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dakotawho 10-30-2011 02:20 PM

Trouble Starting
 
I have a 22r toyota 1986 or 87 can't quite remember off top of my head. But when i first start the truck up it is a pain and often needs to be cranked over multiple times. After the first intial start-up the truck will start first try. What could be wrong?
Thanks

Buck87 10-30-2011 03:59 PM

Carburated I assume?

dakotawho 10-30-2011 04:02 PM

yes sir.

Buck87 10-30-2011 04:17 PM

I was going to suggest a fuel pressure issue, but since you have a carb I dont know. When having starting issues always make sure that you cover the basics first. Plugs. timing, rotor, cap, plugs, plug wires. If those are ok then maybe someone with more carb knowledge can comment. Does the truck start poorly only when it is cold? How is your gas mileage holding up?

dakotawho 10-30-2011 04:45 PM

The carb was worked on recently, seemed to not help besides fixing my idle issue. Motor was rebuilt a while back.2003 ish

Buck87 10-31-2011 08:12 AM

Last tune up?

swampfox 10-31-2011 09:10 AM

Does it happen each time it sets over night ,and gets worst if it sets for few days ? If so the carb is losing fuel out of the bowl. check the fuel level on site glass when you park it ,then check it again before starting. If it is a lot lower it is time for a rebuild. I tried to fix mine with out a kit and it was a waist of time. My truck ran fine except for the first start up in the mourning.

Buck87 10-31-2011 10:19 AM

:good:

That is why I wanted to confirm that he had a carburetor, and that the condition is not just a cold start condition. I have seen the same condition that you described on fuel injection when the fuel line is losing pressure over night.

dakotawho 11-02-2011 05:58 AM

last tune up was probably the rebuild, so a long time ago, i had the carb adjusted last weekend, has been starting pretty good in the mornings since

Buck87 11-02-2011 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by dakotawho (Post 51812743)
last tune up was probably the rebuild, so a long time ago, i had the carb adjusted last weekend, has been starting pretty good in the mornings since

8 years wow that is a very long time to go on a tune up! I used to go about every 10k miles or 1 year when I drove cars with carburetors, but now I have more modern vehicles so I do a tune up every 2 years when the smog inspection is due. I believe that letting a tune up go over 2 years, which for the average driver is about 20k miles, is way too long. After 8 years you are lucky that your truck starts at all. Good thing you have a Toyota. And while you are at it make sure to have the valves adjusted. The valve adjustment will save you a $1000.00 head job down the road and your gas mileage, and performance should improve. Make the tune up a priority before you get stranded and you have to pay for a tow truck.
:king:

Buck87 11-02-2011 06:35 AM

Tune ups are an easy way to learn about your car. If you live near San Jose bring it by and we can do it together.

dakotawho 11-02-2011 06:52 AM

aha i'd love to come by....but im in Virginia:d

Buck87 11-02-2011 07:09 AM

Say hi to my son who is stationed in Norfolk.

recowl105 11-02-2011 07:15 AM

Have you pulled the plugs yet? try doing that and seeing what color they are it can tell alot about what going on.

Buck87 11-02-2011 07:45 AM

^^^ Good call new guy. Welcome to Yota Tech.

dakotawho 11-02-2011 09:10 AM

My problem.is I don't know much about vehicles:d slowly learning more and more all the time.

smogman 11-02-2011 12:34 PM

I'm not sure why everyone thinks a tune up fixes thinks but it does not. modern cars don't need tune up for 100k.

Your problem is related to 1 of 2 things, fuel or spark. in the morning before you start the truck spray carb cleaner in the carb. only about 1 second. if it fires right up, it's fuel. same slow start it's spark.

The correct proceedure for a carburated car start is to pump the throttle 1-2 times then crank it.

Buck87 11-02-2011 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by smogman (Post 51812932)
I'm not sure why everyone thinks a tune up fixes thinks but it does not. modern cars don't need tune up for 100k.

Your problem is related to 1 of 2 things, fuel or spark. in the morning before you start the truck spray carb cleaner in the carb. only about 1 second. if it fires right up, it's fuel. same slow start it's spark.

The correct proceedure for a carburated car start is to pump the throttle 1-2 times then crank it.

Everything that smogman wrote is true. Thing is that a 22r is not a modern engine and my Chilton manual recommends doing a tuned up every "15000 miles or twelve months which ever comes first. This interval should be halved if the truck is operated under severe conditions, such as trailer towing ,prolonged idling, continual stop and start driving, or if starting or running problems are noticed."
Do the carb cleaner test and do a tune up.

dakotawho 11-03-2011 05:59 AM

Well i haven't got to putting stuff in the carb yet, but this morning it acted like it was on, i quit turning the key, and it was off. Then it was hard to start after that and i had to use the clutch safety cancel button(my clutch is about shot).

Buck87 11-03-2011 07:41 AM

When you do the carb cleaner test report back to us. We care.:D


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