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Old 06-26-2006, 01:35 PM
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water pump metal gasket with seal packing

Hey guys,

I just bought a new water pump for V6 3.0L and I'm about to replace the timing belt. Now my question is do I still need to put some FIPG or RTV around the seal packing that is already incorporated in the metal gasket that came with the new OEM water pump?

I'm about to do this task this coming 4th of July week end. I did a lot of searched in here and a lot of reading. My eyes are getting read and tired.

I appreciate any info. Thanks.
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The mighty FSM say's

WATER PUMP

Installation
1) Apply sealant on water pump sealing area. Install water
pump. Install and tighten bolts to specification. See Fig. 22.
2) Install thermostat with jiggle pin facing upward (toward
top of engine). Using NEW gasket, install coolant inlet. Install and
tighten nuts to specification. See TORQUE SPECIFICATIONS. To install
remaining components, reverse removal procedure. Fill cooling system.
Fig. 22: Installing Water Pump Bolts
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Old 06-26-2006, 03:56 PM
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if the waterpump has the metal gasket it is a redesigned pump and no longer requires the fipg or sealer. just clean the old sealer from the block and install.
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Originally posted by mr toytech if the waterpump has the metal gasket it is a redesigned pump and no longer requires the fipg or sealer. just clean the old sealer from the block and install.
Thanks mr toytech, that is what I'm thinking since the metal gasket has the seal, fipg or rtv no longer required. Are you a toy mechanic by chance? Thanks for your info.
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FIPG is a small insurance on a part that can do alot of damge to your motor.
Do you really want to pull all that stuff back apart to repair a leak ?
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i no longer use RTV on gaskets, i've switched to permatex high tack sealer. used it on my water pumps, timing covers and everything(well, except head gaskets) and no leaks. easy to get off if you ever have to get back in there, too.

if RTV or FIPG gets loose it can cause major headaches...
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I use Permatex The Right Stuff.
I suppose it's pretty similar to the FIPG.
I've never had a problem with it leaking, where other gaskets, sealers, etc have leaked.
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I have in my hand is a Permatex Ultra Black Hi-Temp RTV Silicone Gasket Maker, is this good enough? Can I use this in addition to the seal that was already built in to the metal gasket that came with the new water pump? I have used a lot of red Toy FIPG on transmission pan, but not on water pump.

I don't know maybe I have to put a small beads around the seal to ensure no leakage.
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Originally Posted by 4x4CPOSEADOG
I have in my hand is a Permatex Ultra Black Hi-Temp RTV Silicone Gasket Maker, is this good enough? Can I use this in addition to the seal that was already built in to the metal gasket that came with the new water pump? .....

I don't know maybe I have to put a small beads around the seal to ensure no leakage.
I have the same question. My new toyota waterpump has the same metal gasket with built in seal, should I go ahead and put a small bead around the seal. I also have the same permatex as above.
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