sravbrown

Ok so I will start out by saying that I understand that OEM is always the best but I'm just trying to get a grip on my options. Got an 01 Tacoma 4wd with the 3.4, all stock under the hood leveling kit and 285s, I'm about to be needing a clutch and I would rather replace with a clutch a bit more performance the truck isn't a daily, more of a going out on Friday night kinda rig. Anybody had any luck with a 100 dollar eBay clutch like an XTR or Kupp? Thanks

Malcolm99

I wouldn't put an aftermarket clutch in unless it was a company that is tried and tested due to the amount of work involved to change it, I would change the pressure plate, TO bearing aswell and have the flywheel machined. I use a Bully 6 puck sprung clutch in my car and have used ACT as well, Centreforce sucks for high torque so go for ACT since your in USA as they are top notch and stand behind there products(cancel that no pressure plate available) so check these out https://www.marlincrawler.com/clutch/heavy-duty you can chose different stage$ of clamping pressures. Don't forget to make sure your flywheel is machined properly, if there is a step, both surfaces must have the same amount of material removed. This is not a spot you want to skimp out on, most spend $500 on parts alone so it lasts another 250,000km+

MudHippy

I've never installed a new clutch without a new flywheel. You're not saving that much money, if any, having it machined. Not to mention the peace of mind you'll be losing too.

The thing with AISIN(OEM) is they always keep improving their designs. The clutch kit you get from them now is likely significantly better than the one the factory put in. And, if you don't buy AISIN parts from Toyota, their prices are very reasonable. Considering the level of quality...they're dirt cheap IMO.

TheDurk

This was my choice on both counts when I did my 4Runner in 2013. I got my AISIN clutch kit on Amazon for a little over $200 and a new flywheel from NAPA (great price). Flywheel was not OEM but looked identical to old factory flywheel. Still shifting beautifully after 2.5 years.

Go here: http://partcat.com/aisin to get your AISIN part number and then check prices on Amazon, RockAuto or your supplier of choice.

wyoming9

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If I was doing a new Clutch no Doubt I would go with the one offered by Marlin Crawler.

I have done the Cheap China built Clutch once It was all I could get local.I needed to use the Truck Monday morning

It was in for about a month till I could put a real clutch in that was about 75,000 miles ago when I installed the Luk Clutch kit still going strong

I have a few of those and 1 Aisin Clutch so all my stuff is on the new side.

MudHippy

Ideally you want Marlin for the HD AISIN pressure plate. And anyone else(besides Toyota) for the AISIN clutch disk, KOYO or Nachi pilot and TO bearings.

I say that because I have to shy away from recommending SECO disks. The only one I've ran exploded on me with less than 1000 miles on it. Could have been a fluke. I do know it wasn't installation error, and it "should" have been broke in by that point. And I know one more thing...I can't manage to destroy AISIN disks with even FAR rougher treatment. I was WAY far from abusing the SECO at the time it failed. I've beat on AISIN disks 10x harder for 100x longer without issues.

wyoming9

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Did you get your Seco disc replaced under warranty if it failed so fast??

Just define exploded ??

I have twisted the centers out of the discs with engines of far more horse power in my misguided youth I would not call that exploded .

To be honest yours is the first failure I have heard about

MudHippy

I should say "half" exploded. The friction material on one side of the disc rapidly disintegrated. The other side held together, and actually got me home. So it wasn't really "totally" destroyed.

I've still got it. I'll post up some pics here in a minute.

The good.


The bad.

wyoming9

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Bad day at the factory that day for sure

MudHippy

Question : "Can you drive with half a clutch?"

Answer : Apparently so. For ~25 miles at least. But I'd also noticed pretty quickly I was having some kind of major clutch issue. And had sense enough to start taking it majorly easy on it pretty much immediately. Hoping it was going to make it home...under its own power. Which it did...thankfully. I didn't push my luck further than that though.

TacomaJunkiey1968

Dear SravBrown,
Good Luck in picking a clutch.
My Shannon and I have the same rig as you, but our little Tacoma is just a tad bit older. It is a 1999. I have done extensive research on ideal clutch manufacturers anticipating our clutch would start slipping since our rig now has over 162,000 miles on it. We have owned it for the past eleven years. I fully expected to be replacing its clutch by now because of the mileage. The clutch in it has not begun to start slipping yet in any conditions, but I have still done the research. Part of this is due to the fact that this rig has been adult driven, and has not been used in anything by any stretch of the imagination wild off road.
Tacoma Junkies like the Aisin if a stock rig is going to be used mainly for light off road and hauling. They like the Marlin Crawler and the Centerforce if the rig is going to be used in performance applications or technical off road applications. The feelings on the LUK and the Sachs are mixed. You will find some people who have had good luck with them, and some who have not. They are an aftermarket OEM replacement.

MudHippy

Dear so-and-so
"Hey...look at me. I think I know a bunch of stuff because I read it on the internet so it must be true. But I have no actual real world experience to draw from."

Extensive research...HAH! That's funny.

Good for you though. But you're not even close. Your clutch has lasted as long as it has because it was made by AISIN. People that try and "upgrade" from stock when they have a stock engine are fools just looking for an ego boost(unless doing so for longevity purposes ONLY). You're not going to "overpower" the stock clutch regardless of how you use it, how many mods you have, or how big your tires are. Those things are meaningless. Buy a penis implant instead. You'll get more use out of it.

Adult driven? Holier than thou much?!

Aftermarket OEM replacement? No...I don't think so. They are NOT the same thing.

BTW, your clutch has 50-100K left on it easy. Plenty of time to do some more research while you wait for it to start slipping.

2 posts and comes in here talking like some kind of expert on the subject. Late model driving...you got one thing right. Tacomas are JUNKY!!!

AISIN RULES!!!

TacomaJunkiey1968

MudHappy,
If Tacomas are so junky, then what are you doing on this forum. Sorry you did not like my response.

wyoming9

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Reminds me of someone else !!

Technical Off Road Applications are these graded on difficulty ??

anyone can burn up any clutch in a short period of time .Depends on your Criterion for adults I know some 35 year old children and some 16 year old adults

just let a idiot borrow your vehicle to run to the store 5 miles away.

We can all get any of the name brand clutches where the inspector was off getting a doughnut

So Toyota had a minor issue with the frame supplier does that mean we all should never buy or drive Toyota`s

ThorInc

Marlin Crawler sell a damn good customized clutch kit, I run the 1200lb one. Tows very well with their fly wheel combo.

wyoming9

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If I needed a new one that would most likely be my choice !!

I have always had great Customer service from them as well