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Old 08-16-2013, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by captainslow
so then what do you think is better for 300hp in a 4x4? the 96+ 150f input shaft or the R154? I think to me highway miles is a little better than low burnouts... but hey... who doesn't want to smoke all 4 tires at once ken block style!
I think for a truck you need the lower 1st gear, and really need the lower reverse at times. I've smoked the clutch a few times offroad getting it moving on a hill. 5th gear is awesome from the R154 though.

IIRC you can swap the 5th gears onto the R150...

And I would highly discourage any attempt at a 4WD burnout, on pavement at least
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maybe I can help out with the trans issue I have looked into it alot.
the older r150 has way too short of an input shaft as we know to use with a r154 bellhousing.
the newer r150 has one that is a hair shorter than the r154 but will work, the main problem is the transfer case drops on the wrong side for those with older vehicles, so you would have to get some kind of adapter or is it possible to bolt the older transfer case on I am not sure.
you can also swap the r150 output stuff onto th r154 trans instead of the other way around, but you keep the r154 first gear which some may like but for crawling I think you want the other way around that was mentioned. I would keep the r154 first cause of the extra power.

what is more interesting than all of that, is on ebay if you search 1jz and r150, there is a company in thailand that makes 2 types of bellhousing one for an r154 and one for a r150 that seems to look much shorter than other one. I have been thinking if one were to just get the custom r150 bellhousing, you could probably bolt up the older r150 with the shorter shaft and call it a day and not have to deal with the drop on the wrong side, I mean you have to buy an expensive bellhousing anyways why not get the custom one right? is my thinking off here. nice work so far btw.

Also for mounts I have a theory on trying some 2jz > cressida mounts that are made by various people.
I figure if a 5m from a supra bolts in where a 22r is in a pickup, and a 2jz with these aftermarket mounts bolt in a 2jz where a 5m was in the cressida (cressida mounts and mk2 supra mounts are the same), then its got to be pretty close to bolt in, and if you get your mounts from Xcessive manufacturing, they are slotted for some extra wiggle room.
http://www.xcessivemanufacturing.com...step=4&pid=248
I haven't tried it yet but that is how I plan on bolting my 2jzge into my 85 pickup where my 22r was, and I think I can do it with these mounts and leave the trans in the stock spot. I was going to do custom mounts before I came up with this and would be nice to have a bolt in option.

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Your line of thinking on the transmission is on the right track BUT consider this.. buy the 1jz with a r154 , keep bellhousing and sell the transmission, take that money then to buy 5vz R150 and adapt a t-case

Motor mount idea might work , only one way to find out.
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Make a custom short bellhouse like I did and you can use the stock R150F. You than just need a more powerfull clutch cause the push type clutch from the R150F (or 7M-GE) is not nearly as strong as the pull type clutch.
Smoked my new stock toyota 7M-GE clutch quite fast.

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maybe I can help out with the trans issue I have looked into it alot.
the older r150 has way too short of an input shaft as we know to use with a r154 bellhousing.
the newer r150 has one that is a hair shorter than the r154 but will work, the main problem is the transfer case drops on the wrong side for those with older vehicles, so you would have to get some kind of adapter or is it possible to bolt the older transfer case on I am not sure.
you can also swap the r150 output stuff onto th r154 trans instead of the other way around, but you keep the r154 first gear which some may like but for crawling I think you want the other way around that was mentioned. I would keep the r154 first cause of the extra power.

what is more interesting than all of that, is on ebay if you search 1jz and r150, there is a company in thailand that makes 2 types of bellhousing one for an r154 and one for a r150 that seems to look much shorter than other one. I have been thinking if one were to just get the custom r150 bellhousing, you could probably bolt up the older r150 with the shorter shaft and call it a day and not have to deal with the drop on the wrong side, I mean you have to buy an expensive bellhousing anyways why not get the custom one right? is my thinking off here. nice work so far btw.

