Dual twin stick ?
 

I have everything i need to do my dual t-case conv. My question is....can I put 2 dual twin stick in it.....will it fit ?

2 twin sticks?

Why would you do that, its not possible. Only the rear you can put twin sticks in, the front case just has one function hi/lo.

I would suggest doing some research of what a dual case does first before you hurt yourself. That will help you determine if you can use two twin sticks.

If you're asking this question you don't understand what a twin stick does. You need to do some more homework.

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Do you mean, dual twin sticks as in having triple cases and the rear two cases twin sticked? You can only have a twin stick in the rear. The purpose of a twin stick is to be able to select 2wd and 4wd independently of low and high range so you have the option of 2 low low. The front cases are only for choosing low or high no matter how many you have.

Let us know how that twin sticked front case works out for you :chair:

You can mount a twin stick on the front case, but only one of the shift levers will be functional.

Sound like there are more SMART AS_'S then people that want to give helpfull advise.......hope ya'll do need help on the trail.

Having that attitude won't get you any help. Just ignore the people posting stuff you don't like and just be thankful for the help you did receive. Your question was answered, but when you ask a question that normally when you're at the point of putting twin sticks in you should know, people will give ya a hard time :booty: :D

Judging by the questions you are asking, you will definitely be the one needing help on the trail. You should watch your attitude because you will likely be the one not getting it.

Lighten up Frances. :roll:

Smart asses that know what a twin stick is and and how it functions. :hillbill:

http://www.trail-gear.com/shifter-dual.html

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Ok Wabbit here's a newb to dual cases question, without a twin stick will I have access to 2low with dual cases by putting the front case into low and having the rear in 2hi? Or would that mess something up? Obviously I couldn't have 2 low low...

Twin sticks and dual cases are 2 different things..... you can have Lo/lo... thats the beauty of dual... COMPOUND LOW!

you can also have twin stick with only 1 tcase...

correct me if i'm wrong but... _without_ the twin sticks but dual cases you have have

2wd hi
lo /hi
hi /lo
lo/lo


the twin stick allows you to disengage your front or rear.. to allow for front or rear digs.

Oh I know they're totally different, I'm about to put my dual case setup together here and was just wondering if it was ok to run the first case in low (2.28:1) while having the rear case in high 2wd? Or would that mess something up with crazy RPM's or somethin in the rear case?

That is indeed 2WD low range (2.28:1), I use mine all the time. It is no different than the speed/RPM you get in normal 4WD low range, 30-35 MPH is top speed.

Awesome thanks!

When you ask "dumb-ass" questions you get "smart-ass" answers.

So....the front single stick is for HI-LO
the second "drivers side" stick is for 2wd-4wd
the third "pass side" stick is for ?

HI-LO in the second (rear) case.

Dual cases with a twin stick

Front case - one stick - H N L

Rear case - twin stick - right side - 2WD 4WD ; left side H N L

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Ya Andrew your fine... just think of the front case as a reduction unit only. 2wd Lo I guess. Even if your hubs are in when you put it in low your still not in 4wd. I use mine all the time for like backing in the driveway and stuff. A big no no with dual cases though is to push in your clutch and let your truck roll fast down a hill with it in low low. The front shaft is still spinning at the output and stuff starts moving way too fast inside the case. I've heard of two different having their pressure plate explode from spinning too fast doing that.

A twin stick in the rear is particularly helpful if you don't have a selectable locker up front. If you need to turn real sharp in the rocks you can just kick it out of 4wd for a minute so you can actually steer yet keep your reduction. I wish I had one but doing the linkage with my center console would be a nightmare. Just the standard stick took us a whole day to get it to work coming up through the change holder where I have it.

Sweet thanks for the heads up Joey. It'll be nice havin 2low for driving up steep roads up in the mountains where I like to go camping where unless I'm in first gear I bog down. I don't think I'll have a front locker for a while cause I don't wanna put any more money into the IFS cause it's just gunna get chopped off eventually, I'm tryin to do stuff to my truck that I can still use after I SAS it. I may weld the front for a cheap locker, but I need to look into that some more...

If you leave the hubs unlocked, and put the truck in 4lo, you will essentially have 2 lo. There is almost no point in having twin sticks on a Toyota case.

And don't weld the front, unless you plan on hydro assist or full hydraulic steering. And longs. And a myriad of other upgrades.

DC..

Some of us are fatter than others and don't want to get in/out to lock and unlock the hubs.. That is where Twin sticks come in handy.. lol

But what is the logical purpose?! UNless you are hardcore rock crawling, there really isn't a need to NOT be in 2Low 4x4 hubs locked. Unless you have a spool but really, who drives on FS roads in 2lo with a spool?

Besides, twin sticks don't eliminate the need to lock/unlock the hubs, your hubs would still be locked, the transfer case just won't be engaged.

I've been reading up on it and have decided against it, it was just a quick though. Oh and I don't think they make Longfield CV's or am I missing something....:think: :hillbll:

Exactly! Rock crawling, that's what we do here in Nor Cal!

I got a twin stick in the rear case. Sometimes it has been handy to run the tight turns in 2wd even with the front hubs locked and auto locker. It make some turns a little easier but my t-case doesn't always kick out of 4wd to 2wd as easy as it sounds so thats a PITA. Is it worth it??? Sometimes its cool/useful and other times its just one more thing to remember.

LOL I had a guy one time come up to the driver window and ask if my 4wd was working. oops.