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Fitch Fuel Catalyst?
http://www.fitchfuelcatalyst.com/pro...uto/index.html
What do you think? |
I'm weary of this stuff, but I really don't know. I seen this on TRUCKS yesterday.
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What do I think? I think "gimmick". It sounds like it introduces a fuel system cleaner, stabilizer and octane boost into the system. Any claims for fuel efficiency gains by ANY gadget have been bunk, IMO, or the auto manufacturers would be using them to improve their fleet MPG ratings.
Run a decent brand of fuel and use a good fuel system cleaner every so often instead. I found through experimentation on my old 3.0 liter V6 that 89 octane helped a bit with ping and "seat-of-the-pants" performance but haven't noticed anything worth talking about with my 3.4L. |
$250 huh? Yeah, go for it... Lesse, they claim 5% mileage increase, so 16 * .05 = 0.6mpg. 16 gallon tank, so an extra 12 miles per tank.
Buy it. definitely buy it. When you get it, let us know how it works.... Why do people continually ask about this stuff? It's easy enough to do the math to figure on when the magical break-even point will be... if ever. There are HUNDREDS of posts on this forum ALONE talking about what a scam all this stuff is. I just don't get it. |
Originally Posted by midiwall
...There are HUNDREDS of posts on this forum ALONE talking about what a scam all this stuff is.
I just don't get it. |
Guys I hate to beat a 1.5 yr old dead thread-and this link does not offer an application for the 3.4V6 anyways... but there are skeptics everywhere -I am one of the biggest, but IMHO it always strikes a little more interest when gas prices rise and the prices of these gadgets gets even more affordable. There are some well respected publications that give at worst some grudging respect to this Fitch thing. I am not yet ready to say it is a scam or useless-and certainly at a lower price point the break even is significantly reduced.Not advocating it, I have not tried it and have no personal knowledge, I did see it covered on TV, and the inventor is not a scam artist but just a tinkerer like somewhat a few of us. The results are not dramatic, but there does seem to be some respect for MPG improvement. The actual product is what seems to me to be a inline filter along the fuel line. I welcome your thoughts, there may be a FJ owner that already has one of these for all I know....
http://www.levineautoparts.com/toyota1.html |
bunk !
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I say go for it, let us know.
I've seen these too, but always am able to find other places to spend money.
Originally Posted by Ron Helmuth
(Post 50742405)
Guys I hate to beat a 1.5 yr old dead thread-and this link does not offer an application for the 3.4V6 anyways... but there are skeptics everywhere -I am one of the biggest, but IMHO it always strikes a little more interest when gas prices rise and the prices of these gadgets gets even more affordable.
There are some well respected publications that give at worst some grudging respect to this Fitch thing. I am not yet ready to say it is a scam or useless-and certainly at a lower price point the break even is significantly reduced.Not advocating it, I have not tried it and have no personal knowledge, I did see it covered on TV, and the inventor is not a scam artist but just a tinkerer like somewhat a few of us. The results are not dramatic, but there does seem to be some respect for MPG improvement. The actual product is what seems to me to be a inline filter along the fuel line. I welcome your thoughts, there may be a FJ owner that already has one of these for all I know.... http://www.levineautoparts.com/toyota1.html I find myself going to threads, and if I see a post like yours, I usually wont even read it because it's a pain on the eyes. |
here, just give this a read.
the basic story is: your car and the gas you are sticking in it are already as efficient they are going to be without strapping real hardware on it like a blower or turbo, aerodynamics, or high compression pistons and new ignition computer. in other words thousands of dollars of real mods, not some fuel tank pill http://www.fuelsaving.info/index.htm |
thanks that is a good link
thanks Edzo that is a good link for a read.
and thanks b.miller 123 for constructive posting protocol. Yes, I ramble. I don't see Fitch claiming 10-15% improvement for example, so at least they do not fit the author's criteria. I will accept that I have not seen enough evidence-for instance the A-B-A test he recommends. It's not something I would try, or recommend to others, but with as much driving as some of us on this forum are doing, even a 3-5% improvement could only help. As stated, there is no fitment for the Runners anyways. Appreciate the discussion. Thanks all of you. |
Originally Posted by edzo
(Post 50763687)
here, just give this a read.
