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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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Todd, there is a BJ's and Sam's pretty close by. Do I need memberships there? Think they are open on Friday?
Never heard of BJs...well the store at least

Sam's you can go there without a membership, but they charge you I believe 15% extra (now don't quote me on this, but I rember this being the case two years ago).
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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Todd, there is a BJ's and Sam's pretty close by. Do I need memberships there? Think they are open on Friday?
Yup, they'll be there on friday. (I work for BJ's in Dedham MA in the "tire service center").
You do need a membership though.
Mounting and ballancing should run you about $40 with membership for all 4 tires.
I think Mohamed is right, there's probably a 15% surcharge for non-members.
You'd have to get a day pass to do it that way.
If you have them do the work, ask for them to clamp the rim from the outside edge instead of inside the rim. That'll save some scratch marks if you're worried about it.
The bead will seat just fine like that (I do it all the time when at work) and they can unclamp it once the tire begins to fill with air.

Hope this helps,
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 03:58 PM
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1) Go to Firestone.

2) DON'T mention tirerack. You can do better than a pricematch.

Ask for a discount. Do it over the phone if you get sweaty.

Smile when you ask, they can sense fear.

I went from $140/tire to $114.75/tire. No shipping/handling. Much better than Tirerack's $123...plus lifetime balance, etc.

Good Luck!

-Leaf
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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I just noticed, why in the world would Japan make and export Bridgestone tires?
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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Yes i did mean the BFG A/T KOs ---at sears for $109. 31x10.50-15 I looked at the tire rack the REVOs are $123.00 which comes to $492.00 plus s/h which adds another $61.00 total $553.00 or $436.00 for the bfgs, a differance of $117.00 . I could go buy another BFG for a spare and still have a couple bucks left over. Thats the differance.
I think the 50k tread wear warranty on the Revos makes up the $117+ price diff;the BFGs have no warranty,you wear them out soon then you pay full price for the next set.
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 08:25 PM
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I do think BFGs look better....havnt had any experience with REVOs but I guess it's all personal preferences. I am very happy with my BFGs..good traction and good AT tire. Rescently went up to ski pass and i could not get my tires to spin on snowy ground. I would have done a 180 with my old stock tires.




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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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Well, $60, one stem cap missing, one dirty mat, 4 greasy rims, and 9 over-torqued lug nuts later the tires are on!

Todd, you might help me with this. The guys at the tire center put on a total of 28 counter-weights on my wheels. Keep in mind, I only have 4 wheels

The worst offender is the rear right tire having 11 weight on it alone, scattered on the front and the backside of the rim, weighting in total OVER half a pound!

Right before I paid I went and inspected what they did, finding this mess. I asked the guy why are there so many weights, and his response was because it is "a big tire".

I'll post some pics later tonight, as it looks like they just slapped weights on there to counteract other weights, instead of removing the other ones. From what it sounds, do you think those guys know anything about balancing tires?
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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I'll post some pics later tonight, as it looks like they just slapped weights on there to counteract other weights, instead of removing the other ones. From what it sounds, do you think those guys know anything about balancing tires?
NO WAY!!! That is way too much weight. If that's the case, what they should have done is rotate the tire around. If it still comes out way too much, then you need a another new tire. The thing with balancing is, your supposed to take off all the weight before you put the tire on the spinner. The machine stops after spinning the tire and then you spin the tire with you hand until the LED turns red and that's where it tells you a weight is need.

Yes I have balanced tires before in class (only twice) and the first time I did it, we had to remove the tire completely off and put it back in in an MR2. That was a bitch to take off and put on that low profile tire. But the easy part was balancing, it tells you exactly where you need to put it and it is usually like a few ounzes off, considering you have the stock rim even, I don't see why there should be so much weight as you described. Time to go somewhere else
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 02:32 PM
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Do they have a Hunter 9000 balancing machine?
Did they used the Hawke (spelling might be off) adaptor when they balance the wheel and tire.
If no to either question, it's wasn't done right. Take it to a shop which has/use and have people who know how to use both.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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Is it just me or are those weights about to fall out?



