna-the antenna side of the blue wire you just cut. 3rd prong is ground.
When the switch is left on-the head unit controls the antenna as normal-With the switch left off the antenna will stay retracted. Play with it a second before you stick it all back together.
I just did this and it works out great. As I travel to a fringe area or want really good AM reception (to sort of answer the gdutch question) and actually want the power antenna up I just flip the switch-otherwise the switch stays off and the antenna down in the fender.
Just hoping to save Rock Slide every question about Head units and power antenna switches.
I'm not touching the video stuff.
Held true for my Sony head unit-solid blue straight out of the Sony harness.
Interrupt the signal-(or power would be a better word) there-out of the head unit- run it to the "in" 12v volt side of 3 prong switch. Add a jumper wire (2nd prong of switch) back to the wiring harness and use that to feed power to the power antenna-the antenna side of the blue wire you just cut. 3rd prong is ground.
When the switch is left on-the head unit controls the antenna as normal-With the switch left off the antenna will stay retracted. Play with it a second before you stick it all back together.
I just did this and it works out great. As I travel to a fringe area or want really good AM reception (to sort of answer the gdutch question) and actually want the power antenna up I just flip the switch-otherwise the switch stays off and the antenna down in the fender.
Just hoping to save Rock Slide every question about Head units and power antenna switches.
I'm not touching the video stuff.