the basic story is: your car and the gas you are sticking in it are already as efficient they are going to be without strapping real hardware on it like a blower or turbo, aerodynamics, or high compression pistons and new ignition computer. in other words thousands of dollars of real mods, not some fuel tank pill http://www.fuelsaving.info/index.htm It seems like pretty good info, maybe it should be a sticky
Originally Posted by Ron Helmuth
(Post 50763696)
thanks Edzo that is a good link for a read.
and thanks b.miller 123 for constructive posting protocol. Yes, I ramble. I don't see Fitch claiming 10-15% improvement for example, so at least they do not fit the author's criteria. I will accept that I have not seen enough evidence-for instance the A-B-A test he recommends. It's not something I would try, or recommend to others, but with as much driving as some of us on this forum are doing, even a 3-5% improvement could only help. As stated, there is no fitment for the Runners anyways. Appreciate the discussion. Thanks all of you. I agree that even anything as small as 3-5% is better than nothing, esp if you drive alot. I would still have to do the math to figure out if it would be worth the $$$, at least in my lifetime. As much as I hate stupid gizmos and crap, it seems like this is a few steps above the usual crap that gets marketed (like the "turbonator" little things for the intake tube, or the $10 "chip"s that you can get on eBay, which are actually 10c resistors from radio-shack, or magnets that align the fuel molecules for better combustion) |
Oh, and one other thought:
I think that if there was a "magic pill" that could easily improve your gas mileage, by a large amount. It would probably be all over the news. Just like: If there was really a magic pill that could make every guy's manhood 3-4 inches longer, it would probably be on the front page of every single news paper in the world, not in the back pages of Maxim, FHM or Hustler. |
I have ran these in my snowmobile and my Harley, and yes ther was a signifacant and noticeable difference in consumption.
I think that if there was a "magic pill" that could easily improve your gas mileage, by a large amount. It would probably be all over the news. Maybe gas is a profit center for the Govt and they keep the media from blowing it up on purpose. Afterall, we have to keep our dependance on oil. It makes the us economy as strong as it is. |
I have ran these in my snowmobile and my Harley, and yes ther was a signifacant and noticeable difference in consumption. I love how the true believers always bring up government conspiracies or corporate ill will when it comes to these magic pills. Sure beats having to explain the chemistry or prove that it works. This is like the magic 100 mpg carburetor that has somehow been suppressed. I call shenanigans! MadCityRich '02 4Runner |
Originally Posted by MadCityRich
(Post 50764582)
Whatever might have changed your consumption, it's not the Fitch catalyzer. If a simple catalyst could be used to reform hydrocarbons at room temperature or below it would be the news of the decade. Refineries would be using them in their own processes. Instead, they use large amounts of heat to refine their products. There might be some catalytic reaction involved, but it's not without the presence of heat.
I love how the true believers always bring up government conspiracies or corporate ill will when it comes to these magic pills. Sure beats having to explain the chemistry or prove that it works. This is like the magic 100 mpg carburetor that has somehow been suppressed. I call shenanigans! MadCityRich '02 4Runner maybe they should do an episode with all of the "mainstream" gadgets that are being marketed to the consumer, not the crap that is peddled on the inter-web |
the 100mpg carb is true !
you need a special motor, and you need to get used to accelerating from 0 to 20mph in 15 minutes...then staying at 20mph until empty also weight has to be under 120lbs and you need an aerodynamic shell with skinny 140psi tires, on a track impractical |
Originally Posted by edzo
(Post 50764785)
the 100mpg carb is true !
you need a special motor, and you need to get used to accelerating from 0 to 20mph in 15 minutes...then staying at 20mph until empty also weight has to be under 120lbs and you need an aerodynamic shell with skinny 140psi tires, on a track impractical |
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