Also for mounts I have a theory on trying some 2jz > cressida mounts that are made by various people.
I figure if a 5m from a supra bolts in where a 22r is in a pickup, and a 2jz with these aftermarket mounts bolt in a 2jz where a 5m was in the cressida (cressida mounts and mk2 supra mounts are the same), then its got to be pretty close to bolt in, and if you get your mounts from Xcessive manufacturing, they are slotted for some extra wiggle room.
http://www.xcessivemanufacturing.com...step=4&pid=248
I haven't tried it yet but that is how I plan on bolting my 2jzge into my 85 pickup where my 22r was, and I think I can do it with these mounts and leave the trans in the stock spot. I was going to do custom mounts before I came up with this and would be nice to have a bolt in option.
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So they mounts came in from Xcessive that 85 Hilux had mentioned.....But! they did not wanna work with the Bombproof mounts from Trail Gear. Although it was very close I could not swing the one mount down on the frame enough to catch it. I should of taking a picture just so yall could see how close it was to fitting but would not make it. So while I was looking at it figuring out what I was gonna cut and weld to make it work I figured I could atleast try the stock mounts. So I pulled the metal skirt off that goes over the stock rubber mounts. Grounded the metal pin off. Picked the motor back up just a little. And what do you know those stock mounts bolted to the frame with that motor and those mounts like they were made for each other.
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Originally Posted by 8784 runner


So they mounts came in from Xcessive that 85 Hilux had mentioned.....But! they did not wanna work with the Bombproof mounts from Trail Gear. Although it was very close I could not swing the one mount down on the frame enough to catch it. I should of taking a picture just so yall could see how close it was to fitting but would not make it. So while I was looking at it figuring out what I was gonna cut and weld to make it work I figured I could atleast try the stock mounts. So I pulled the metal skirt off that goes over the stock rubber mounts. Grounded the metal pin off. Picked the motor back up just a little. And what do you know those stock mounts bolted to the frame with that motor and those mounts like they were made for each other.
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Nice one!!!!! thanks for testing my theory out I knew it should have worked but there are always complications but just bolting up to the stock mounts is huge!!! and it looks like its placed in there perfectly.
how did the transfer case mount line up with this, is it also where it used to be or did it move due to the bellhousing. thanks for the pictures I had literally been playing around with that mount setup in my head for a few months now and it all came down to how similar the mk2 supra and cressida mounts are but now this confirms they are actually the same like I thought.

any pics of the mounts would be awesome. keep up the good work

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Lol your jumping the gun just a little bit. I simply dropped the motor in to see if a body lift was gonna be needed before I started running the brake and fuel lines. Today or this weekend I'm gonna see if the hood clears and put just the bellhousing up to see if it clears the firewall. I can't put the link but there is a 2nd gen runner with a 1j using the same mounts. His truck was a 3.0 so he did half to modify them a little bit.
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I see just the motor is in, I guess I did jump the gun a bit =).
still it looks well placed in there in relation to the front and firewall.
I don't think you need any of the body lift stuff with the solid axle and the rear sump oil pan should help things, but seems like you will find out soon enough whats needed.
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I think this is why your other mounts didn't work.
found this tip under the 1uz to cressida mount which is also interesting for the same reason one could probably also bolt in a 1uz also.