Here are both sides of the same rim, just flipped along the vertical axis. As you can see the weights are on opposite sides. This just doesn't seem right.



And yes, I see plenty of old weights still on the rims. Could of been reused? They removed some old weights though.

But it does ride very good, for now.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 03:10 PM
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Hey check out gadget @ gadgetonline.com he goes over the hunter balancer very well.It will give you a little better idea of what RCHAVIS is talking about.You are right about those weights they will fly off.They are not the right weights.You might want to have someone else look at that.If you were a little closer i would help you out.We have a hunter 9000 a work.Nice machine.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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I got me a set of revo's three weeks ago and i will never put another tire on my truck. They are the best tire I have ever put on a vehicle.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 04:48 PM
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Damn, that sucks.
Sorry to hear about your bad experience.
At the shop where I work, if it reads over 6 ounces (for a truck tire) it's time to remount the tire.
They also used the wrong weights on your wheels.
Those are the standard steel wheel weights, not the coated version for alloys.
(it's an "orange" weight - not that color, but that's the color code for that style of weight).
Yes, all the old weights should have been taken off.
How far away are you from me?
I'd redo the entire thing for you (FREE!) if you could make it to the shop.
May not be worth the drive though.
If there are weights on opposite parts of the wheel (same side) then there is extranious (sp) weight on the rim.
I'd take it back to them - or another BJ's (with your reciept) and make them remount and rebalance at least that one tire.
I'm suprized about the overtorqued lugs.
The torque sticks we use don't tighten them all the way to that torque, we then drop the vehicle and finish with a torque wrench to make sure they are all even.
Anything I left out?
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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Thanks Todd, but I'm pretty far. The place that got them mounted was a local tire place, not BJ. I assumed that if they specialize in tires only they would do a good job. :pat: I'm sure I will be able to get the balancing part back, $8 x 4, but that means spending more time somewhere else.

Btw, ALL my old weights were coated, the new ones are not. What is the purpose of coated?
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 05:57 AM
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Originally posted by 4RUNR

Btw, ALL my old weights were coated, the new ones are not. What is the purpose of coated?
If you have two different metals in contact with one another, the difference between the two will cause one to corrode.

Kind of like how people put a sacrificial piece of metal in the radiator so the radiator doesn't corrode? Like that.

If your wheels are painted, it shouldn't be a problem.

I saw someone's old mag racing wheels and the rim was corroded where the weights were.
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 06:58 AM
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Got all the $60 back. The guy of course shook his head in denial at the fact that they are lug-centric rims, that the weights were uncoated, that there are 28 instead of 7 as before. And he told me they could not get the old ones off because they were glued on When I showed him the 2 falling off weights he quietly went in and got the refund.

Probably will take it to a local Toyota, they have a Hunter 9700 and a Haweka adapter.
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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Just measured, it got 1" ground clearance increase with the new tires Exactly 12" under the gas tank skid plate.
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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I love the Revos on my 90. One thing I noticed was that they are not as true round as the Michelins I had before. This will throw off the balance a bit and the shops will add weight to compensate. If the tires are trued and balanced on the car, you might not need ANY weight at all.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 01:25 PM
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I just called the local bridgestone/firestone dealer and they quoted me over $1000 cdn for 31x10.5r15s mounted and balanced. i said thank you and hung up.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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...he told me they could not get the old ones off because they were glued on When I showed him the 2 falling off weights he quietly went in and got the refund.
Glued on?
Ya right.
There is a sticky-back version that's used for the alloys without a "lip" on the rim, but those you can still get off easily with a dull knife.

Probably will take it to a local Toyota, they have a Hunter 9700 and a Haweka adapter
That will probably be the best $$ spent on balancing.
If they find any tires that take a larger amount of weight, see if they will rotate the tire on the rim for you.
Good luck!
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