Explain this lift - 4Runner with 6" susp, 3" body
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Explain this lift - 4Runner with 6" susp, 3" body
Guys I am puzzled at this lift, this is a 99 4runner with a
Trailmaster 6 inch suspension lift i guessing this is the
one for the Tacoma?, WITH IFS if my eyes
are seeing this correct I could be wrong and get flamed,
but did he have to get a leaf spring conversion, and cut the
crossmember for this or WHAT, i dont understand this fully?
PLEASE SHED LIGHT GUYS
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2086627
Trailmaster 6 inch suspension lift i guessing this is the
one for the Tacoma?, WITH IFS if my eyes
are seeing this correct I could be wrong and get flamed,
but did he have to get a leaf spring conversion, and cut the
crossmember for this or WHAT, i dont understand this fully?
PLEASE SHED LIGHT GUYS
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2086627
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Wow... that looks silly.
Yeup, it's IFS, you can see the short shafts in the first pic. (click)
The front lift is coming from the second crossmember being bolted under the first. I guess that's the Trailmaster lift (dunno). It maintains reasonable CV angles, but the goofy thing about it is that you haven't gained any ground clearance from it.
Lookit the angle of the front driveshaft though... I hope that ain't a stock driveline:
He needs real tires on that thing... He talks about putting 39's on it, I sure hope he understands the concept of regearing.
I dunno... "ewwww" comes to mind overall. I wonder if it's ever been dirty...
Yeup, it's IFS, you can see the short shafts in the first pic. (click)
The front lift is coming from the second crossmember being bolted under the first. I guess that's the Trailmaster lift (dunno). It maintains reasonable CV angles, but the goofy thing about it is that you haven't gained any ground clearance from it.
Lookit the angle of the front driveshaft though... I hope that ain't a stock driveline:
He needs real tires on that thing... He talks about putting 39's on it, I sure hope he understands the concept of regearing.
I dunno... "ewwww" comes to mind overall. I wonder if it's ever been dirty...
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I can't wait to see it after he get's the Lambo door hinges installed! That rig has some potential but right now...It's fugly IMO.
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Yup, it's a Hawaiian thing. Somebody from Hawaii posted some really tall runners and what they pretty much did was either mod a tacoma lift to fit or did other mods to jack the trucks way up high. Although some rock/lava crawl out there, I believe their trucks are more show than anything (according to some of the threads I've seen).
To each his own but I thought some of them looked pretty cool. The thread got flamed like crazy on this board about uselessness but for someone that comes from an environment where show is not a bad thing, it was fine for me. Here's a couple of the threads:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/nice-high-3rd-gen-67134/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/various-toy-pics-67132/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/more-toys-67133/
To each his own but I thought some of them looked pretty cool. The thread got flamed like crazy on this board about uselessness but for someone that comes from an environment where show is not a bad thing, it was fine for me. Here's a couple of the threads:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/nice-high-3rd-gen-67134/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/various-toy-pics-67132/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/more-toys-67133/
Last edited by ebelen1; 02-04-2006 at 08:38 AM.
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Hey Slick, I'll inform you on this lift since I've done it myself to my truck
These lifts are called "drop bracket" type lifts. They are what all the Chevy's, Ford's and other non straight-axle trucks use to lift up the IFS.
They drop the front differentail down to keep the CV angles at a stock position, as well as the rack and pinion and other suspension parts.
I personally really like my trailmaster lift. I've heard bad things about it, but, its worked awesome for me. I feel you get the best of both worlds:
The geometry o fthe suspension is at stock position, so I am getting the most uptravel and downtravel that is possible for the Toyota IFS. I don't have any CV angle issues, and the ride is smooth. People say its useless...but, I really dont agree. Traveling through baja were I would much rather have a higher rig than a stock height one. Plus I can run coilovers with this setup.
One thing that I am going to do is take off my body lift as it is pointless and my truck is too high anyways.
In retrospect I dont regret putting my Trailmaster on at all. I got it for $300 used. It was cut off a Tacoma that had gone SAS. With the upgraded struts and OME shocks I feel like its really great and flexy. I also installed the topplates of the struts upsidown to gain another inch of downtravel and I think it worked well..
The problem with these lifts on 4runners is the rear. They give the Tacomas blocks and an add a leaf. But, the 4runners use coils so you have to figure something else out. The rear isin't made for much more than 4" of lift so now Im battling with that.
Since I love working on my truck though, its just another learning experience and another chance to try something new.
I have to post up some articulation pictures. With all 4 wheels on the ground I get 11" between top of tire to fender. If I flex out the front I get 16" from top of tire to fender. So that's 5" of downtravel which I didn't know was possible. I'll post some pictures.
These lifts are called "drop bracket" type lifts. They are what all the Chevy's, Ford's and other non straight-axle trucks use to lift up the IFS.
They drop the front differentail down to keep the CV angles at a stock position, as well as the rack and pinion and other suspension parts.
I personally really like my trailmaster lift. I've heard bad things about it, but, its worked awesome for me. I feel you get the best of both worlds:
The geometry o fthe suspension is at stock position, so I am getting the most uptravel and downtravel that is possible for the Toyota IFS. I don't have any CV angle issues, and the ride is smooth. People say its useless...but, I really dont agree. Traveling through baja were I would much rather have a higher rig than a stock height one. Plus I can run coilovers with this setup.
One thing that I am going to do is take off my body lift as it is pointless and my truck is too high anyways.
In retrospect I dont regret putting my Trailmaster on at all. I got it for $300 used. It was cut off a Tacoma that had gone SAS. With the upgraded struts and OME shocks I feel like its really great and flexy. I also installed the topplates of the struts upsidown to gain another inch of downtravel and I think it worked well..
The problem with these lifts on 4runners is the rear. They give the Tacomas blocks and an add a leaf. But, the 4runners use coils so you have to figure something else out. The rear isin't made for much more than 4" of lift so now Im battling with that.
Since I love working on my truck though, its just another learning experience and another chance to try something new.
I have to post up some articulation pictures. With all 4 wheels on the ground I get 11" between top of tire to fender. If I flex out the front I get 16" from top of tire to fender. So that's 5" of downtravel which I didn't know was possible. I'll post some pictures.
Last edited by BajaRunner; 02-04-2006 at 10:09 AM.
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That is my old runner.
The lift was total rubbish- the struts blew out all the time.
It was good enough for the minor off roading we have here, but it was mostly just for show- I did end up gearing it and running 44's, but only after putting in the (even worse) 10 inch whiplash lift.
I sold it to some guy who eventually switched it out for a strait axle and I see it around some times.
I definitely do not recommend this lift if you're doing any type of off roading.
The lift was total rubbish- the struts blew out all the time.
It was good enough for the minor off roading we have here, but it was mostly just for show- I did end up gearing it and running 44's, but only after putting in the (even worse) 10 inch whiplash lift.
I sold it to some guy who eventually switched it out for a strait axle and I see it around some times.
I definitely do not recommend this lift if you're doing any type of off roading.
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I have had this 4runner for about one year. I have a 15 inch Orion H2 Sub being pushed by an Orion 2500D. Right now it sits on a six inch trailmaster lift and 3 inch body. Every one knows trailmaster is weak, so I plan on removing the current suspension lift and replacing it with a 10" whiplash. I also plan on putting it on larger tires, I am looking at the Super Swamper Iroks right now, 39x13.50or20. The thing get AEM intake and a whitelightning chip. I wanna put a superchareger in it if I can find one cheap. I also have Lambo door hinges but I haven't installed them yet. I hope to do most of the work in the coming months. When I have more photos I will make this space nicer. Till den, latas.
Andreas
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