http://www.xcessivemanufacturing.com...?pid=59&step=2
9. When placing the engine in the car, it’s usually easier to leave the motor mounts in the car loose so they can be tipped or slid allowing the mounting stud to align with your new motor brackets and allowing them to center up easier on the cross member when the engine is set. The easiest way is to hang the motor mounts on the new motor brackets with the one top bolt and then lower the engine down to the cross member. DO NOT have the mounts bolted solid to the cross member until the motor is sitting all the way in the car.
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Nope, I tried pretty much anything I could think of. Cause it was almost a matter of pulling it out and doing some cutting and welding to make them work. The mounts came with a set of directions kinda tell you a bunch of common sence stuff. The one question I had that it did answer is that on the passenger side of the vvti block. Thiers is 3 different mounting points for a mount. The directions said to put mine on the set furthest to the front I could. I would like to leave the motor in but I'm sure at some point ill half to pull it out when I do. Ill try the other mounts again just to be 100% they don't work. I did get the rear disc brakes put on my other axle for it tonight to ill get some pics up of that.........Also the yotatech app for smatphones, Rocks!
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The rear disc brake kit from trail gear is very nice. The rotors lol seem something comparable to my tundra. Also they sell rebuild kit per side the rear axle also very useful and worth money. Comes with every seal and bearing for the whole axle. You will need a press bit atleast for me the whole disassembly and assembly went pretty smooth. I did sandblast and paint the bearing pockets while I had seperated and empty
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Thiers a pic of the mounts in the truck. They are loose but all the bolts are in place. It doesn't look like I'll need the body lift after all which was a concern of mine from the beginning, I absolutely can not stand body lifts on any vehicle. I propped the motor forward with a 2x4. The angle of the bellhousing looks pretty good and is clear all the way around of my firewall. The motor however will be pretty tight to the hood. I may end up doing a hood scoop I would like to put the intercooler above the motor and leave as much room as I can for the radiator and electric fans. And time will tell if ill end up being able to run a oil cooler.
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On a side note. I pulled the dran plug off the tranny I got from the junkyard a while ago. First thing that came out was a couple ounces worth of clear water followed by a rustic color gear oil. Yall think its shot or I'm thinking about running it and flushing a couple gallons of gear oil through it as I drive it the first month and see what happens. I really do not wanna spend money on another trans or time and money on rebuilding this one
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Yesterday was a good day. All the tabs I welded to the frame I finally drilled and tapped those to hold the fuel and brake lines. The axel I cleaned up everything I didn't want on it and welded the bracket for the tee on the other side since I'm switch which side of the frame the brake line runs down. And just to make me feel better about it I welded it up a little guard to keep stuff from rubbing up the axel and potentially hurting the tee or hose connections on it


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yeah it looks great, lot of adjustment room on the mounts, and the bellhousing should fit in there nicely without the body lift... I don't want to go down the body lift road either.
clearance to hood does seem a bit close, but a custom hood scoop as you said could to the trick. top mount intercoolers never fair as well as others, I would suggest trying to use the factory sidemount somewhere as its pretty small, that is what my plan is although I have no idea on how to accomplish that one yet but there is a lot of space under the truck maybe in the fender area or something.

the trans I would just do a drain and refill until it just looks like fluid again. if it wasn't ran with the water in there it may be alright the fluid stays in the places it really needs to be. just get as much out as possible and hope for the best I would imagine.
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any updated on this? driving it around..?
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Sooooo sexay! Subscribededed! VERY interested in this swap! Great work and write up!
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lol No def not driving around it. Ive come o the point where im not taking anymore money out of the bank to keep building it. Ha Ive taking WAYYYYYYYYY more then I would of everexpected to get where it its at now. So Untill I sell my Landcruiser that I put in here a few pges ago or my short bus that im now trying to sell I don't plan on putting anymore money out for it. I have done a little bit with what I already had in the garage and still have a bit left I can do with what already been bought. I will put thatup next. Here's my bus anybody wants it $3K OBO.
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Size:  149.4 KB.... So first you will notice I pulled the motor back out. It was just a test fit I did a few weeks ago........Otherwise,originally for the Fuel cell I was going to trim it in a little bit u the floor out and drop it in to keep it as low as possible. But after way to much thought and finally realizing it had to go above the floor simply cause it would taking up pretty much the only spot my rear shocks can go this is where it ended up. it would of been in he same spot it is just 6inches lower that's all. So I got that mounted then from their I mounted the fuel filters and pump. Then spent a good hour trying to think where and how I was going to penetrate through the bed to get to my frame. And this is what I came up with. I think it came out pretty good. The fittings I used on the bed are actually firewall connections for I think it was 4gauge wire.


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