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Old 12-21-2011, 09:35 AM
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YAY, SAS time!!!

i don't think that's an 82/83 axle...it should have a gusset on the bottom long-side of the axle, like here:

whereas the pre-82 axles have no real gussets, and the 84/85 axles have the most gusseting from the factory.

either way, it's not like gusset kits don't exist
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Hmmm I dont know. Since I'm not in a hurry, I might just wait till I find something with some factory gussetting. Like I said, I don't want it to be a mind set, or something I need to worry about... I want to be able to drive the truck knowing I'm not worried about the axle bending.
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Yeah it's definitey a 79-81 axle. But is it still work 250 bucks...?
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79-80 no gusset
81-83 axles are the same gusset wise..mid gussett
84-85-gussett extends to spring mount..

Mak-read my post above about upgrading the disk-you can't do that on a 79-80 axle..I am not sure if it can be done going the IFS hub widening kit..
I would pass

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Yeah I'm gonna pass on it. No point in buying something I can't use brakes and have to worry about the gussets
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if you're in a rush it's worth 250. if not, just wait - they pop up all the time especially in our area with such a big toyota community in the Sierra's-region. i bet you could call up any toyota fab shop and they probably have 3-4 of them sitting around in their piles that you could buy from them. i know the guy that worked on my truck did and we talked SAS for a while but i don't think i'm gonna go that route with my truck until i have a piece of property and a shop to work on it myself...or if i win the lotto...
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ASCO manual hubs if stock means 79-80
And no gusset
Axle housing is fine I guess bit wheel hubs are useless.

Maybe for $100 and find 81+ wheel hubs.
Manual hubs themselves in decent shape worth $100-150

For $250, no.

I hate it when folks sell crap and don't know WTF they are talking about.

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Good clarification Brian, I figured you would stop by...
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i missed the gusset parts sorry for the bit of mis information, i also didnt realize the brakes could not be upgraded on those axles, thanks for the clear up
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Yeah im in no rush what so ever. I would've picked it up if it was really an 83 axle, but its not a heart breaker. Toyota solid axle and wagoneer axles pop up all over the place around the sacramento area.

Yeah if he told me like 100 bucks, come get it. i'd be down in a heart beat. I'd just swap newer knuckles/hubs. and call it good.

There's a fully built 85 axle on Craigslist right now for 1,700... lol 4.88 gears, locker, welded gussets, hi steer, and chormoly 30 spline axle shafts. still would rather buy one for cheap, and build one up in my garage.
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So i put off getting an axle, but then came across a 1989 FJ60 front axle complete hub to hub for 300 bucks... if the guy replies to me, I'm definitely gonna hop on it. I've been really looking for a wagoneer dana 44 or the FJ60 since they're both IFS width.

anyone have any objections to an FJ60 axle?
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Just make sure when looking for a dana 44, the advertised truck is really a true jeep wagoneer, and not those stupid xj cherokee wagoneer versions with the dana 30.
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Yeah. I can only use a 74-79 Wagoneer axle, i believe. Its somewhere in those years.

Im half tempted to hop on this fj60 axle though. only 300 bucks, and its complete
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Talked with the guy for the Fj60 axle... got him to 280 bucks but i seriously dont want to drive to santa rosa by today or tomorrow. I leave for LA the day after christmas, so i might just wait till im back and see if he still has it.
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Back from the dead!! I figured i'd revive this thread because i need some input on this subject. There's an axle i want to jump on for my truck because eventually it will be SASed!!

Originally Posted by dropzone
79-80 no gusset
81-83 axles are the same gusset wise..mid gussett
84-85-gussett extends to spring mount..

Mak-read my post above about upgrading the disk-you can't do that on a 79-80 axle..I am not sure if it can be done going the IFS hub widening kit..
I would pass
According to that^ these axles here are 81-83(top) and 84-85(bottom), right?

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Bump!!
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Yes.

I don't see why mak can't just swap the hubs out to the later model brakes lol, it's not that big of a deal.
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haha I already bought an FJ62 axle from an 1989 LC.
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86 pickup SAS

What year grand wagoner diffs should a guy look for to swap into an 86 pickup
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